Re: [Aus-soaring] Wave camp Bunyan 22 to 29 Sept

2012-09-16 Thread Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
Tks Mal 

If there are pilots out there who are coming but have not registered their 
interest 
please contact me off line - I like to know how many are coming for logistical 
purposes.

Re the skiing; the resorts are like gamblers, they advertise their gains but 
are silent about
the losses; I was at Perisher last Monday, they had lost a lot in the pervious 
three weeks;
that said its still good for mid September ;)  

Stuart FERGUSON 
Phone - 0419 797508


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 Snow and wave on the way wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
  
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Wave camp Bunyan 22 to 29 Sept

2012-09-16 Thread Michael Scutter
Matthew Michael and Claire scutter are coming

Michael

On 16/09/2012, at 6:49 PM, Stuart  Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Tks Mal 
 
 If there are pilots out there who are coming but have not registered their 
 interest 
 please contact me off line - I like to know how many are coming for 
 logistical purposes.
 
 Re the skiing; the resorts are like gamblers, they advertise their gains but 
 are silent about
 the losses; I was at Perisher last Monday, they had lost a lot in the 
 pervious three weeks;
 that said its still good for mid September ;)  
 
 Stuart FERGUSON 
 Phone - 0419 797508
 
 
 On 16/09/2012, at 18:44, Mal Bruce m...@mals.net wrote:
 
 Snow and wave on the way wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
  
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Re: [Aus-soaring] B500 wanted

2012-09-16 Thread Peter (PCS3)

http://www.glidersales.com.au/instruments.php

On 13/09/2012 10:19 AM, Tim Shirley wrote:

Hi all,

Wanted - Borgelt B500.  In order to standardise Club glider 
instruments GCV wishes to buy a second-hand Borgelt B500 
vario/averager/final glide computer. Contact Rob Dorning at 
rob...@softdawn.net, or (03) 9489 4298.


If anyone is changing or upgrading from one of these instruments Rob 
would like to hear from you.  Please note, this is a specific request 
for a B500, as it is for a standardisation strategy.


--
Untitled Document

Cheers


  /Tim/

/tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare/



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[Aus-soaring] Next Winter Lectures

2012-09-16 Thread Catherine Conway
Hi Guys

Next SAGA Winter lecture is tomorrow night.

Topics are Oulanding and Glider Preparation.

See you there.

Cath


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[Aus-soaring] Boring

2012-09-16 Thread Adam Woolley
Wow.  Just wow.  What a great weekend.  Just epic soaring conditions.  Amazing 
camaraderie  many more hooked new JAG's!  Both days sporting average climbs of 
5kts to 8,000'QNH under CU filled skies.

Saturday the 15th September.  With the sky looking soarable from 09:30, both 
James 'Dutters' Dutschke, Lisa Turner and I looked skyward while preparing our 
gliders madly.  James arriving from BNE  requiring a rig of his newly acquired 
Open Libelle.  Lisa just going with the flow I think, and myself finishing up 
the weighing of W3 to finalise the Form2.

We finally get airborne with a declared task of Tansey - Ban Ban X - Kingaroy.  
Which was later modified in flight to return home via Kumbia to give a total 
task length of 240km.  Ivan being the gentleman he is, decided to return from 
his task to race around ours - calling before start 8kt climbs around to 7,000' 
for memory.

Weak climbs in the Kingaroy area though, we were slow to climb. 2kts was all 
that was around, so slowly we spiralled to the wisps.  All together in the 
start cylinder we naturally set off at 13:05(!).  Both of the first two climbs, 
4.5kts we ease into the task nicely.  All talking together on routing options, 
we decided to overfly Wondai and link up to a highway (street) to the first 
turn.  The smiles fast growing, the speeds pushing up.  89:1 for a 34km glide 
at 75kts - before coring 7.5kts for a 1000'. 

Around the 1st turn, we take a detour to top up before heading into the 
slightly higher countryside.  Before bouncing along with a couple of 5kt 
climbs.  Dutters, Lisa and I all working nicely together.  All sharing the lead 
and picking nice climbs.  Around the 2nd turn, we take a slightly more curious 
approach.  The sky in the Ban Ban area has some spread out. Once we're up and 
running though, we come up to a big decision point.  Lots of discussion, 
conversing with Ivan up ahead - we somehow managed to split up, due to some 
miscommunication I suppose.

Lisa and I down the Kingaroy valley, Dutters going direct into the lighter CU.  
We note the time, it's time to slow down and be a little more cautious.  We all 
manage to link back up together approaching Kumbia, working nice lines of 
energy in the potentially approaching sea breeze.  Onto final glide, easy.

Thanks very much to Lisa whom provided some valuable coaching advice during the 
flight, had a great time!

W3's stats for the day:  240km @ 111.03km/hr; 5.1kt (20%) climbs; 41:1 for 
16.4km glides at an average cruise speed of 77kts.  Flying 5km extra in task 
deviations.



Sunday the 16th September.  Learning from yesterday, and looking at XCSkies - I 
thought the day would be soarable from 09:30.  With 9 or more gliders making it 
to the grid at 09:25 - it was sure to be a good day.  The task planned on the 
grid, thanks to HK  BB - was a fantastic one for the today.  Though with the 
sky we saw, we could've gone anywhere and had a ball.  8kt climbs around (if 
you jagged one) with 8,000' under CU.

I launched first at 10am, with Dutters, Rhys Porter  Lisa Turner soon to 
follow - I'd climbed easily to 4,500' in 2kts.  The whole local area was 
peppered with small CU, each of them were working.  Once we were all up 
together, there wasn't going to be any waiting around for the big wings (VIT, 
HK, BB).  

The task:  Cecil City - Chinchilla - Murgon - Kingaroy = 406km

The first leg was rather pleasant and uneventful, crossing the bunya's with 
ease.  Up ahead from Bell onwards, the sky over Dalby to Cecil city looks like 
it's going to rain!  Staying high, we use the energy lines where we can - 
running the downwind edge of the clouds.  James and I take one weak climb to 
stay connected, before putting the running shoes back on.  Lisa had taken a 
route more Dalby way, cruising along nicely I saw.  

Turning for Chinchilla, across wind now.  There were no real classic streeting 
options to go for, so just one cloud after another.  I made an error, chasing 
some CU's to the west of track - before finally getting into the lower height 
bands again and having to diverge back towards the original direct track (out 
landing options to allow me to drive low if need be).  Dutters and I had gotten 
split up prior to the 1st turn, so I radioed to him that it'd be best to race 
down the direct track.

We manage to get back together overhead Kogan, was great to see you off my 
wingtip then mate!  Sadly though, it wasn't to last, after just 5 minutes of 
cruising we were separated enough to have to fly our own races for a while.  I 
jagged a 7.9kt climb just around the Chinchilla turn, before blasting off at 
cloud base. 

From here, is where the fun really began.  Long streets were starting to line 
up, the key - get nice climbs just before connection and it was all systems go. 
 Miss the first climb, things could've got interesting.  Why?  The terrain 
wasn't to friendly.  Thankfully it was all in our favour, as we bounced along 
close to base - linking some nice 

[Aus-soaring] Groan…

2012-09-16 Thread DMcD
Oh no! The September issue of Rigid Wing Gliding Australia has another
pic taken with a camera stuck on a wing.

Am I the only one who finds this sort of picture dull and
unimaginative? Admittedly, it is slightly less dull than having to
endure a video of the same thing. Especially where the perpetrator has
forgotten that you can edit out the boring bits… though I guess that
would effectively delete the entire video.

Maybe this shot was used because all the others done in the same
session had already been used? Maybe it was used because the Vulcan
bomber area of white wing was useful to strip in the Uvalde pic?

In most areas of (sport) photography, the idea is to get an image
which is new and shows a fresh aspect of the subject. Somehow we seem
to be stuck in this rut where gluing a camera to a wing is considered
amazing.

The Skies Call books must have been released in the late '70s and
set the benchmark for outstanding aerial photography. Somehow most
gliding pix fail to come close to this standard. If gliding is more
interesting than photographing it, fine… lets go back to a plain
roneographed mag… otherwise, let's up the standard!

D

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Groan…

2012-09-16 Thread tom claffey
Problem solved,   send in some of yours! ;)
Tom




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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Groan…
 
Oh no! The September issue of Rigid Wing Gliding Australia has another
pic taken with a camera stuck on a wing.

Am I the only one who finds this sort of picture dull and
unimaginative? Admittedly, it is slightly less dull than having to
endure a video of the same thing. Especially where the perpetrator has
forgotten that you can edit out the boring bits… though I guess that
would effectively delete the entire video.

Maybe this shot was used because all the others done in the same
session had already been used? Maybe it was used because the Vulcan
bomber area of white wing was useful to strip in the Uvalde pic?

In most areas of (sport) photography, the idea is to get an image
which is new and shows a fresh aspect of the subject. Somehow we seem
to be stuck in this rut where gluing a camera to a wing is considered
amazing.

The Skies Call books must have been released in the late '70s and
set the benchmark for outstanding aerial photography. Somehow most
gliding pix fail to come close to this standard. If gliding is more
interesting than photographing it, fine… lets go back to a plain
roneographed mag… otherwise, let's up the standard!

D

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Groan…

2012-09-16 Thread DMcD
Agreed.  DIY is the best solution. I've had perhaps half a dozen cover
pix published as well as others in books and calendars.

That's not the point though. The point was about the anaesthetic
nature of pictures taken from an angle or point of view which somehow
reduces the nature of the subject.

The Skies Call books were done pre-photoshop so the opportunity to
disappear camera support rigs was limited. However the excitement of
the pictures and the obvious fun that the participants were having was
enough to (almost) make me take up the sport.

There are plenty of other good and bad examples. EG, surfboard mounted
camera shots compared with the immortal stuff produced by George
Greenough.

Can you say that about wing mounted camera shots?

Actually, more boring than a wing mounted camera, is a tailplane
mounted camera and even more boring that that, a video of same.

D


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 Problem solved,   send in some of yours! ;)
 Tom



 
  From: DMcD slutsw...@gmail.com
 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:02 AM
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Groan…

 Oh no! The September issue of Rigid Wing Gliding Australia has another
 pic taken with a camera stuck on a wing.

 Am I the only one who finds this sort of picture dull and
 unimaginative? Admittedly, it is slightly less dull than having to
 endure a video of the same thing. Especially where the perpetrator has
 forgotten that you can edit out the boring bits… though I guess that
 would effectively delete the entire video.

 Maybe this shot was used because all the others done in the same
 session had already been used? Maybe it was used because the Vulcan
 bomber area of white wing was useful to strip in the Uvalde pic?

 In most areas of (sport) photography, the idea is to get an image
 which is new and shows a fresh aspect of the subject. Somehow we seem
 to be stuck in this rut where gluing a camera to a wing is considered
 amazing.

 The Skies Call books must have been released in the late '70s and
 set the benchmark for outstanding aerial photography. Somehow most
 gliding pix fail to come close to this standard. If gliding is more
 interesting than photographing it, fine… lets go back to a plain
 roneographed mag… otherwise, let's up the standard!

 D

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Something to make you laugh, Ozzie IFR waypoint fun, this is true!

2012-09-16 Thread Mark Newton
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 02:47:30PM +0800, Texler, Michael wrote:

  Look in the Airservices Austrlia designated airspace book:
  http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/dah/dah.pdf

Near the top right corner of South Australia, you can plan IFR via
PUDYA SWEED LIPPS ALIDL CLOZA TOUDA PHONE.

  - mark
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Groan.Perceptions of gliding from the ground

2012-09-16 Thread Texler, Michael
 If gliding is more interesting than photographing it,

Here is my contribution, title Perceptions of gliding from the ground.
A timeless study in three colours (if you include white as a colour).

The glider is the white dot under the middle cloud.

I think this picture captures how most (non) people see gliding.
This picture is lucky because most days the gliders are too far away to
see...

Fly safe, have fun...
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Groan.Perceptions of gliding from the ground

2012-09-16 Thread Adam Woolley
Too true - unless you get the bug (by actually turning up to the field for a 
joy flight/TIF, and then pushing through the many hurdles that gliding clubs 
put at the new student/solo pilot to get to an XC level), gliding will never be 
interesting or viewable (in media) to the general public.

Thankfully I have the bug, it's an exhilarating sport for me - every flight 
presents a new adventure, challenge to overcome and great camaraderie in the 
after flight discussions!  Just got to convince AUS gliding to allow 'Pair* 
Flying at competitions now - and it'll become even more enjoyable for self :)

*Note:  Pair is the key word used.  I didn't use 'Team' as this could allow 
another Horsham event to happen.


WPP
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On 17/09/2012, at 2:47 PM, Texler, Michael wrote:

 If gliding is more interesting than photographing it,
 
 Here is my contribution, title Perceptions of gliding from the ground.
 A timeless study in three colours (if you include white as a colour).
 
 The glider is the white dot under the middle cloud.
 
 I think this picture captures how most (non) people see gliding.
 This picture is lucky because most days the gliders are too far away to
 see...
 
 Fly safe, have fun...
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