Re: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

2016-04-01 Thread Alan Wilson
There are many options.  Many are difficult to see in direct sunlight but you 
can change font size and black on white, or white on black text may assist.  
But  I suggest you only need to see the screen every few minutes, not 
continuously….

 

A Tablet is fine, but a mobile phone would mean you could be online in the air. 
 I use a Galaxy Note Edge phone mainly with the screen off but available at the 
push of the on-off switch and the battery lasts about 6 hours. And it logs all 
the flight. And you could also be on Livetrack24?

 

1.   Why not use free  XCSoar on an android Nexus 7  [$150] but set up 
different info boxes appropriate to your powered flying as AUX 2, 3, 4 etc.

2.   Use an [your? Or a Chinese $100] android phone as above.  Note the 
phone means you could download BOM Radar real time pictures as you fly along.  

3.   Note also on many Android boxes you can briefly push the on-off switch 
to kill the screen and save battery and box heating.  Push the on-off again and 
the screen and data is up to date.

4.   Buy a Cube T7 7” android mobile phone for a bit more screen space.  
Less than $200 on EBay ex  Hong Kong… not sure the screen will be bright enough 
without some shading.

5.   Spend much more money at Apple iTunes  on commercial aircraft software 
if you like and be tied forever to proprietary software.

6.   Load XCSoar on your Oudie, its easy and arguably more user friendly. 
And software and updates are free but probably not ICAO compliant, but it works.

 

Alan Wilson

Canberra

 

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Nexus7 still available on ebay. 


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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

Can anyone recommend a bright (daylight) readable tablet for use as nav device 
in a motor-glider?

 

 


 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:13 +1100 Mark Fisher wrote  

Jezuz.. Because they do! 

Checkout some antenna theory.



On Monday, 28 March 2016, Peter Champness  wrote:

Why is that?

 

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Richard Frawley  wrote:

they point the wrong way to get good reception. not optimal.

 

 


On 28 Mar 2016, at 7:42 PM, Peter Champness  wrote:

maybe

 

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Adam Woolley  wrote:

Hello all,

 

Has anyone got a spare (or two) of the old canopy mounted Flarm antennas that 
they'd be willing to part ways with?

 

 

SeeYou,

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

2016-04-01 Thread DMcD
>> for use as nav device in a motor-glider?

As a nav device, that is where you don't want a glide computer, you
can't go far wrong with a large phone like an iPhone 6 and Ozrunways
on a Ram mount..

The modern phones are adequately bright and the large-screen versions
such as the iPhone 6S have a really good battery life.

A few of us have found that even a small tablet such as the iPad mini
can be too large for a sailplane. You'd have more room in a motor
glider cockpit.

If you are going to mount it somehow using something like a Ram mount,
the size of the lump is considerable.  The weight of the tablet and
what happens in turbulence needs to be thought about too. So the
slightly smaller phone is less of a problem.

It's also worth considering whether you are using other nav apps as
well and things like Inreach Earthmate apps for SAR etc before jumping
into a particular platform which may support things like XCSoar well
but not the others.

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

2016-04-01 Thread Ben Brand
The Kobo’s are sensational for readability. I still have 2 of the Kobo Mini’s 
running XCSoar but found they are flaky once the temp gets “Aussie hot” and the 
touch screen becomes unresponsive… Not sure about the newer Touch and Glo, but 
after numerous flights with a nonresponsive touch screen I went Android and 
Nexus.

 

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

 

I saw a Kobo (B&W, but sunlight readable in the same way a book is) for sale in 
the latest gliding Australia. XCSoar only.

 

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Nexus7 still available on ebay. 


Regs
Ben

--- Original Message ---

From: "Greg Wilson" mailto:g...@gregwilson.id.au> >
Sent: April 2, 2016 9:26 AM
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> >
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

Can anyone recommend a bright (daylight) readable tablet for use as nav device 
in a motor-glider?

 

 


 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:13 +1100 Mark Fishermailto:m...@spe.com.au> > wrote  

Jezuz.. Because they do! 

Checkout some antenna theory.



On Monday, 28 March 2016, Peter Champness mailto:plchampn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Why is that?

 

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Richard Frawley mailto:rjfraw...@gmail.com> > wrote:

they point the wrong way to get good reception. not optimal.

 

 


On 28 Mar 2016, at 7:42 PM, Peter Champness mailto:plchampn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

maybe

 

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Adam Woolley mailto:go_soar...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

 

Has anyone got a spare (or two) of the old canopy mounted Flarm antennas that 
they'd be willing to part ways with?

 

 

SeeYou,

WPP


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

2016-04-01 Thread Matthew Scutter
I saw a Kobo (B&W, but sunlight readable in the same way a book is) for
sale in the latest gliding Australia. XCSoar only.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 10:35 AM, b_br...@tpg.com.au 
wrote:

> Nexus7 still available on ebay.
>
>
> Regs
> Ben
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Greg Wilson" 
> Sent: April 2, 2016 9:26 AM
> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <
> aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?
>
> Can anyone recommend a bright (daylight) readable tablet for use as nav
> device in a motor-glider?
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:13 +1100 *Mark Fisher >* wrote 
>
> Jezuz.. Because they do!
> Checkout some antenna theory.
>
>
> On Monday, 28 March 2016, Peter Champness  wrote:
>
> Why is that?
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Richard Frawley 
> wrote:
>
> they point the wrong way to get good reception. not optimal.
>
>
>
> On 28 Mar 2016, at 7:42 PM, Peter Champness  wrote:
>
> maybe
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Adam Woolley 
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone got a spare (or two) of the old canopy mounted Flarm antennas
> that they'd be willing to part ways with?
>
>
> SeeYou,
> WPP
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

2016-04-01 Thread b_br...@tpg.com.au
 Nexus7 still available on ebay.


Regs
Ben

--- Original Message ---

From: "Greg Wilson" 
Sent: April 2, 2016 9:26 AM
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 

Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

Can anyone recommend a bright (daylight) readable tablet for use as nav device 
in a motor-glider?






 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:13 +1100 Mark Fisher 
wrote 

Jezuz.. Because they do!Checkout some antenna theory.


On Monday, 28 March 2016, Peter Champness  wrote:
Why is that?

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Richard Frawley  
wrote:

they point the wrong way to get good reception. not optimal.





On 28 Mar 2016, at 7:42 PM, Peter Champness  wrote:


maybe

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Adam Woolley  
wrote:
  Hello all,


 Has anyone got a spare (or two) of the old canopy mounted Flarm antennas that 
they'd be willing to part ways with?




 SeeYou,
 WPP




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Re: [Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

2016-04-01 Thread Optusnet
Oudie 2 

Robust, supported able to use which ever software you want. 

Great service by Al Sim from Go-Soaring. 

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Apr 2016, at 8:26 AM, Greg Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a bright (daylight) readable tablet for use as nav 
> device in a motor-glider?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:13 +1100 Mark Fisher wrote 
>  
> Jezuz.. Because they do!
> Checkout some antenna theory.
> 
> 
> On Monday, 28 March 2016, Peter Champness  wrote:
> Why is that?
> 
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Richard Frawley  wrote:
> they point the wrong way to get good reception. not optimal.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2016, at 7:42 PM, Peter Champness  wrote:
>> 
>> maybe
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Adam Woolley  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Has anyone got a spare (or two) of the old canopy mounted Flarm antennas 
>> that they'd be willing to part ways with?
>> 
>> 
>> SeeYou,
>> WPP
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[Aus-soaring] Tablet recommendations?

2016-04-01 Thread Greg Wilson
Can anyone recommend a bright (daylight) readable tablet for use as nav device 
in a motor-glider?






 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:13 +1100 Mark Fisher 
wrote  

Jezuz.. Because they do!Checkout some antenna theory.


On Monday, 28 March 2016, Peter Champness  wrote:
Why is that?

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Richard Frawley  
wrote:

they point the wrong way to get good reception. not optimal.





On 28 Mar 2016, at 7:42 PM, Peter Champness  wrote:


maybe

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Adam Woolley  
wrote:
  Hello all,
 
 
 Has anyone got a spare (or two) of the old canopy mounted Flarm antennas that 
they'd be willing to part ways with?
 
 
 
 
 SeeYou,
 WPP
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Canopy Flarm Antenna

2016-04-01 Thread Greg Wilson
Think of a flat aerial as a double sided satellite dish - it transmits and 
receives towards both of the flat sides, not off the edges. A stick on type 
aerial on the side of the cockpit windscreen will give good reception to both 
sides but minimal ahead or behind. A pole type aerial mounted vertically will 
give reception in 360 degrees provided there are no metal objects nearby 
blocking signal.








 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:06:13 +1100 Mark Fisher  
wrote  

Jezuz.. Because they do!Checkout some antenna theory.


On Monday, 28 March 2016, Peter Champness  wrote:
Why is that?

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Richard Frawley  
wrote:

they point the wrong way to get good reception. not optimal.





On 28 Mar 2016, at 7:42 PM, Peter Champness  wrote:


maybe

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Adam Woolley  
wrote:
  Hello all,
 
 
 Has anyone got a spare (or two) of the old canopy mounted Flarm antennas that 
they'd be willing to part ways with?
 
 
 
 
 SeeYou,
 WPP
 
 
 
 
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