Re: [aur-general] TU membership application

[Balló György via aur-general]

2019. 08.  16, péntek keltezéssel 15.19-kor Jean Lucas via aur-general
ezt írta:
> If I were accepted to become a TU, I'd like to adopt and move the
> following packages (all having over 10 votes in the AUR) from the AUR
> into [community]:
> 
> anydesk, downgrade, exercism, flutter, godot, itch, mattermost-
> desktop,
> nvm, reaper, spotify, teamviewer, thermald, unity-editor, and
> unityhub,
> for starters!

anydesk, reaper, spotify, teamviewer, unity-editor and unityhub are
proprietary software with restrictive license. I don't think that you
can legally distribute them.

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Re: [aur-general] TU (re-)Application

[Balló György via aur-general]

2018. 02. 12, 03.52, Brad Fanella via aur-general 
ezt írta:
> Yes I do. I've just gone ahead and updated my bug tracker account to
> reflect this, thank you.

Thanks! :) Then I think the next step is to create a new account on
AUR, add your PGP fingerprint to your aurweb profile, and post a PGP-
signed message to this mailing list.

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Re: [aur-general] TU (re-)Application

[Balló György via aur-general]

2018. 02. 12, 01.28, Brad Fanella via aur-general:
> I'm not sure that would clear up doubts about malicious intent.

Do you still have access to your bug tracker account? Can you update
your email address here?
https://bugs.archlinux.org/user/7923

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Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Clarify the process for Special Removal of an inactive TU

[Balló György via aur-general]

> Does anyone have any last-minute proposals to modify the wording for
> grammar etc. in the event that this is accepted?

Sounds good for me. But how can we check if a TU modify a user account
or do anything other than resolving package requests (which is tracked
on aur-requests mailing list)? Currently these actions are untracked on
aurweb, so we don't really know the last action. I think we need a
'last privileged action' field or 'privileged action log' or something
similar to be implemented in aurweb, so any TU could easily check if
the condition met or not.

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Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: speps

[Balló György via aur-general]

On 18.01.2018 00.18, Thorsten Toepper via aur-general wrote:
> Therefore the second requirement, to NOT do any special action on the
> AUR requiring TU privileges is not fulfilled, as participating in
> votes is exactly one of these TU privileges.

This is unclear in the bylaws. I assumed that AUR is the repository
where the user-contributed packages are stored. Therefore the actions
that require AUR privileges are: disown/merge/delete a package. These
actions are tracked on the aur-requests mailing list only if a request
was filed before the action, so we don't really know the last
privileged action of a TU. I think it should be implemented within the
AUR web interface.

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Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: speps

[Balló György via aur-general]

The voting is over. Results:

Yes: 33
No: 5
Abstain: 5

This means that speps is no longer a Trusted User.

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Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: faidoc

[Balló György via aur-general]

The voting is over. Results:

Yes: 31
No: 7
Abstain: 4

This means that faidoc is no longer a Trusted User.

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Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: faidoc

[Balló György via aur-general]

The discussion period is over, let's start the vote:
https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=101

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Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: speps

[Balló György via aur-general]

The discussion period is over, let's start the vote:
https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=100

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[aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: speps

[Balló György via aur-general]

According to the Trusted User Bylaws[1], we have to vote about the
removal of an inactive TU, speps. So I'm starting a discussion period
of 3 days.

1. His last commit in the [community] repository: 2017-01-03
2. He doesn't maintain any packages in AUR.
3. His last message to aur-general mailing list: 2014-03-02
4. Most of his packages were adopted by dvzrv.

speps, thank you for your work on making Arch Linux better. I hope that
once we'll see you again!

[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html#_special_remov
al_of_an_inactive_tu

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[aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: faidoc

[Balló György via aur-general]

According to the Trusted User Bylaws[1], we have to vote about the
removal of an inactive TU, Alexandre Filgueira (faidoc). So I'm
starting a discussion period of 3 days.

1. His last commit in the [community] repository: 2017-01-08
2. He doesn't maintain any packages in AUR.
3. His last message to aur-general mailing list: 2016-03-05
4. Most of his packages were adopted by eschwartz.

Alexandre, thank you for your work on making Arch Linux better. I hope
that once we'll see you again!

[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html#_special_remov
al_of_an_inactive_tu

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Re: [aur-general] Trusted User application

[Balló György via aur-general]

2016. 07.  28, csütörtök keltezéssel 12.13-kor Balló György ezt írta:
> 2016. 07.  23, szombat keltezéssel 10.45-kor Balló György ezt írta:
> > 
> > 2016. 07.  23, szombat keltezéssel 13.39-kor Nicola Squartini via
> > aur-
> > general ezt írta:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > My name is Nicola Squartini, long time Arch Linux user and
> > > enthusiast. I would like to become a Trusted User and György
> > > Balló offered to sponsor my application.
> > 
> > I confirm my sponsorship. The Atom editor and the Electron
> > application
> > framework are very popular nowadays, definitely we want to see them
> > in
> > our repositories. It's not easy to build them entirely from
> > sources,
> > but Nicola did a great job.
> > 
> > Lets start the discussion period of 5 days now.
> 
> The discussion period is over, and the voting period starts.
> TUs, please vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=86

The voting period is over. The results:

Yes: 27
No: 4
Abstain: 2

Congratulation! Nicola, you become a Trusted User now. :)

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Re: [aur-general] Trusted User application

[Balló György via aur-general]

2016. 07.  23, szombat keltezéssel 10.45-kor Balló György ezt írta:
> 2016. 07.  23, szombat keltezéssel 13.39-kor Nicola Squartini via
> aur-
> general ezt írta:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > My name is Nicola Squartini, long time Arch Linux user and
> > enthusiast. I would like to become a Trusted User and György
> > Balló offered to sponsor my application.
> 
> I confirm my sponsorship. The Atom editor and the Electron
> application
> framework are very popular nowadays, definitely we want to see them
> in
> our repositories. It's not easy to build them entirely from sources,
> but Nicola did a great job.
> 
> Lets start the discussion period of 5 days now.

The discussion period is over, and the voting period starts.
TUs, please vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=86

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Re: [aur-general] Trusted User application

[Balló György via aur-general]

2016. 07.  23, szombat keltezéssel 13.39-kor Nicola Squartini via aur-
general ezt írta:
> Hi,
> 
> My name is Nicola Squartini, long time Arch Linux user and
> enthusiast. I would like to become a Trusted User and György
> Balló offered to sponsor my application.

I confirm my sponsorship. The Atom editor and the Electron application
framework are very popular nowadays, definitely we want to see them in
our repositories. It's not easy to build them entirely from sources,
but Nicola did a great job.

Lets start the discussion period of 5 days now.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Dustin Falgout

[Balló György]

2016-03-02 23:44 GMT+01:00 Dustin Falgout :

> > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 21:19:08 +0100> From: ballog...@gmail.com
> > BTW, it would be nice if you could adopt some more orphan packages in the
> > community repository.
>
> Sure, I could do that. Do you have any particular packages in mind that I
> should consider first?
> Best Regards,Dustin


We have a lot of orphans, you can choose any of them:
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?repo=Community=orphan

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Dustin Falgout

[Balló György]

2016-03-02 20:21 GMT+01:00 Dustin Falgout :

> If you are wondering why I didn't use the short version of the commit hash
> at the end of the pkgver, well that's simply a personal preference of mine
> (to use revision numbers instead). I hope that helps clear up any confusion
> as to why I chose to do it the way that I did.
>

If you don't specify tag or commit hash at the end of the git source, then
you should use the -git suffix. Users expect if the package has no -git
suffix, then it's a working static version tested by the maintainer, and
not some experimental code from git HEAD.

BTW, it would be nice if you could adopt some more orphan packages in the
community repository.

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Re: [aur-general] ArchLinux TU Application: Fabio Castelli (Muflone)

[Balló György]

The vote is over and the results are:

Yes: 23
No: 2
Abstain: 5

Fabio, you became a TU! Welcome to the team!

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Re: [aur-general] ArchLinux TU Application: Fabio Castelli (Muflone)

[Balló György]

2014. 07. 31, csütörtök keltezéssel 05.25-kor Balló György ezt írta:
 2014. 07. 31, csütörtök keltezéssel 01.06-kor Muflone ezt írta:
  Hi everyone
  
  My name's Fabio Castelli (aka Muflone) from Italy and I wish to apply to
  become a TU for ArchLinux to maintain some packages in the community
  repository. My TU sponsor is György Balló.
  
  I actually work as a software developer in a local private company and I
  use GNU/Linux since the 1998, having started with Slackware 2.0.
  Many years have passed through Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu and finally
  ArchLinux that actually I use daily at home and at my job place since a
  couple of years. Debian is still often used for software packaging, to
  deploy services in my network and for less experienced colleagues that
  needs some GNU/Linux environment in my job place.
  
  My experience in development is long term, starting in '80s with C=64
  Basic, actually I work daily in Python (under Windows, GNU/Linux and
  i5/OS, both desktop, server and web platforms), Delphi and VB (under
  Windows), RPG/400 and CL (under i5/OS) and many other things which I use
  less often, like C or J2EE.
  
  My open source contributions are a really long list but let's try to not
  be boring:
  
  - maintainer for over 160 packages in the AUR, most of them updated often:
  https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?SeB=mK=Muflone
  https://github.com/muflone/pkgbuilds/
  
  - maintainer for some Debian packages:
  https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=mufl...@vbsimple.net
  https://alioth.debian.org/projects/python-apps/
  
  - author of various open source softwares:
  http://www.muflone.com/english.html
  https://github.com/muflone/
  https://code.google.com/u/102825094329389897213/
  https://www.openhub.net/accounts/Muflone
  
  - written hundreds of articles for an Italian website around VB6
  development through the 1998 and 2004: http://www.vbsimple.net/
  
  - written hundreds of articles for an Italian website around Ubuntu
  through the 2009 and the 2011: http://ubuntrucchi.wordpress.com/
  
  - support in the Italian Ubuntu forum, I was the second most active
  member of the forum through the 2009 and the 2012:
  http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=73229
  
  - support and founder of LQH (Linux Quality Help), an Italian GNU/Linux
  forum where normal users could ask their questions and only the experts
  group could offer support, resulting in higher quality service, ran only
  from highly experienced users through the 2009 and the 2012:
  https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.linuxqualityhelp.it/supporto
  
  - written tenth of Italian video guides around PyGTK development through
  the 2008 and the 2010: http://pygtk.wordpress.com/
  
  - written a couple of articles around GNOME Shell in the 2011:
  http://gnomeshell.wordpress.com/
  
  - could continue but better stopping here.. too boring. I'm sorry!
  
  ArchLinux is actually my favorite GNU/Linux distributions and I think I
  could do a lot of work in enhancing this great distribution.
  What I love about ArchLinux is the perfect control it gives to me and it
  needs from me.
  
  Every time I need some software, I package it and then I publish it
  under AUR.
  I try to apply an old Microsoft rule: Never ever write the same thing
  twice, so if the software resulted useful to me then it could be useful
  for other users and AUR is a perfect place where to find stuff.
  
  There are a lot of packages that I wish to move in the community
  repository: hfsprogs, kompozer, sweethome3d, gmtp, arista,
  spyder/spyder3, sbackup, gwakeonlan, gespeaker, remmina-plugin-*,
  python-ptrace.
  
  There are also packages maintained from other users that I wish to see
  in community repository: dex2jar, dmg2img, firefox-theme-adwaita and
  thunderbird-theme-adwaita, gigolo, gscan2pdf, httrack, linkchecker,
  loggedfs, netactview, pacmanlogviewer, parallel-python, pyrenamer.
  
  I read daily the AUR general and AUR requests mailing lists but I never
  participate in the discussions, after many years of discussions in other
  ML and forums I lost the pleasure in writing stuff inside the communities.
  The same applies to IRC, too much time spent in helping others (I was
  also HelpOp in #irchelp) forced me to away even from IRC.
  
  My job coincided with my favorite hobby so, apart my personal projects
  (see GitHub) I love reading heavy books (technical, development,
  sysadmin, networking but also theater or classic novels) and watching
  films when the TV is not owned by my gf.
  
  Thank you for reading up to here.
  Best regards
  
  Fabio Castelli / Muflone
  
  
  
 
 I'm confirming my sponsorship. I think that Fabio has great experience,
 and has excellent packages in AUR.
 
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The discussion period is over, and the voting period is started now.
Please vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=77

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[aur-general] Drop gnome-settings-daemon-updates from [community]

[Balló György]

Hi,

I'm going to drop gnome-settings-daemon-updates package from the
[community] repository, because it's broken (randomly hangs while
checking for updates on login), and will be dropped in the next
version of gnome-settings-daemon anyway.

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Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

[Balló György]

2014/1/22 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca:
 On 2014-01-21 02:31 -0600
 Doug Newgard wrote:

 Most of the packages get better over time and in my case, it's not
 possible to have 140 packages in perfect state at once. So I can perfectly
 update or fix 4 packages/day (sometimes more if I automatically scan for 
 new releases
 with pkgcheck :)), but some require community feedback/discussion,
 some need upstream fixes or further time for debugging.
 For the most part, the packages were in a much worse state than today.
 In my opinion the AUR is something like a incubator for new,
 experimental or less popular packages. If I havent put an early
 unfinished version of Gitlab [1] into the AUR, I wouldn't have been able
 to get that many constructive feedback and at the same time write an
 instruction at the wiki [2]. I guess the diversity is the reason, why the 
 AUR is
 such a popular feature of ArchLinux. Of course there are more stable, less
 experimental packages which I want to see in the community repository.

 [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gitlab/
 [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gitlab

Ok, so let's look at just that one.

What are Unconfirmed makedeps? Are they makedeps or aren't they?

You set the backup array based on what is installed at build time, which has
little to do with what is installed at install/run time. This works (somewhat)
in the AUR but not at all in binary repos. Not only that, but you then set a 
new
backup array right after it making the whole thing moot.

You pull a bunch of files directly from master of a git repo. Very fragile.

Your quoting of paths containing variables is very inconsistent, some are 
quoted
then not quoted in the next line.

Your use of curly braces is inconsistent.

Sometimes you use mv, sometimes cp, and sometimes install. Why?

Again, you're installing things based on what is installed at build time.

That's from a cursory reading of your given example, without looking into it 
in
detail or looking at the install file at all. You see what I mean? Many TUs 
have
as many or more packages than you're talking about, and they're all expected 
to
be in good shape.

 I'm randomly scanning your AUR packages and so far I keep seeing things that I
 don't like just as the previous posters have mentioned (missing package
 functions, outdated PKGBUILD templates, lack of quotes, cd'ing into the 
 SRCDEST
 directory (why?), etc.).

 There are some nice PKGBUILDs there but so far the majority of what I have 
 seen
 has been of poor quality. Most of us (the TUs) probably have at least one or 
 two
 sub-standard PKGBUILDs lying around waiting to get flagged and updated, but
 overall there should be consistent quality.

 You should have made an effort to correct at least the trivial PKGBUILDs prior
 to submitting your application. You should also have addressed the
 flagged packages (as you allegedly agreed you would with your sponsor).

 I don't want to discourage you from further contribution but I do not think
 that you are ready to be a TU. You should take some time to address the issues
 raised in this thread and then spend at least a few more months maintaining
 your packages. Orphan some if you cannot adequately manage all of them. 
 Quality
 counts for far more than quantity.

 Regards,
 Xyne

I agree with Xyne. You have to learn some more things and clean up
your packages before you are ready.

I commented some of your packages in AUR. E.g. libzrtp, zfone and
zfoned install files into the /usr/local directory, which is forbidden
by a package.

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Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

[Balló György]

The vote is over and the results are:

Yes: 26
No: 2
Abstain: 1

This means that Martin is now a TU!

Martin, welcome to the team, and happy holidays! :)

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Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

[Balló György]

2013/12/23 Dustin Falgout dus...@falgout.us:
 On 12/22/2013 03:15 PM, Ike Devolder wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 08:12:10PM +0100, Balló György wrote:
 Sad news. You did a great job on maintaining PackageKit's alpm backend
 in the recent years. Thanks for your work, and good luck!

 If nobody step up porting the alpm backend to PackageKit version 0.8
 (huge work!), I'll drop the following packages from the [community]
 repository in the next days:
 - apper
 - gnome-settings-daemon-updates
 - gnome-packagekit
 - packagekit
 - packagekit-qt2
 - python2-packagekit

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 Why the rush to drop these packages ?
 Currently it is working, when none of the TU/DEV are willing/able to
 continue the development of the alpm backend for packagekit and at some
 point things break, then it would be a good time to drop those packages
 from community.

 I didnt see this message before but wanted to add that I agree. The 0.7x
 branch of packagekit is still supported upstream so there is no need to
 hastly drop the packages. Of course thats only my opinion, it's
 obviously up to you guys as TU's.

 Regards,

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 E-Mail: dus...@falgout.us mailto:dus...@falgout.us
 Google/Skype: dustinfalgout
 IRC Chat: #antergos http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=antergosuio=d4

 http://antergos.com/

Good to hear that you'll work on this, so we can keep the packages.
It's an important task, because the latest version of Apper and GNOME
Software depend on the 0.8 branch now.

Ike, then go ahead, and adopt these packages.

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Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

[Balló György]

Sad news. You did a great job on maintaining PackageKit's alpm backend
in the recent years. Thanks for your work, and good luck!

If nobody step up porting the alpm backend to PackageKit version 0.8
(huge work!), I'll drop the following packages from the [community]
repository in the next days:
- apper
- gnome-settings-daemon-updates
- gnome-packagekit
- packagekit
- packagekit-qt2
- python2-packagekit

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Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

[Balló György]

2013/12/15 Martin Wimpress martin+a...@flexion.org:
 Hi,

 On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 02:16 +0100, Balló György wrote:

 I'm confirming my sponsorship. I think that the MATE desktop environment
 will be a great addition for Arch Linux, and Martin will be a great
 addition for the team. :)

 A discussion period of 5 days has been started now.

 I've updated the MATE packages in the AUR and refreshed the builds in
 the unofficial MATE package repository based on the feedback provided
 here and  comments in the AUR. I've also updated my other non-MATE
 packages in the AUR based on the feedback I've had from TUs.

 Is there anything else I should be doing during this discussion period?

It's fine. Nothing else needed now.


The discussion period is over, and the voting period is started now.
Please vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=73

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Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

[Balló György]

2013. 12. 10, kedd keltezéssel 18.27-kor Martin Wimpress ezt írta:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to submit my application to become a Trusted User. I've been
 sponsored by Balló György (aka City-busz). You can find my public key
 here:
 
   *
 http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x654B877A0864983E
 
 I'm a forty something information technology professional and Linux
 enthusiast. I live in Hampshire, England, with my wife and daughter. I
 have some grey hair, a beer belly and I'm a killer systems
 administrator.
 
 I'd like to join the team because I'd really like to bring MATE to the
 official Arch Linux [community] repository. I've been a member of the
 MATE team for some months now and in that time I've:
 
   * Become the principle Arch Linux package maintainer
   * Got MATE 1.6 stable on Arch Linux
   * Created a new build script to automate package builds
   * Created new build hosts to build MATE packages for i686 and x86_64
   * Created new build hosts to build MATE packages for armv6h and armv7h
   * Signed the unofficial MATE package repositories
   * Been given root shell accounts on all the MATE infrastructure
 servers
   * Created a new website for the MATE project (http://mate-desktop.org)
   * Become a MATE Forum moderator and administrator 
   * Taken ownership of every MATE package in the AUR
   * Started MATE 1.7 packaging for Arch Linux
   * Gone on many bug hunting expeditions
 
 Here are all the relevant links regarding my work with the MATE team.
 
   * http://mate-desktop.org
   *
 http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2013-11-16-mate-1.6-packages-for-arch-linux/
   * https://github.com/mate-desktop/archlinux-packages
   * https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop.org
   * http://forums.mate-desktop.org/viewforum.php?f=4
   * http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/archlinux_custom_repo
   * http://repo.mate-desktop.org/archlinux/
 
 Here's some additional background about myself. I've been running Linux
 distributions since 1995, I've transitioned through Slackware, Redhat,
 Crux, Debian/Ubuntu and settled on Arch Linux nearly 2 years ago. I dev
 using Shell, Python, PHP, SQL, HTML/CSS and know enough C/C++ to bug
 hunt. I started using CVS in the late 1990s and moved to Subversion then
 Bazaar and now Git. 
 
 Some examples of my personal projects.
 
   * https://github.com/flexiondotorg/ArchInstaller
   * https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6
   * https://github.com/flexiondotorg/nullserv
 
 By day I work for Flight Data Services. I'm the technical lead and
 created the business plan that led to us Open Sourcing most of our
 technologies.
 
   * https://github.com/FlightDataServices
   * http://www.flightdatacommunity.com/
 
 Most of my contribution to Arch Linux has been through the AUR and
 you'll find me lurking in #archlinux@freenode. I contributed my first
 package to the AUR on the first week I started using Arch Linux. Since
 then I've adopted a few packages and added a selection of my own.
 
   * https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?SeB=mK=flexiondotorg
 
 In addition to MATE I'd be interested in migrating some of my other
 packages to [community], for example:
 
   * https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bzr-fastimport/
   * https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/finalterm-git/   (when stable)
   * https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/lib32-nss-mdns/
   * https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/lib32-xulrunner/
   * https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/libaacs/
   * https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nullmailer/
 
 I've contributed to countless Open Source projects over the years and I
 am a member of my local LUG. When I'm not geeking out I play with my
 daughter and go running. Like all great Open Source contributors I scuba
 dive ;-)
 
 Oh yeah, I love Arch Linux.


I'm confirming my sponsorship. I think that the MATE desktop environment
will be a great addition for Arch Linux, and Martin will be a great
addition for the team. :)

A discussion period of 5 days has been started now.

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[aur-general] Dropping Avant Window Navigator

[Balló György]

Hi,

I'll drop the following packages from the [community] repository,
because Avant Window Navigator no longer works with GNOME 3.10
(crashes on startup), upstream is dead, and I can't fix it:
- avant-window-navigator
- awn-extras-applets
- gnome-menus2
- libdesktop-agnostic

If anyone interested in fixing this problem, then check the related bug report:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/37226

Recommended alternatives are cairo-dock and docky.

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György Balló (City-busz)
Trusted User

[aur-general] Dropping GNOME Flashback session

[Balló György]

Hi all,

I'll drop the following packages from the [community] repository as
soon as GNOME 3.10 moved into the stable repositories:
- gnome-applets
- gnome-flashback-session
- gnome-panel
- gnome-settings-daemon-compat
- sensors-applet

The reason is the GNOME Flashback developers don't plan to keep the
compatibility with latest GNOME releases, and I'm not able to make it
compatible alone. If someone interested in fixing the problem, then
check this thread on GNOME Flashback mailing list, where I described
the actual issues:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-flashback-list/2013-September/msg00042.html

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György Balló
Trusted User

Re: [aur-general] Trusted User Application

[Balló György]

Hi,

1. How long have you been using Linux? When was the first time you met
with Arch Linux?

2. Could you list at least three packages that you want to move into
the [community] repository? Do you plan to adopt some packages that
are currently orphan in the official repositories?

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György Balló (City-busz)
Trusted User

Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: Daenyth

[Balló György]

2013/9/28 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca:
 According to the quoted reply above, he has already resigned.

If it an be considered as a resignation, then I'm asking the
administrators of archweb, forum and flyspray to set Daenyth's user
account as fellow user, and orphan his packages in [community] repo.

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György Balló (City-busz)
Trusted User

[aur-general] Which developer should be considered as TU?

[Balló György]

Hi,

The Trusted Users list is a bit different between Archweb and AUR. It
looks like it's unclear which developer is a TU also. This means that
we don't know how many active TUs are there, therefore can't ensure
that the quorum meets on each votes. There are four categories:

1. The following developers are listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], and their account type is 'Trusted User' in AUR:
- Bartłomiej Piotrowski (Barthalion)
- Evangelos Foutras (foutrelis)
- Laurent Carlier (lordheavy)
- Sven-Hendrik Haase (svenstaro)
- Thomas Dziedzic (td123)

2. The following developers are listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], but their account type is 'Developer' in AUR:
- Dave Reisner (falconindy)
- Florian Pritz (Bluewind)
- Jan Steffens (heftig)
- Ray Rashif (schivmeister)

3. The following developers are not listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], but their account type is 'Trusted User' in AUR:
- Ángel Velásquez (angvp)
- Gerardo Pozzi (djgera)

4. The following developer is not listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], and his account type is 'Developer' in AUR, but still takes
part in votes:
- Ronald van Haren (pressh)


According to Trusted User Bylaws, TUs (and only TUs) must take part in
votes. Therefore there should be a clear implementation like this:

- Developers who want to take part in votes should set their account
type to 'Trusted User' (or to a new 'Developer+Trusted User' type) in
AUR, and they should be added to the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].

- Developers who don't want to take part in votes should set their
account type to 'Developer' in AUR, and they should be removed from
the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].

- Users with 'Developers' account type in AUR should not be allowed to vote.


What is your opinion?


[1] https://www.archlinux.org/trustedusers/

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György Balló (City-busz)
Trusted User

[aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: Daenyth

[Balló György]

2013/8/28 Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de:
 - Forwarded message from Daenyth daenyth+a...@gmail.com -

 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:59:55 -0400
 From: Daenyth daenyth+a...@gmail.com
 To: Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de
 Subject: Re: TU Votes -- Reminder!

 Hi Lukas,

 I think I must have missed doing this earlier, but unfortunately I find that I
 have to resign my position as a TU. It's been a lot of fun and I've really
 enjoyed working alongside so many great people and learning through it, but I
 have a lot of new things going on in my life these days that doesn't leave me
 time for the responsibility.

 Could you please forward this email to the AUR list as well? I unsubscribed
 some time ago.

 Warm regards,
 -Gavin


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de
 wrote:

 I am sending this mail to all TUs who skipped three (or more) votes (in
 succession). Guys, I really appreciate all your work but please remember
 that all TUs *must* take part in votes. If there are too many TUs
 neglecting votes, we fail to reach quorums and TU power stagnates. Also
 keep in mind that skipping too many votes automatically triggers a
 special TU removal...

 Thank you for your cooperation.

 Cheers,
 Lukas



 - End forwarded message -


According to the Trusted User Bylaws, I think we should vote about the
removal of an inactive TU, Gavin Bisesi (Daenyth). So I'm starting the
discussion period of 3 days.

1. His last activity on the [community] repo: 2012-05-17
2. His last package update in AUR: 2013-04-24
3. His last message to aur-general mailing list: 2012-06-24

Gavin, thank you for your work on making Arch Linux better. I hope
that once we'll see you again!

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György Balló (City-busz)
Trusted User

[aur-general] TU inactivity - Away until July 12

[Balló György]

Hi,

I'll be away until July 12.

Feel free to fix or update my packages.

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City-busz
Trused User

[aur-general] Dropping nautilus-sound-converter

[Balló György]

Hi,

nautilus-sound-converter is still not ported to GStreamer 1.0, and it
causes that it cannot be installed together with totem's nautilus plugin.
Since I don't want to maintain conflicting packages, I decided to move
nautilus-sound-converter from the [community] repository to AUR.

--
György Balló
Trusted User

Re: [aur-general] Cleanup of beagle related packages

[Balló György]

All of them deleted. Thanks for the report!


2012/11/6 Jekyll Wu adap...@gmail.com

 The beagle[1] upstream is effectively dead. I don't think any major
 distribution still provides it.

 All beagle related packages on AUR are orphaned, and none of them can
 build (for various reasons).  So I would propose removing these packages:


 https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages/beagle-no-gnome/https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/beagle-no-gnome/
 https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages/kerry/https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kerry/
 https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages/kerry-no-gnome-svn/https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kerry-no-gnome-svn/
 https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages/kio-beagle/https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kio-beagle/
 https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages/libbeagle-no-gnome/https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/libbeagle-no-gnome/


 [1] 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Beagle_(software)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_(software)

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Daniel Wallace (gtmanfred)

[Balló György]

2012-06-10 16:57 keltezéssel, Daniel Wallace írta:
 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 02:06:02PM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote:
 On 10 June 2012 11:23, Daniel Wallace daniel.wall...@gatech.edu wrote:
 I don't really have any packages that I think
 really need to be pulled to community, maybe at some point later, but I 
 would really like to
 start making zsh completion for a lot of packages which do not have it 
 already.  I could start
 by maintaining the zathura plugins and the haskell-syb package.
 So your main contribution as you see it now would be zsh completion?


 --
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 I would consider that my biggest contribution in the form of code thus
 far, but I consider helping people in #archilnux to be a larger
 contribution.  I should also clarify the zsh completion stuff.  I have
 been working on a couple of different utilities and plan on submitting
 them upstream in the near future.

Hi,

I can't see a strong reason why you want to be a trusted user, since the
main tasks are maintaining packages in [community] and managing AUR.
It's nice that you want to make zsh completion scripts (however, it's
generally an upstream task), but in a TU application, I would like to
see, what kind of packages that you interested in maintaining in the future.

What kind of packages are you interested in? Is there any popular
packages in AUR that you may want to maintain in [community] in the
future (even if it's not currently maintained by you)?

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Re: [aur-general] merge/delete vala

[Balló György]

2012-04-08 21:42 keltezéssel, Oliver Bandel írta:
 Hello,

 there is a lot of vala stuff in AUR.

 Some sems to be outdated:

 vala-010 0.10.4-1
   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47882

 vala-09 0.9.8-3
   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45525

  0.12.1-3
   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52935

 ===


 MORE UP TO DATE:

 vala-git 20120216-1
   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31429

  vala-devel 0.16.0-1
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38260


 Ciao,
   Oliver


Hi,

the major Vala releases are not fully compatible with each other. Some
apps can be compiled with vala-012 but not with vala-014 and so on. So
these packages (at least vala-010 and vala-012) should be kept.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

[Balló György]

 Is there a separate repo? Do you intend to start one otherwise? I
 would really like to see unity accessible for Arch users.

Unity 2D is available in my [ayatana] repo[1] along with indicators. To
provide x86_64 packages, I'll need a build server.

Unity is a more difficult task, because it depends on a forked compiz
0.9, and I unable get it working with the upstream xorg-server.
Chenxiaolong[2] works also on making Unity available for Arch Linux. His
packages are mostly based on mine, but he maintain much more patched
packages (including xorg-server, glib, even if not all patches are
really needed), which makes his repo more risky.

[1] http://ayatana.info/
[2] https://github.com/chenxiaolong/Unity-for-Arch

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

[Balló György]

Hi,

thanks for the question.

 I looked at your AUR packages and saw that you are maintaining the
 unity desktop. I never used this desktop environment, but as a
 curiosity is it something you want to eventually bring into [community] ?

I worked a lot on making Unity and indicators usable on Arch Linux, but
I don't want to add any of these packages[1] into [community], because
Ubuntu heavily patched gtk2, gtk3[2], metacity and compiz, and it's
impossible to build and/or use some packages with the upstream,
unmodified packages. They patched a lot of other packages also for
better integration into the panel and the launcher.

So if GNOME developers accept some must have patches, then I could
imagine to add these packages, but until it does not happen, it's better
to keep them in a separated repo. (However I'm not sure that Ubuntu sent
all required patches to upstream yet.)


[1] Nearly all packages in ubuntu-unity and apps-unity directories on
https://github.com/City-busz/Arch-Linux-Repository
[2] E.g.: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658563

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[aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

[Balló György]

Hello everybody,

I'm applying to be a Trusted User.

I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main 
system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one 
year. In my free time I like surfing on the net, contributing to OpenStreetMap, 
bicycling, hiking, take photos about trams, and of course, packaging. 

I really like Arch Linux's transparency, the pacman and the build system, the 
website and the great wiki. I'm maintaining packages[1] a long time ago, and I 
already contributed to wiki by creating a page about libcanberra[2], and 
updated, extended some other articles.

I reported many issues[3] with GNOME packages (including upstream and packaging 
bugs) to make Arch Linux better. I usually try to find the solution and send 
patch to upstream if needed before open bug reports. I helped to Ioni e.g. on 
updating some C# packages, and I also cooperated with AndyRTR on splitting out 
extensions from libreoffice
package.

I currently have 150 packages in AUR with a total of 5775 votes. I already 
maintain more than 200 packages as source packages on github[4] and as built 
i686 packages in my [ayatana] repo[5]. I don't want to move all of these 
packages to [community], only the popular ones. I always try to make the best 
packages and I hate poorly written PKGBUILDs.

Some packages that I would like to add to [community]:
- deja-dup (115 votes)
- gwibber (299 votes)
- pinta (186 votes)

Some orphan packages in [community] that I could adopt:
- agave
- buoh

My goal with becoming a TU is to provide more popular GTK+ applications in 
[community] and keep GNOME stable and consistent by fixing packages on large 
updates if needed. I hope that I could support Arch Linux as a TU in the next 
months and years.

Alexander Rødseth is my sponsor.

Best regards,
György Balló

My PGP key: 
https://raw.github.com/City-busz/Arch-Linux-Repository/master/ballog...@gmail.com-public.asc

[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=City-busz
[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libcanberra
[3] 
https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=1status[]=opened=City-buszdo=index
[4] https://github.com/City-busz/Arch-Linux-Repository
[5] http://ayatana.info/




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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

[Balló György]

I understand Heiko's opinion and now I replaced these hackish split
packages by individual packages even if it's requires more maintenance
time on updates. So now users should able to install all of my packages
with AUR helpers, however I don't use these tools at all. I hope that
AUR once will have better support for split packages.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

[Balló György]

Hi,

 which languages do you use to develop web?
I mainly work with HTML/CSS, but currently I'm learning
JavaScript/jQuery and PHP.

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Re: [aur-general] Rename/delete/orphan request

[Balló György]

Thanks, but my 2nd and 3rd requests (deleting alacarte-xfce-devel and
pan-gtk3, orphaning libindicator) are not done yet.

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City-busz

2012/1/11 Bartłomiej Piotrowski barthal...@gmail.com:
 All (should be) done, thanks.

 --
 Bartłomiej Piotrowski
 Arch Linux Trusted User
 http://archlinux.org/

[aur-general] Rename/delete/orphan request

[Balló György]

Hi TUs,

1. I renamed the following packages, please move votes and comments
and delete the older one:
- liferea-unity - liferea-indicator -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54493
- flickrapi - python2-flickrapi -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40323
- python-configglue - python2-configglue -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37016
- lazr.restfulclient - python2-lazr-restfulclient -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32386
- lazr.uri - python2-lazr-uri - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32383
- ubuntuone-storage-protocol - python2-ubuntuone-storageprotocol -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30080
- wadllib - python2-wadllib - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32385
- gwibber-dev - gwibber-devel - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43709

2. Please delete the following orphan, unmaintained packages:
- alacarte-xfce-devel (duplicate of alacarte-xfce) -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44362
- pan-gtk3 (duplicate of pan) - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50009

3. I would like to request to orphan libindicator package, because it
builds only the gtk3-based library, but I need the gtk2-based library
also for some of my packages. I tried to contact with the maintainer
on 28.11.2011 and 06.12.2011 by e-mail about this, but he didn't
responded my mails. The AUR page of the package:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31343

--
Thanks,
City-busz

Re: [aur-general] Rename/delete/orphan request

[Balló György]

+1 rename request:
- indicator-popper - popper - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42667

--
Thanks,
City-busz

2012/1/9 Balló György ballog...@gmail.com:
 Hi TUs,

 1. I renamed the following packages, please move votes and comments
 and delete the older one:
 - liferea-unity - liferea-indicator -
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54493
 - flickrapi - python2-flickrapi -
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40323
 - python-configglue - python2-configglue -
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37016
 - lazr.restfulclient - python2-lazr-restfulclient -
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32386
 - lazr.uri - python2-lazr-uri - 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32383
 - ubuntuone-storage-protocol - python2-ubuntuone-storageprotocol -
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30080
 - wadllib - python2-wadllib - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32385
 - gwibber-dev - gwibber-devel - 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43709

 2. Please delete the following orphan, unmaintained packages:
 - alacarte-xfce-devel (duplicate of alacarte-xfce) -
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44362
 - pan-gtk3 (duplicate of pan) - 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50009

 3. I would like to request to orphan libindicator package, because it
 builds only the gtk3-based library, but I need the gtk2-based library
 also for some of my packages. I tried to contact with the maintainer
 on 28.11.2011 and 06.12.2011 by e-mail about this, but he didn't
 responded my mails. The AUR page of the package:
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31343

 --
 Thanks,
 City-busz

Re: [aur-general] Removal of libdbusmenu-gtk2

[Balló György]

Please delete also the following packages:
- libdbusmenu-gtk2-standalone: merged also into libdbusmenu -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52162
- python-appindicator: libappindicator contains this python binding
itself - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43372

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Thanks,
City-busz

2011/11/29 Zom Aur z...@eevul.org:
 Hello,

 Could someone please remove libdbusmenu-gtk2 from AUR? It's been deprecated
 by libdbusmenu, which now builds both gtk2- and gtk3-versions of the libs.

 Thank you,
 Zom

[aur-general] Ayatana cleanup

[Balló György]

Please remove/rename the following packages:
1. appmenu-gtk3: merged into appmenu-gtk -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51803
2. empathy-indicate: replaced by telepathy-indicator -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34436
3. gtk2-appmenu: renamed to gtk2-ubuntu -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41736
4. gtk2-overlay-scrollbar: merged into gtk2-ubuntu -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48816
5. gtk3-overlay-scrollbar: merged into gtk3-ubuntu -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50116
6. lo-menubar: renamed to libreoffice-extension-menubar -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47337
7. pidgin-libnotify-ubuntu: renamed to pidgin-indicator -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43264
8. python-appindicator: merged into libappindicator -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43372
9. qt-appmenu: merged into qt-ubuntu -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40317

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Thanks,
City-busz

[aur-general] Delete/rename request

[Balló György]

Hi,

gssdp[1], gupnp[2], gupnp-av[3], aisleriot[4], cogl[5], itstool[6] and
unoconv[7] are moved to [extra], please delete them.
[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23700
[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23701
[3] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23704
[4] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52469
[5] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52044
[6] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51054
[7] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15824

sushi[7] should be renamed, because it's name conflicts with sushi in [extra].
[7] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31295

Please delete alacarte-devel, because it's an old SVN package, and
replaced by alacarte-git
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26339


Thanks,
György Balló

[aur-general] Ayatana cleanup

[Balló György]

Hi TUs,

please delete the following packages:
- fixed_appmenu-qt - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50325 -
duplicate of appmenu-qt
- fixed_qt-appmenu - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50314 -
duplicate of qt-appmenu
- bamf-bin - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51288 - duplicate of
bamf
- bamf-daemon - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48687 - duplicate
of bamf
- plasma-message-indicator - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45498
- I uploaded it in a new name: plasma-widget-message-indicator
- unity-place-applications -
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45670- renamed to
unity-lens-applications
- unity-place-files - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45753 -
renamed to unity-lens-files

And please orphan the following packages, because they are outdated, and the
maintainer 
(Gianfrixhttps://aur.archlinux.org/account.php?Action=AccountInfoID=14295)
not responded for my e-mail more than one weeks:
- indicator-messages - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32052
- gnome-session-ubuntu - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44214

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Thanks,
City-busz

Re: [aur-general] Deletion request

[Balló György]

2011/8/27 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com

 On 27 August 2011 09:54, Seven seven forauro...@gmail.com wrote:
  Please delete kdesdk4-svn, kdeutils4-svn, sni-qt and qt-systemtrayicon
  https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10696
  https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10697
  https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50846
  https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50847
  Thanks.
 

 I removed the kde* packages. What is the reason to remove sni-qt and
 qt-systemtrayicon?

 Lukas



If Seven seven no longer wants to maintain sni-qt package, I could adopt
them. In this case qt-systemtrayicon could be deleted since I already
created a package (qt-ubuntu), which contains the required patches for
appmenu-qt, dconf-qt and sni-qt.


City-busz

[aur-general] gwibber duplicates

[Balló György]

Hi,

please delete the following duplicates of gwibber and gwibber-dev:
gwibber-dev-updated - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47745
gwibber-light - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47233
gwibber-new - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48086
gwibber3 - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49306


Thanks

[aur-general] Deletion request (libreoffice-extension-gdocs)

[Balló György]

Hi,

Please delete libreoffice-extension-gdocs package (
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45372) from AUR, because it was
added to [extra] as name libreoffice-extension-google-docs.

Thanks