[Aus-soaring] 126.7 congestion
I have just had a week out at Darling Downs, Jondaryan Qld. (DDSC) on 126.7. Even during the week the noise was excessive with what sounds like open mikes almost continually. Not being a radio boffin, is this caused by transmissions from very far away? I flew yesterday Saturday and it just got worse with over transmission almost continuously and transmissions from Tangalooma (Moreton Bay) to Rainbow Beach being heard. 126.7 was almost useless at times, especially when the fleet was being launched at DDSC. Once on Xcountry, we changed to 122.7 which was bliss compared but I was still monitoring 126.7 on my hand held and it got better later on in the day but still open mikes. On 122.7, there were two presumably glider pilots chatting without call signs, unlike our DDSC pilots who were very brief and pertinent. As RAPAC rep for Gliding Qld. and RAPAC South Qld, please give me some feed back for the next meeting on Nov. 19th. PeterS___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 126.7 congestion
PCS2 wrote: I have just had a week out at Darling Downs, Jondaryan Qld. (DDSC) on 126.7. Even during the week the noise was excessive with what sounds like open mikes almost continually. Not being a radio boffin, is this caused by transmissions from very far away? It's hard to say for sure Peter. A lot of electronic devices - including the computer you are sitting at now - put out weak signals (carriers) all over the radio spectrum. These come from internal oscillators in the various circuits for the device. The more complex the device, the more of these birdies you are likely to find. These can sound like an un-modulated carrier. Try to remove yourself from close proximity to anything which is electronic. The problem may go away. The squelch levels on your radio may be set too close to the threshold weak signal level. Most radios with the new menu preset squelch are a real pain in this respect. (see Mike B's comments on this). The open mike symptom is not so easily explained, unless of course there are radio installations around which do really have audio problems. (Not altogether uncommon in gliding situations) I flew yesterday Saturday and it just got worse with over transmission almost continuously and transmissions from Tangalooma (Moreton Bay) to Rainbow Beach being heard. 126.7 was almost useless at times, especially when the fleet was being launched at DDSC. Once on Xcountry, we changed to 122.7 which was bliss compared but I was still monitoring 126.7 on my hand held and it got better later on in the day but still open mikes. Welcome to the amazing world of 126.7 Mhz. Where I fly, we have a sometimes constant background of useless information from around at least 10 different circuit operations, none of it applicable to our/my own situation. It's not all bad. It's certainly cut down on gliding chatter - no-one can get a word in edgeways, and if they do, there is a fair chance that the audio volume of the radio in the glider they are trying to contact will have been turned down anyway - often verified during the pre-takeoff check by the next pilot. Otherwise there are no identifiable operational benefits from requiring gliding radio ops to go CTAF, and it continues to be a source of smouldering discontent amongst quite a few of our pilots. Finally, Mike B will be surprised to know that I agree with him on more things than I sometimes admit. When he wrote in a later post : Absolutely. 126.7 is almost useless and results in nothing but distraction while flying. Somehow nearly everybody in a power plane has started making departure calls or overflying calls even when well above any circuit traffic and in the absence of any announced traffic making taxiing, line up or inbound calls that might indicate a conflict. I can only agree. Loudly. INDEED VERY LOUDLY! (whoops, sorry) :-[ BTW the GFA board knows about this 126.7 Mhz problem - it gets a mention in board minutes from time to time. On 122.7, there were two presumably glider pilots chatting without call signs, snip. That's pretty standard. Nothing changed there in the last 30 years - only two you say ...? :-) Regards, Terry ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] BORING
At Beverley Soaring Society last Saturday. Lovely streeting lift to 5,500' AMSL (limited by cloudbase). Strong post frontal wind out of the WSW. Had a 75min flight in the DG1000, took my nephew for an introductory flight, had him thermalling (in a fashion) by the end of the flight. Had difficulty coming down due to the strong lift. Much fun had by all. Many thanks to all those who helped run the day. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] LS7 instrument panel
Hi All I am looking for the outside dimensions of an LS6 or LS7 instrument pannel (as far as I can tell they are the same). This will be going into the simulator and will be a CNC cut panel with space for a 8 screen behind and the necessary holes cut out to reveal the instruments. So the hole positions dont really matter, just the outside dimensions. I realise I could just make something up that fits, but I'd rather stick to what it had origionally, mainly because I just like the look of that pannel and it lends itself to having a screen behind it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Tom ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] internet censorship
I see that our Mr Newton has now been officially labelled a Filtering Critic by the Federal Minister Well done!! http://www.misaustralia.com/viewer.aspx?EDP://1225070956310section=news letter The material contained in this email may be confidential, privileged or copyrighted. If you are not the intended recipient, use, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please advise the sender and delete the document. Neither OneSteel nor the sender accept responsibility for any viruses contained in this email or any attachments. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 126.7 congestion
Mike Borgelt wrote: Absolutely. 126.7 is almost useless and results in nothing but distraction while flying. Somehow nearly everybody in a power plane has started making departure calls or overflying calls even when well above any circuit traffic and in the absence of any announced traffic making taxiing, line up or inbound calls that might indicate a conflict. The area frequencies are useless too. I'm thinking of adjusting the squelch thresholds on the BD4 radios as I don't need to hear people doing circuits 100nm away. If you got the open mic sound are you sure the squelch is enabled? Yes it was and I fiddled with to make sure. You don't have interference from other equipment in the glider? Just a Colibri, GPS, a Cambridge and mobile phone. The hiss was intermittent like someone making a transmission and one pilot did say: check your mikes Trouble is, the stuck PTT stops the offender from hearing that!. PeterS This can be frequency specific. While we are on the topic would everyone making calls please be sure they are doing what they say right now. Joining crosswind means just that, not about to join crosswind in one minute. Likewise position in circuit. I think we might have to have individual frequencies for each airport. That too has its problems with people being on the wrong frequency and frequency changes at boundaries. Having learned to fly without a radio and not having had one until I'd been flying for 7 years I find it remarkable that people seem to think that the aircraft won't fly without a radio. When I flew contests I used to turn the radio off after starting much of the time or at any time when I needed to concentrate and turn it back on for the 5Km call. I did better when I did this and there is some evidence that the concentration involved in listening and talking causes narrowing of visual perception. See the studies on mobile phone use while driving. We actually introduced a pretty good system in November 2003 that was was screwed up completely by a combination of vested interests, those who wouldn't accept short term minor disadvantages for long term gains, sheer bastardry and a weak and pathetic Minister. Mike At 10:21 PM 26/10/2008, you wrote: I have just had a week out at Darling Downs, Jondaryan Qld. (DDSC) on 126.7. Even during the week the noise was excessive with what sounds like open mikes almost continually. Not being a radio boffin, is this caused by transmissions from very far away? I flew yesterday Saturday and it just got worse with over transmission almost continuously and transmissions from Tangalooma (Moreton Bay) to Rainbow Beach being heard. 126.7 was almost useless at times, especially when the fleet was being launched at DDSC. Once on Xcountry, we changed to 122.7 which was bliss compared but I was still monitoring 126.7 on my hand held and it got better later on in the day but still open mikes. On 122.7, there were two presumably glider pilots chatting without call signs, unlike our DDSC pilots who were very brief and pertinent. As RAPAC rep for Gliding Qld. and RAPAC South Qld, please give me some feed back for the next meeting on Nov. 19th. PeterS ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] internet censorship
And somebody tried to silence Mark too! Fat chance :-) - Original Message - From: Robinson, Peter B (Information Systems) To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] internet censorship I see that our Mr Newton has now been officially labelled a Filtering Critic by the Federal Minister Well done!! http://www.misaustralia.com/viewer.aspx?EDP://1225070956310section=newsletter -- The material contained in this email may be confidential, privileged or copyrighted. If you are not the intended recipient, use, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please advise the sender and delete the document. Neither OneSteel nor the sender accept responsibility for any viruses contained in this email or any attachments. -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] LS7 instrument panel
Yep, tried that and have the pics from the link you mentioned. Was hoping for something resembling a drawing which I have since been sent, so thank you very much to those who helped out! Tom - Original Message - From: Alan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tom Wilksch' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] LS7 instrument panel Just google Ls 7 Instrument panel You might get http://www.fsglider.de/oldt3m_e.htm and that may help Alan Wilson Canberra -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Wilksch Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 1:05 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] LS7 instrument panel Hi All I am looking for the outside dimensions of an LS6 or LS7 instrument pannel (as far as I can tell they are the same). This will be going into the simulator and will be a CNC cut panel with space for a 8 screen behind and the necessary holes cut out to reveal the instruments. So the hole positions dont really matter, just the outside dimensions. I realise I could just make something up that fits, but I'd rather stick to what it had origionally, mainly because I just like the look of that pannel and it lends itself to having a screen behind it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Tom ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: 18/05/2007 3:50 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: 18/05/2007 3:50 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] internet censorship
I think the way Cathy put it was to say that when Simon was told to talk to Mark, he said Good on ya to Mark! :) 2008/10/27 Christopher Mc Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] And somebody tried to silence Mark too! Fat chance :-) - Original Message - *From:* Robinson, Peter B (Information Systems) [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 1:03 PM *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] internet censorship I see that our Mr Newton has now been officially labelled a Filtering Critic by the Federal Minister Well done!! http://www.misaustralia.com/viewer.aspx?EDP://1225070956310section=newsletter -- The material contained in this email may be confidential, privileged or copyrighted. If you are not the intended recipient, use, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please advise the sender and delete the document. Neither OneSteel nor the sender accept responsibility for any viruses contained in this email or any attachments. -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- timmo you know what i hate timmo errors that wont go away Guilty So you dislike children too ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
