Re: [AusNOG] Access to Google .au services

[Benjamin Ricardo]

Hi All,
Thanks for the responses. Feeling a bit unlucky here!
It appears that we are fine if we flush all our DNS entries here and pick up a 
different IP for google.
We definitely get no responses from 216.58.199.35 though – but I never liked 
that server anyway. ☺

Thanks all for the quick response.

Ben



From: Jake Anderson [mailto:ya...@vapourforge.com]
Sent: Monday, 3 July 2017 3:33 PM
To: Benjamin Ricardo ;  

Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Access to Google .au services

Seems ok on TPG EFM in sydney.

traceroute to google.com.au (172.217.25.163), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1
 2  202-161-107-13.static.tpgi.com.au (202.161.107.13)  2.353 ms  2.361 ms  
2.359 ms
 3  203-221-3-6.tpgi.com.au (203.221.3.6)  4.684 ms  4.751 ms  4.748 ms
 4  203-219-106-250.tpgi.com.au (203.219.106.250)  2.763 ms  2.974 ms  2.971 ms
 5  108.170.247.65 (108.170.247.65)  3.297 ms  3.455 ms 108.170.247.33 
(108.170.247.33)  4.158 ms
 6  108.170.235.193 (108.170.235.193)  3.778 ms 108.170.235.195 
(108.170.235.195)  3.770 ms 108.170.235.193 (108.170.235.193)  3.880 ms
 7  syd09s13-in-f163.1e100.net (172.217.25.163)  3.774 ms  2.731 ms  3.498 ms

wget google.com.au gives the page.


On 03/07/17 15:13, Benjamin Ricardo wrote:
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else is having issues reaching googles .au services?
We can resolve but not ping them.

Our upstream (as you can see is TPG) – seems we actually get into the Google 
network but that’s it.

Tracing route to google.com.au [216.58.199.35]
Trace from our subnet 103.12.159.0/24 is as follows:
  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms
  2 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  acs-asn-gw.acs.net.au [103.12.159.1]
  3 *** Request timed out.
  4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms  po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.198]
  5 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms  syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.197]
  6 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms  syd-apt-ros-crt1-he-0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au 
[203.29.134.65]
  7 3 ms 6 ms 6 ms  203-219-107-82.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.82]
  8 5 ms26 ms 5 ms  203-219-35-132.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.35.132]
  9 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms  203-219-107-6.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.107.6]
10 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  108.170.247.33
11 9 ms 4 ms 4 ms  209.85.243.145
12 *** Request timed out.
13 *** Request timed out.

Thanks for any further info you can provide

Ben


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Re: [AusNOG] Access to Google .au services

[Jake Anderson]

Seems ok on TPG EFM in sydney.

traceroute to google.com.au (172.217.25.163), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1
 2  202-161-107-13.static.tpgi.com.au (202.161.107.13)  2.353 ms 2.361 
ms  2.359 ms

 3  203-221-3-6.tpgi.com.au (203.221.3.6)  4.684 ms  4.751 ms 4.748 ms
 4  203-219-106-250.tpgi.com.au (203.219.106.250)  2.763 ms  2.974 ms  
2.971 ms
 5  108.170.247.65 (108.170.247.65)  3.297 ms  3.455 ms 108.170.247.33 
(108.170.247.33)  4.158 ms
 6  108.170.235.193 (108.170.235.193)  3.778 ms 108.170.235.195 
(108.170.235.195)  3.770 ms 108.170.235.193 (108.170.235.193) 3.880 ms
 7  syd09s13-in-f163.1e100.net (172.217.25.163)  3.774 ms  2.731 ms  
3.498 ms


wget google.com.au gives the page.


On 03/07/17 15:13, Benjamin Ricardo wrote:


Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone else is having issues reaching googles .au 
services?


We can resolve but not ping them.

Our upstream (as you can see is TPG) – seems we actually get into the 
Google network but that’s it.


Tracing route to google.com.au [216.58.199.35]

Trace from our subnet 103.12.159.0/24 is as follows:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms

  2 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms acs-asn-gw.acs.net.au [103.12.159.1]

  3 *** Request timed out.

  4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au 
[202.10.14.198]


  5 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.197]


  6 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms syd-apt-ros-crt1-he-0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au 
[203.29.134.65]


  7 3 ms 6 ms 6 ms 203-219-107-82.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.82]


  8 5 ms26 ms 5 ms 203-219-35-132.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.35.132]


  9 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 203-219-107-6.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.6]


10 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms 108.170.247.33

11 9 ms 4 ms 4 ms 209.85.243.145

12 *** Request timed out.

13 *** Request timed out.

Thanks for any further info you can provide

Ben

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Re: [AusNOG] Access to Google .au services

[Joseph Goldman]

Working fine from here, accessing via MegaIX in Sydney.

On 03/07/17 15:13, Benjamin Ricardo wrote:


Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone else is having issues reaching googles .au 
services?


We can resolve but not ping them.

Our upstream (as you can see is TPG) – seems we actually get into the 
Google network but that’s it.


Tracing route to google.com.au [216.58.199.35]

Trace from our subnet 103.12.159.0/24 is as follows:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms

  2 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms acs-asn-gw.acs.net.au [103.12.159.1]

  3 *** Request timed out.

  4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au 
[202.10.14.198]


  5 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.197]


  6 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms syd-apt-ros-crt1-he-0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au 
[203.29.134.65]


  7 3 ms 6 ms 6 ms 203-219-107-82.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.82]


  8 5 ms26 ms 5 ms 203-219-35-132.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.35.132]


  9 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 203-219-107-6.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.6]


10 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms 108.170.247.33

11 9 ms 4 ms 4 ms 209.85.243.145

12 *** Request timed out.

13 *** Request timed out.

Thanks for any further info you can provide

Ben

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[AusNOG] Access to Google .au services

[Benjamin Ricardo]

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else is having issues reaching googles .au services?
We can resolve but not ping them.

Our upstream (as you can see is TPG) - seems we actually get into the Google 
network but that's it.

Tracing route to google.com.au [216.58.199.35]
Trace from our subnet 103.12.159.0/24 is as follows:
  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms
  2 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  acs-asn-gw.acs.net.au [103.12.159.1]
  3 *** Request timed out.
  4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms  po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.198]
  5 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms  syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.197]
  6 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms  syd-apt-ros-crt1-he-0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au 
[203.29.134.65]
  7 3 ms 6 ms 6 ms  203-219-107-82.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.107.82]
  8 5 ms26 ms 5 ms  203-219-35-132.static.tpgi.com.au 
[203.219.35.132]
  9 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms  203-219-107-6.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.107.6]
10 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  108.170.247.33
11 9 ms 4 ms 4 ms  209.85.243.145
12 *** Request timed out.
13 *** Request timed out.

Thanks for any further info you can provide

Ben


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Re: [AusNOG] Wise words from Steve Baxter

[David Hughes]

Ah, the good old days.  If you tried that now you’d get a swift kick up the 
butt for implementing an untested change on production kit after coming back 
from the pub  (which is definitely the right outcome :-)



David
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> On 3 Jul 2017, at 12:11 PM, Mark Prior  wrote:
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> 
> Mark.
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Re: [AusNOG] OT? Council Public WiFi ACMA Liability

[Ross Wheeler]

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017, Peter Tiggerdine wrote:


Are they on-selling the service to their customers or providing a free
service? Pretty sure that's the difference


I'm a bit out of the loop nowdays, but I'm sure the wording used to be 
"Provide", not "Sell".


Simply providing the service at no charge does not (or did not) absolve 
you from obligations under the act. Similarly, providing a service "for 
free" did not release you from the obligation (under the act) to be a 
member of the TIO.


There was no minimum distance for wireless like there was for wired links. 
(IIRC, a wire or glass link had to be 500m or more, or cross a property 
boundary while *any* length wireless link qualified)


There were specific inclusions for sites operating "under one roof" - 
example, within a shopping centre or multi-tennant building. You'd 
probably want to seek legal clarification if an "open air area" such as a 
pool comes under the "under one roof" interpretation, or if my memory of 
the exclusion is wrong.


R.
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Re: [AusNOG] OT? Council Public WiFi ACMA Liability

[Mark Currie]

Hi Peter,

It is a FREE public Wifi service only provided within council buildings and 
amenties.

Thanks,
Mark Currie


-Original Message-
From: Peter Tiggerdine [mailto:ptiggerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, 3 July 2017 12:25 PM
To: Mark Currie 
Cc:  
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] OT? Council Public WiFi ACMA Liability

Are they on-selling the service to their customers or providing a free service? 
Pretty sure that's the difference Regards,

Peter Tiggerdine

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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Mark Currie  wrote:
> Hi Noggers,
>
>
>
> Sorry if slightly,  OT, but not sure who else to ask for a quick 
> answer/opinion.
>
>
>
> Just had a question from a local council we are providing some Wifi 
> kit for a semi public Wifi service (only within council buildings such as 
> pool etc).
>
>
>
> “A question was raised to us this morning in regards to the public 
> WiFi tender and our legal grounds as a carrier based on the 
> telecommunications act.
> I'm a little dubious on it (If its actually a valid concern or not).”
>
>
>
> Does anyone out there know what the liability of a local ouncil would 
> be in relation to the act and the ACMA, and if they would/could be 
> regarded as a carrier?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Currie
>
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Re: [AusNOG] OT? Council Public WiFi ACMA Liability

[Peter Tiggerdine]

Are they on-selling the service to their customers or providing a free
service? Pretty sure that's the difference
Regards,

Peter Tiggerdine

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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Mark Currie  wrote:
> Hi Noggers,
>
>
>
> Sorry if slightly,  OT, but not sure who else to ask for a quick
> answer/opinion.
>
>
>
> Just had a question from a local council we are providing some Wifi kit for
> a semi public Wifi service (only within council buildings such as pool etc).
>
>
>
> “A question was raised to us this morning in regards to the public WiFi
> tender and our legal grounds as a carrier based on the telecommunications
> act.
> I'm a little dubious on it (If its actually a valid concern or not).”
>
>
>
> Does anyone out there know what the liability of a local ouncil would be in
> relation to the act and the ACMA, and if they would/could be regarded as a
> carrier?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Currie
>
>
>
>
>
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[AusNOG] Wise words from Steve Baxter

[Mark Prior]

Mark.

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Re: [AusNOG] mybill.foxtel.com.au DNS records

[Chad Kelly]

On 7/2/2017 12:00 PM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net wrote:

Thanks Jason,

I think the DNS resolving issues is related to the fact that the name
servers for mybill.foxtel.com.au are pointing to it's own domain
ns1.foxtel.com.au, and nameserver ns1.telstra.net which has only 1 record
for it, NS dns01.foxtel.com.au which does not resolve either.

Yes its that missing nameserver that is the issue.
intodns.com report can be found at
https://intodns.com/mybill.foxtel.com.au
Having nameservers listed with your domain is fine but all the info 
needs to match up.

Regards Chad.


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CPK Web Services
Phone 03 5273 0246
Web www.cpkws.com.au

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