[Aus-soaring] Perlan Progress

2017-08-06 Thread Rob Wintulich 
For those who may be interested, Perlan 2 has just reached 32,500 feet (9,900m) 
altitude over El Calafate, Argentina in its preparation for record attempts 
later in the year.
http://newatlas.com/perlan-2-altitude/50772/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=58cd37f543-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-58cd37f543-91911877

Regards,
Rob Wintulich.

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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan/U-2

2016-03-14 Thread Anthony Smith 
> Must be one hell of a trailer parked outside. Imagine how scarce everyone 
> will be on the day they call for a rigging crew.

 

 

I have helped put the wings onto a C-47 Dakota.  It was… interesting.

 

There were photos and a link to the manual for the rigging of a P-47 
Thunderbolt circulated some time ago.

 

Anthony

 

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On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:17 PM, Derek Ruddock <drudd...@iinet.net.au 
<mailto:drudd...@iinet.net.au> > wrote:

 

After doing some research after the recent Tom Hanks film re Gary Powers, I 
found an amazing amount of declassified information on the U2 program, 
including all the actual flight paths. Google is your friend.

 

I visited Duxford in July.

 

They’re building a new exhibit hall for the American stuff: effectively a 
hangar big enough for the Duxford B-52, but with a glass front facing the 
runway. Massive quantities of concrete and structural steelwork. Won’t need 
radio navaids to find Duxford, you’ll be able to see the gravitational 
deflection of a plumb-bob.

 

Anyway:

 

Due to the (con | de)struction, all the American stuff is salted away into 
other parts of the museum, intermingled with other exhibits.

 

The hangar next to the one that contains the Concorde prototype currently, on a 
temporary basis, hosts the museum’s U-2.

 

But there isn’t enough space in that hangar for the U-2, everything is crammed 
in with no sensitivity at all to the exhibits’ historical significance. So the 
U-2 wings are sitting on the floor underneath and parallel to the fuselage of 
their SR-71, next to the U-2’s fuselage sitting on something that looks for all 
the world like a trailer dolly.

 

Yes, that’s right: They’ve derigged it.

 

SR-71 with U-2 wing panels on the floor:

 



 

 

U-2 fuselage sitting in a fuse cradle. Sadly, you can’t get any closer to it 
than this.

 



 

Must be one hell of a trailer parked outside. Imagine how scarce everyone will 
be on the day they call for a rigging crew.

 

  - mark

 

 

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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan/U-2

2016-03-14 Thread Mark Newton 
On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:55 AM, Mike Borgelt  
wrote:
> If you haven't already done so I'd also recommend Brian Schul's books "Sled 
> driver" and "the Untouchables" about flying the SR-71. The latter has a 
> section where he and his backseater flew the pre, strike day and post strike 
> reconnaissance on the 1986 Libyan raid.

There’s a long and fascinating interview with Brian Schul on a recent episode 
of the Airplane Geeks podcast.

http://www.airplanegeeks.com/2015/11/04/airplanegeeks-375-sled-driver-brian-shul/
 


  - mark


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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan/U-2

2016-03-11 Thread Jim Staniforth 
Glad they're not flying SR-71s any more, they're extremely noisy going 
through Mach. First time hearing it, thought someone had crashed into 
the house.

The shock waves were quite visible in a Cirrus deck. Ripples then BOOM.
Irv Culver had a few stories about the 71. He was also originator of the 
name Skunk Works.

Haven't seen a U-2 in a while.
Jim

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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan

2016-03-09 Thread Dave Donald 
Wow. My interest was piqued when I saw 'RAF U2'. Got on line and saw an article 
in the independent.co.uk which names Mr MacArthur. What a fascinating bloke he 
would be talk to!


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  On Thu, 10 Mar, 2016 at 4:00 pm, Mike Cleaver 
wrote:   The figures quoted in the article are the officially admitted FAI 
records they hold. Unofficially higher flights were " classified " information, 
but the F4 Phantom did a zoom climb to 104,000 ft at least once.
Wombat

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On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:48, Mike Borgelt  wrote:


Apart from the bit about recreational glider pilots avoiding mountainwave, the 
late model U-2 easily goes straight to 74,000 feet. There wasan article in 
AW about it years ago where they flew an editor fromthe magazine in a two 
seater.

The A-12 (early single seat version)/SR71 was apparently tested to 91,000feet 
or so. Kelly Johnson told them not to push their luck any higher.Got that from 
Pat Halloran who used to fly U-2 and SR71.

I sure hope the Perlan guys have their meteorology right. John MacArthur,former 
RAF U-2 pilot who lives in Toowoomba told be it was always smoothas a baby's 
bottom at 70,000 feet. He did say they avoided thunderstormsand known 
turbulence.

Mike






At 11:33 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote:


Even the aviation press doesn'talways get things right.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/perlan-2-glider-starts-cabin-pressurisation-tests-422970/
 

Mike



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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan

2016-03-09 Thread Mike Cleaver 
The figures quoted in the article are the officially admitted FAI records they 
hold. Unofficially higher flights were " classified " information, but the F4 
Phantom did a zoom climb to 104,000 ft at least once.

Wombat

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> On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:48, Mike Borgelt  
> wrote:
> 
> Apart from the bit about recreational glider pilots avoiding mountain wave, 
> the late model U-2 easily goes straight to 74,000 feet. There was an article 
> in AW about it years ago where they flew an editor from the magazine in a 
> two seater.
> 
> The A-12 (early single seat version)/SR71 was apparently tested to 91,000 
> feet or so. Kelly Johnson told them not to push their luck any higher. Got 
> that from Pat Halloran who used to fly U-2 and SR71.
> 
> I sure hope the Perlan guys have their meteorology right. John MacArthur, 
> former RAF U-2 pilot who lives in Toowoomba told be it was always smooth as a 
> baby's bottom at 70,000 feet. He did say they avoided thunderstorms and known 
> turbulence.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:33 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote:
> 
>> Even the aviation press doesn't always get things right.
>> 
>> https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/perlan-2-glider-starts-cabin-pressurisation-tests-422970/
>>  
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] perlan

2016-03-09 Thread Mike Borgelt 
Apart from the bit about recreational glider pilots avoiding mountain 
wave, the late model U-2 easily goes straight to 74,000 feet. There 
was an article in AW about it years ago where they flew an editor 
from the magazine in a two seater.


The A-12 (early single seat version)/SR71 was apparently tested to 
91,000 feet or so. Kelly Johnson told them not to push their luck any 
higher. Got that from Pat Halloran who used to fly U-2 and SR71.


I sure hope the Perlan guys have their meteorology right. John 
MacArthur, former RAF U-2 pilot who lives in Toowoomba told be it was 
always smooth as a baby's bottom at 70,000 feet. He did say they 
avoided thunderstorms and known turbulence.


Mike






At 11:33 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote:


Even the aviation press doesn't always get things right.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/perlan-2-glider-starts-cabin-pressurisation-tests-422970/ 



Mike



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