Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan

2016-03-09 Thread Dave Donald
Wow. My interest was piqued when I saw 'RAF U2'. Got on line and saw an article 
in the independent.co.uk which names Mr MacArthur. What a fascinating bloke he 
would be talk to!


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  On Thu, 10 Mar, 2016 at 4:00 pm, Mike Cleaver 
wrote:   The figures quoted in the article are the officially admitted FAI 
records they hold. Unofficially higher flights were " classified " information, 
but the F4 Phantom did a zoom climb to 104,000 ft at least once.
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On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:48, Mike Borgelt  wrote:


Apart from the bit about recreational glider pilots avoiding mountainwave, the 
late model U-2 easily goes straight to 74,000 feet. There wasan article in 
AW about it years ago where they flew an editor fromthe magazine in a two 
seater.

The A-12 (early single seat version)/SR71 was apparently tested to 91,000feet 
or so. Kelly Johnson told them not to push their luck any higher.Got that from 
Pat Halloran who used to fly U-2 and SR71.

I sure hope the Perlan guys have their meteorology right. John MacArthur,former 
RAF U-2 pilot who lives in Toowoomba told be it was always smoothas a baby's 
bottom at 70,000 feet. He did say they avoided thunderstormsand known 
turbulence.

Mike






At 11:33 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote:


Even the aviation press doesn'talways get things right.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/perlan-2-glider-starts-cabin-pressurisation-tests-422970/
 

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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan

2016-03-09 Thread Mike Cleaver
The figures quoted in the article are the officially admitted FAI records they 
hold. Unofficially higher flights were " classified " information, but the F4 
Phantom did a zoom climb to 104,000 ft at least once.

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> On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:48, Mike Borgelt  
> wrote:
> 
> Apart from the bit about recreational glider pilots avoiding mountain wave, 
> the late model U-2 easily goes straight to 74,000 feet. There was an article 
> in AW about it years ago where they flew an editor from the magazine in a 
> two seater.
> 
> The A-12 (early single seat version)/SR71 was apparently tested to 91,000 
> feet or so. Kelly Johnson told them not to push their luck any higher. Got 
> that from Pat Halloran who used to fly U-2 and SR71.
> 
> I sure hope the Perlan guys have their meteorology right. John MacArthur, 
> former RAF U-2 pilot who lives in Toowoomba told be it was always smooth as a 
> baby's bottom at 70,000 feet. He did say they avoided thunderstorms and known 
> turbulence.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:33 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote:
> 
>> Even the aviation press doesn't always get things right.
>> 
>> https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/perlan-2-glider-starts-cabin-pressurisation-tests-422970/
>>  
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring 
>> instrumentation since 1978
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>> tel:   07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784
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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan

2016-03-09 Thread Mike Borgelt
Apart from the bit about recreational glider pilots avoiding mountain 
wave, the late model U-2 easily goes straight to 74,000 feet. There 
was an article in AW about it years ago where they flew an editor 
from the magazine in a two seater.


The A-12 (early single seat version)/SR71 was apparently tested to 
91,000 feet or so. Kelly Johnson told them not to push their luck any 
higher. Got that from Pat Halloran who used to fly U-2 and SR71.


I sure hope the Perlan guys have their meteorology right. John 
MacArthur, former RAF U-2 pilot who lives in Toowoomba told be it was 
always smooth as a baby's bottom at 70,000 feet. He did say they 
avoided thunderstorms and known turbulence.


Mike






At 11:33 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote:


Even the aviation press doesn't always get things right.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/perlan-2-glider-starts-cabin-pressurisation-tests-422970/ 



Mike



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