Re: [aur-general] TU membership application

2019-09-01 Thread Matthew Sexton via aur-general
On Sunday, September 1, 2019 9:39:37 AM EDT Xyne wrote:

> The lackadaisical approach to sponsorship is one of the main reasons that
> we've moved to a system with two sponsors. Maybe I missed the joke, but
> having nothing against someone and wanting to see a particular package in
> community is not a good enough reason to sponsor someone. A TU application
> may not be a matter of life and death but the process should be taken
> somewhat seriously nevertheless given how many people could be potentially
> impacted if a malicious candidate is accepted. 

>  We need to agree to set the bar a little higher.

That kinda speaks to the 'trust' in 'Trusted User'. It's not just "Oh hey, I 
want to contribute, give me the keys to the kingdom". You need to be vetted 
and checked out. Not just because of the potential for bad actors, but I think 
you also need to show you're actually capable of doing the job being asked of 
you. Sponsoring a TU applicant that you're friendly with, but has no real 
experience in packaging or any sort of development background, does a 
disservice to the community. It's not just, "Does the sponsor Trust this 
person" But "Can the community Trust this person?" I'm not saying that this is 
the case for this application, but that's the reason, I feel, why the process 
is involved as it is. Heck, it could be more intensive and I'd still say 
"Yeah, that's appropriate."

Like Xyne said, not commenting on the TU application at all. Just responding 
with my thoughts to his comments.



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Re: [aur-general] TU membership application

2019-09-01 Thread Xyne
On 2019-08-19 16:49 +0300
Sergej Pupykin wrote:

>Giancarlo Razzolini via aur-general wrote:
>>
>> Having nothing against is not the same as actively sponsoring it. All
>> this discussion is kind of pointless until we hear from both sponsors
>> telling us they actively sponsor Jean's application. Then the discussion
>> period can begin.   
>
>
>Ok, I am not sure about "actively" :) but I want to see parsedmarc
>package bundle in community. As well as ghidra and coturn (which is
>already in community), so I sponsor him.

Sponsorship is supposed to be an active advocacy of the applicant based on the
sponsor's evaluation of the applicant's skills and trustworthiness. It should
be based on a strong positive opinion of the applicant and the sponsor
essentially vouches for the applicant by sponsoring them.

The lackadaisical approach to sponsorship is one of the main reasons that we've
moved to a system with two sponsors. Maybe I missed the joke, but having
nothing against someone and wanting to see a particular package in community is
not a good enough reason to sponsor someone. A TU application may not be a
matter of life and death but the process should be taken somewhat seriously
nevertheless given how many people could be potentially impacted if a malicious
candidate is accepted. If TUs start sponsoring anyone who asks based on these
latter criteria, the system is broken. Especially when we have candidates who
just ask different TUs until they get two to agree. We need to agree to set the
bar a little higher.

I am only reacting to the apparent indifference of sponsorship here, which is
independent of Jean Lucas' application. The latter will be discussed if and
when Alexander confirms his sponsorship.

Regards,
Xyne


Re: [aur-general] Retiring my account, orphaning some packages.

2019-09-01 Thread Aniket Pradhan
Thanks for taking over these packages. :D
I have transferred the ownership, and you are now the sole maintainer
for these packages. However, for craft-git @kiedtl will also be
co-maintaining, as he was doing with me earlier.

> * python-gitchangelog
> * craft-git

Take good care of them. :)

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Aniket Pradhan
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ECE Undergrad | IIIT Delhi
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