[Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
Hi all I was wondering whether there is anyone on this newsgroup who can help me with a nice photo of a Mammatus cloud? Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
Back in the 70's there was a BoM Met instructor who instructed in the ATS School had a very nice photo of Mammatus - problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct :-( Seriously -Google it - I did http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/arch ives/images/clouds_aguirre.jpg http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/arc hives/images/clouds_aguirre.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/arch ives/2004/06/holy_scary_clou.htmlh=480w=640sz=44hl=enstart=8tbnid=LhK5 zVz3DYjHoM:tbnh=103tbnw=137prev=/images%3Fq%3DMammatus%2Bcloud%26gbv%3D2% 26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG imgrefurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/2004/06/holy_scary_clou.ht mlh=480w=640sz=44hl=enstart=8tbnid=LhK5zVz3DYjHoM:tbnh=103tbnw=137p rev=/images%3Fq%3DMammatus%2Bcloud%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG SDF _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 5:37 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Hi all I was wondering whether there is anyone on this newsgroup who can help me with a nice photo of a Mammatus cloud? Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
Bernard Just Google mammatus cloud and you will find hundreds of great pics. Then just right click on any picture and select View Image or Save Image As Cheers, ROSS _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 5:37 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Hi all I was wondering whether there is anyone on this newsgroup who can help me with a nice photo of a Mammatus cloud? Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
http://www.pbase.com/jarekm/image/51086188 Please let me know if you need better resolution than this. Regards Jarek Future Aviation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I was wondering whether there is anyone on this newsgroup who can help me with a nice photo of a Mammatus cloud? Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
What information can be deduced from mammatus clouds ? regards JR - Original Message - From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Back in the 70's there was a BoM Met instructor who instructed in the ATS School had a very nice photo of Mammatus - problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct L Seriously -Google it - I did http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/images/clouds_aguirre.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/2004/06/holy_scary_clou.htmlh=480w=640sz=44hl=enstart=8tbnid=LhK5zVz3DYjHoM:tbnh=103tbnw=137prev=/images%3Fq%3DMammatus%2Bcloud%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG SDF -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 5:37 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Hi all I was wondering whether there is anyone on this newsgroup who can help me with a nice photo of a Mammatus cloud? Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness...
problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct That is so silly if it is true, America maybe, but not Oz? Then words like Mammal, would be right out. Or: Galaxy, Mammillary Bodies, Nipple (used in a engineering sense). Whatever next: little cloth booties around the release knob so we don't get titillated (oops, another bad word, damn, sorry ... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
Sinking air. regards, John - Original Message - From: JR To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud What information can be deduced from mammatus clouds ? regards JR - Original Message - From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Back in the 70's there was a BoM Met instructor who instructed in the ATS School had a very nice photo of Mammatus - problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct L Seriously -Google it - I did http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/images/clouds_aguirre.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/2004/06/holy_scary_clou.htmlh=480w=640sz=44hl=enstart=8tbnid=LhK5zVz3DYjHoM:tbnh=103tbnw=137prev=/images%3Fq%3DMammatus%2Bcloud%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG SDF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 5:37 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Hi all I was wondering whether there is anyone on this newsgroup who can help me with a nice photo of a Mammatus cloud? Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness...
Michael, The photo was a photo a well endowed you lady with her top off; it was inserted into possibly 100 cloud identification photos used for the training and examining trainee ATS officers who were to be qualified as Aviation Meteorology Observers - a little harmless humour during a boring lecture until you start training young ladies. The world has changed, mostly for the better, but sometimes it also nice to remember the way it was :) The main point here is I remember this lesson from over 30 years ago so it was an effective lesson. The other one I remember is how to tell the difference between warm and cold fronts on a weather map (barbs and boobs) boobs are always warm fronts; bet you never forget that one now either :) - once again not politically correct in 2008. The lecturers name was Mal Glover, he was a great teacher, great memories. SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 6:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness... problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct That is so silly if it is true, America maybe, but not Oz? Then words like Mammal, would be right out. Or: Galaxy, Mammillary Bodies, Nipple (used in a engineering sense). Whatever next: little cloth booties around the release knob so we don't get titillated (oops, another bad word, damn, sorry ... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
Hello Jarek Yes, that's the sort of shot I was looking for. The problem with photos downloaded from the internet is that I run into copyright issues. Could you let me have a high resolution version of the shot, please? Also, could you please confirm that I'm allowed to use the photo for free in any of my publications? Many thanks and kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jarek Mosiejewski Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 5:31 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia . Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud http://www.pbase.com/jarekm/image/51086188 Please let me know if you need better resolution than this. Regards Jarek Future Aviation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I was wondering whether there is anyone on this newsgroup who can help me with a nice photo of a Mammatus cloud? Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness...
Look at the cartoons in the Rieti Web site there is a nice shot of a Mammatus cloud there no Political correctness in ITALY I mailed you personally an not on Aus Soaring in case I upset some woman. At 06:23 PM 15/07/2008, you wrote: Michael, The photo was a photo a well endowed you lady with her top off; it was inserted into possibly 100 cloud identification photos used for the training and examining trainee ATS officers who were to be qualified as Aviation Meteorology Observers - a little harmless humour during a boring lecture until you start training young ladies. The world has changed, mostly for the better, but sometimes it also nice to remember the way it was :) The main point here is I remember this lesson from over 30 years ago so it was an effective lesson. The other one I remember is how to tell the difference between warm and cold fronts on a weather map (barbs and boobs) boobs are always warm fronts; bet you never forget that one now either :) - once again not politically correct in 2008. The lecturers name was Mal Glover, he was a great teacher, great memories. SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 6:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness... problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct That is so silly if it is true, America maybe, but not Oz? Then words like Mammal, would be right out. Or: Galaxy, Mammillary Bodies, Nipple (used in a engineering sense). Whatever next: little cloth booties around the release knob so we don't get titillated (oops, another bad word, damn, sorry ... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
I appologise to any I may have offended with my Mammatus comments it was not ment for Aus-Soaring At 06:23 PM 15/07/2008, you wrote: Michael, The photo was a photo a well endowed you lady with her top off; it was inserted into possibly 100 cloud identification photos used for the training and examining trainee ATS officers who were to be qualified as Aviation Meteorology Observers - a little harmless humour during a boring lecture until you start training young ladies. The world has changed, mostly for the better, but sometimes it also nice to remember the way it was :) The main point here is I remember this lesson from over 30 years ago so it was an effective lesson. The other one I remember is how to tell the difference between warm and cold fronts on a weather map (barbs and boobs) boobs are always warm fronts; bet you never forget that one now either :) - once again not politically correct in 2008. The lecturers name was Mal Glover, he was a great teacher, great memories. SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 6:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness... problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct That is so silly if it is true, America maybe, but not Oz? Then words like Mammal, would be right out. Or: Galaxy, Mammillary Bodies, Nipple (used in a engineering sense). Whatever next: little cloth booties around the release knob so we don't get titillated (oops, another bad word, damn, sorry ... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
Well I for one am deeply shocked and stunned, keep up the good work regards JR. - Original Message - From: Robert Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud I appologise to any I may have offended with my Mammatus comments it was not ment for Aus-Soaring At 06:23 PM 15/07/2008, you wrote: Michael, The photo was a photo a well endowed you lady with her top off; it was inserted into possibly 100 cloud identification photos used for the training and examining trainee ATS officers who were to be qualified as Aviation Meteorology Observers - a little harmless humour during a boring lecture until you start training young ladies. The world has changed, mostly for the better, but sometimes it also nice to remember the way it was :) The main point here is I remember this lesson from over 30 years ago so it was an effective lesson. The other one I remember is how to tell the difference between warm and cold fronts on a weather map (barbs and boobs) boobs are always warm fronts; bet you never forget that one now either :) - once again not politically correct in 2008. The lecturers name was Mal Glover, he was a great teacher, great memories. SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 6:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness... problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct That is so silly if it is true, America maybe, but not Oz? Then words like Mammal, would be right out. Or: Galaxy, Mammillary Bodies, Nipple (used in a engineering sense). Whatever next: little cloth booties around the release knob so we don't get titillated (oops, another bad word, damn, sorry ... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
I also am deeply deeply offended and embarrassed that JR of all people should be subjected to such indignity after his operation which despite his natural tendencies cannot be reversed. regards John Ashford 07 3822 4264 0409679867 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 7:46 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Well I for one am deeply shocked and stunned, keep up the good work regards JR. - Original Message - From: Robert Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud I appologise to any I may have offended with my Mammatus comments it was not ment for Aus-Soaring At 06:23 PM 15/07/2008, you wrote: Michael, The photo was a photo a well endowed you lady with her top off; it was inserted into possibly 100 cloud identification photos used for the training and examining trainee ATS officers who were to be qualified as Aviation Meteorology Observers - a little harmless humour during a boring lecture until you start training young ladies. The world has changed, mostly for the better, but sometimes it also nice to remember the way it was :) The main point here is I remember this lesson from over 30 years ago so it was an effective lesson. The other one I remember is how to tell the difference between warm and cold fronts on a weather map (barbs and boobs) boobs are always warm fronts; bet you never forget that one now either :) - once again not politically correct in 2008. The lecturers name was Mal Glover, he was a great teacher, great memories. SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 6:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness... problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct That is so silly if it is true, America maybe, but not Oz? Then words like Mammal, would be right out. Or: Galaxy, Mammillary Bodies, Nipple (used in a engineering sense). Whatever next: little cloth booties around the release knob so we don't get titillated (oops, another bad word, damn, sorry ... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 13/07/2008 5:58 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 13/07/2008 5:58 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud
So its come to this, poo jokes, thank god your comments were off list. regards JR - Original Message - From: Ashford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud I also am deeply deeply offended and embarrassed that JR of all people should be subjected to such indignity after his operation which despite his natural tendencies cannot be reversed. regards John Ashford 07 3822 4264 0409679867 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 7:46 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud Well I for one am deeply shocked and stunned, keep up the good work regards JR. - Original Message - From: Robert Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud I appologise to any I may have offended with my Mammatus comments it was not ment for Aus-Soaring At 06:23 PM 15/07/2008, you wrote: Michael, The photo was a photo a well endowed you lady with her top off; it was inserted into possibly 100 cloud identification photos used for the training and examining trainee ATS officers who were to be qualified as Aviation Meteorology Observers - a little harmless humour during a boring lecture until you start training young ladies. The world has changed, mostly for the better, but sometimes it also nice to remember the way it was :) The main point here is I remember this lesson from over 30 years ago so it was an effective lesson. The other one I remember is how to tell the difference between warm and cold fronts on a weather map (barbs and boobs) boobs are always warm fronts; bet you never forget that one now either :) - once again not politically correct in 2008. The lecturers name was Mal Glover, he was a great teacher, great memories. SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 6:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mammatus Cloud, political correctness... problem it had to stop using it as the world became politically correct That is so silly if it is true, America maybe, but not Oz? Then words like Mammal, would be right out. Or: Galaxy, Mammillary Bodies, Nipple (used in a engineering sense). Whatever next: little cloth booties around the release knob so we don't get titillated (oops, another bad word, damn, sorry ... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 13/07/2008 5:58 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 13/07/2008 5:58 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: Pawnee window open during towing isnot agood idea!!
Mike and others The official approved manual nowadays is the manufacturer's POH where this was required by the certification standard for the aircraft - there was no such requirement for earlier versions of the Pawnee as it was either CAR 3 or an early amendment of FAR 23. However, you still need to nominate the POH version you are using and obtain a CASA approval page for any supplements like a glider towing supplement or door-off supplement, even if there is no requirement for a POH. There is a list on the CASA web site (which I highlighted a couple of months ago) of aircraft that do not require a flight manual. However there is nothing wrong with keeping a copy of the old CASA Approved Flight Manual for reference, even though you cannot have it accepted in place of a POH as the official manual. Don't ask me why - I just used to work for them. You may also find the relevant information on the type certificate data sheet on the FAA web site http://www.faa.gov Wombat At 11:41 15/07/2008, you wrote: Mark, Do we even have CASA approved flight manuals nowadays? Seems there was some change a few years ago which was very confusing. Maybe the Pawnee window restriction should be placarded in front of the pilot? Mike At 10:53 PM 14/07/2008, you wrote: LOL, CASA, Thats funny. -- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:10:24 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: Pawnee window open during towing isnot agood idea!! Howdy all, As Far as i know if the pawnee flight manual for that exact aircraft rego ( in section 8 of the flight manual ) has a STC in the flight manual as a CASA ammended and approved page, that states Door off flying permitted with the new placarded airspeeds and limitations, whip the pins out chuck the door in the hanger and have the wind and all the carbon monoxide in your face you like . If the aircraft flight manual DOES NOT have a STC for door off operations, then ya just shit out of luck and have to keep the doors closed and locked. Pretty simple maybee some one should have a chat to CASA and see what there take is on this situation is, and get a offical answer on paper. i think i know what there response will be.. If any one wants a copy of a flight manual suppliment for door off operations i have a copy out of a cherokee i flew, that i can email out. In short if its not in the flight manual you can't do it. I stand to be corrected 8-) Ben -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Rowe Sent: Mon 7/14/2008 8:05 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: Pawnee window open during towing isnot agood idea!! Sorry, i neglected to say before, regulation says that if fitted all hatches must be fixed before flight. If flying with open door just remove it, lets face it there are only 2 pins to remove. Last season NGC had quite a lot of damage done to our pawnee with this type of incident, the pilot was very lucky that time. Door came off and cleaned up the left tailplane and flogged against the fuselage, club was not happy having damage to our new tug i can tell you. How about we look deeper into the cause and affect with regard to some of the ways we operate, a silly or lazy action can have disastrous effects, if the PIC wants the wind in his hair then don't just do it by halves. Think about the ongoing risks and consequence hey.. Cowboys ride horses not fly aircraft. Cheers Mark -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:11:15 +1000 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: Pawnee window open during towing is not a good idea!! I have watched the discussion about flying Pawnee aircraft with the door down with interest. I have seen folks at Fayence in France flying with the left door down so the practice is not confined to Australia or New Zealand. As for banging your head on the window during decent, this can be largely avoided by keeping the pilots harness nice and tight and the inertia reel on the shoulder straps in the locked position Tom van Blaricum -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Kurstjens Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:23 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: Pawnee window open during towing is not agood idea!! It is SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED to fly a Pawnee with the window open, according to the flight manual. That should make it quite clear. Bashing your head on the window/door during a descent through lively thermals is another matter altogether! Pam Kurstjens From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Rowe Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 5:37 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: Pawnee window open during towing is not a
[Aus-soaring] Magic Carpet
Oh look what someone did! Oh woe me! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_carpet It'll probably only be up for 15 minutes, so here it is if it's deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magic_carpetoldid=225922596 -- timmo you know what i hate timmo errors that wont go away Guilty So you dislike children too ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Theories about mammatus Cloud (serious post)
The conventional teaching is that mammatus indicates downdraughts and turbulence, hence we should avoid flying under it. The cause and significance of mammatus cloud is not a clear cut as people may think: See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammatus (Noting that wikipedia is not peer reviewed, any meteorologists out there?) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
