Re: [authors] Help needed re Quickstarter for Linux
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: [cut] Peter or anyone, can you point me to instructions on how to enable the Quickstarter in Linux? I'm using OOo2.1 (downloaded from OOo website) on Ubuntu 6.06 (Gnome desktop) on an Intel system. In Tools Options OpenOffice.org Memory, the checkbox for Enable systray quickstarter is greyed out. If it's going to work it's not greyed out. I haven't performed any special actions to enable it, so maybe Debian does (or doesn't do) something that Ubuntu has disabled. As I said, I'm still at the poking around stage, but I will report anything useful. Peter HB
Re: [authors] Mailing list
Hi Leo, CPHennessy schreef: On Friday 05 January 2007 23:39, Leo Moons wrote: Hello, We are considering to create a mailing list for the Dutch speaking Authors-community, so we will not have to bother you with how many chapters we have already translated ;-) . (I hope you did not mind too much) Of course we will stay tuned with the English mailinglist to keep track of what is happening. But before we decide to do so, can somebody give some guidelines how we have to do and how much time it takes to maintain such a mailinglist. I also suppose such a list needs to be moderated and how does that go? The easiest is probably to create a list in the nl.ooo domain - the owner of that project can do this. Setting up a list takes less than a minute. Do you want me to create a list as part of nl.openoffice.org? Moderating the list is possible but probably not necessary. If it becomes necessary (for example because of abuse) you can start moderating it. How about [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards/Groeten, Arthur Buijs Co-lead NL.OpenOffice.org Open software is a joy forever! http://nl.openoffice.org #nl.openoffice.org (irc.freenode.net)
Re: [authors] Mailing list
Hallo Arthur, Thanks for your mail and for the offer. I was still checking the pro's against the cons, and reading the thread [users] Forced Registration For This List (was Re: [users] Return receipts). I was about to decide to have a go for it, as this will make sure everybody involved can follow the discussions. Before going ahead, I would like to have some more information how it works (from the 'Owner's site'. ;-) Thanks again Best regards Arthur Buijs schreef: Hi Leo, CPHennessy schreef: On Friday 05 January 2007 23:39, Leo Moons wrote: Hello, We are considering to create a mailing list for the Dutch speaking Authors-community, so we will not have to bother you with how many chapters we have already translated ;-) . (I hope you did not mind too much) Of course we will stay tuned with the English mailinglist to keep track of what is happening. But before we decide to do so, can somebody give some guidelines how we have to do and how much time it takes to maintain such a mailinglist. I also suppose such a list needs to be moderated and how does that go? The easiest is probably to create a list in the nl.ooo domain - the owner of that project can do this. Setting up a list takes less than a minute. Do you want me to create a list as part of nl.openoffice.org? Moderating the list is possible but probably not necessary. If it becomes necessary (for example because of abuse) you can start moderating it. How about [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Leo Moons nl.OpenOffice.org OooAuthors/nl Nous sommes condamnés à être libres
Re: [authors] Help needed re Quickstarter for Linux
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: [cut] I'm still working on this, Jean. The Quickstarter (OOo 2.0.4) functions correctly on my Intel systems, but doesn't on an AMD Athlon 64 running an Intel 486 kernel. All these systems are running under Debian Etch (testing) with Gnome presently. [cut] Having said the above, I upgraded to OO.o 2.1 on an Intel machine this afternoon and Quickstarter selection is greyed out!!! I also lost Gnome menu integration, so there may be a linkage here. Perhaps using 'alien' to convert from the released rpms triggers a problem? How did you obtain the packages for installation under ubuntu, Jean? Peter HB
[authors] masterdocs rev.
Hi Jean, * while revising the new masterdocs chapter I found a typo: on page 8, paragraph 2/2) it says Use *File Paste Special* to avoid copying the styles... where *Edit ...* should be. ;-) And... there's another point on page 20, the landscape chapter: Master documents ignore manual page breaks in subdocuments *if* the manual break specifies the following page style. What do we have here? Is there an issue or is this another 'habit' we got to live with? In this case I'd prefer to find a remark prominently somewhere at the beginning (it got to my nerves recently ;-) ... Thanks for a short feedback - kind regards erich -- ## Erich Christian ## Community Contact PrOOo-Box # # Openoffice.org + Goodies auf CDrom, DVDwww.prooo-box.org # OpenOffice.org, die freie Office Suite http://de.openoffice.org # Mithelfen? Es gibt immer was zu tun - http://oooauthors.org/de
[authors] PING: LEO [NL] Ulpoaded reviewed file 0107GS-EersteStappenMetCalc_070107_LMO_JB.odt
Sorry. The name went wrong. The first 3 characters disappeared. Regards, Jan Brul
Re: [authors] Help needed re Quickstarter for Linux
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: [cut] I'm still working on this, Jean. The Quickstarter (OOo 2.0.4) functions correctly on my Intel systems, but doesn't on an AMD Athlon 64 running an Intel 486 kernel. All these systems are running under Debian Etch (testing) with Gnome presently. [cut] Having said the above, I upgraded to OO.o 2.1 on an Intel machine this afternoon and Quickstarter selection is greyed out!!! I also lost Gnome menu integration, so there may be a linkage here. Perhaps using 'alien' to convert from the released rpms triggers a problem? How did you obtain the packages for installation under ubuntu, Jean? As I mentioned in my original note, I downloaded the file from the main OOo website. I didn't use 'alien' to convert it... or if I did, I wasn't aware of doing that. I used the following set of instructions that Daniel Carrera gave me some time ago, which may use alien without my knowing it. 1. Extract the OOo download from the file browser GUI. [Jean's note: I use archive manager to do this.] 2. Open a terminal and 'cd' to the directory with all the RPM files. 3. Run this: for i in *.rpm; do rpm2cpio $i|cpio -idm /dev/null; done --Jean
Re: [authors] masterdocs rev.
Erich Christian wrote: while revising the new masterdocs chapter I found a typo: on page 8, paragraph 2/2) it says Use *File Paste Special* to avoid copying the styles... where *Edit ...* should be. ;-) Thank you! I will fix that. And... there's another point on page 20, the landscape chapter: Master documents ignore manual page breaks in subdocuments *if* the manual break specifies the following page style. What do we have here? Is there an issue or is this another 'habit' we got to live with? In this case I'd prefer to find a remark prominently somewhere at the beginning (it got to my nerves recently ;-) ... Thanks for a short feedback - This is issue 34475, filed by me on 21 Sep 2004 (over 2 years ago), which is marked as a duplicate of issue 14253 (dated 8 May 2003!) and set to target OOoLater due to lack of resources. Issue 14253 has 3 votes; you might want to add your vote. Meanwhile, unless someone has discovered a workaround, we'll just have to live with this problem. --Jean
[authors] 2Nnd Proofreading of 0109GS-StartenMetImpres
2nd proofreading of 0109GS-StartenMetImpress_070105_DG_HCB.odt mvg JanBr
Re: [authors] masterdocs rev.
Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber schrieb: [#34475] Meanwhile, unless someone has discovered a workaround, we'll just have to live with this problem. Thanks for your decent infos however! erich :-)
Re: [authors] Help needed re Quickstarter for Linux
Thomas Hackert wrote: Hello Peter, *, [cut] my experience with converted RPMs are ... bad ... :( I prefer DEBs like Pavel's from ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org, but I am using Debian SID here ... ;) Very nice looking site, but I couldn't find an English version, nor even an American one:-) The Debian Sid repositories have 2.1, but caution that it might be very unstable and shouldn't be used productively. [cut] Although I am not Jean, I found this via Google: http://diuf.unifr.ch/pai/people/broccoa/deb/oo2.1/all.zip. But I am not sure, if this is the 32- or 64bit version of OOo and if you can use the 32bit version on your 64bit system without any problem ... :( I think it's the 32 bit version and I'm downloading it as I write this. As yet I haven't found a good enough reason to go to a 64 bit system, so my hardware is somewhat underused:-) Thanks a lot for the information; I'll report on success (or otherwise) Peter HB
Re: [authors] Ping! Chapter 1 WG edits
Thanks again to Gary for showing how it should be done. I am dismayed that my manual, and even automatic, methods are not yet working very well. I'll keep practicing. (more) Gary Schnabl wrote: Edited WG Chapter 1 is located at: http://oooauthors.org/en/authors/userguide2/writer/0201WG-IntroducingWriter_GS.odt Raw edit: no edits were accepted. Maintainer or proofer can accept them. Some manual overrides of character styles were still present. I should have put a note on the paragraph just above Figure 1. The last two sentences (starting with the reference to Figure 1) show a character style of OOoStrongEmphasis for all text, but most of the text is (quite properly) not bolded. Gary fixed the menu path. In WordPerfect, I would fix such a thing, but OOW lacks such an embedded formats view of the text, AFAIK. /tj The graphic for closing Writer near the end of the chapter use the blue and red Windows XP theme. Maybe, these should be changed to another theme. Gary -- TJFrazier
[authors] Impress Guide Chapter 3, Inserting and Formatting Text
I have edited Michele Zarri's additions and revisions to my earlier draft and uploaded a new version: http://oooauthors.org/en/authors/userguide2/impress/feedback/0503IG_AddingFormattingText_6Jan07_MZ_JHW.odt This chapter would benefit from review by someone else at this point, before Michele has another go at it. Others may notice things that we've missed, or have questions that aren't answered. Please help as a reviewer, if you can. If you aren't familiar with presentations, that's okay; much of the audience for this book won't know much about them either, so if the explanations make sense to you, that's good! If you are familiar with presentations, then you may spot different problems in the draft. Either way, the book benefits. Michele is doing a really great job on the Impress Guide, and so quickly that I am hard pressed to keep up. Three cheers for Michele! --Jean
Re: [authors] Ping! Chapter 1 WG edits
BTW, I changed the OOoComputerCode style from the Courier font to Courier New. Courier is God-awful ugly compared to Courier New. Some worthless exposition: The US State Department recently switched its official font from Courier New 12 to Times New Roman 14, which it stated was more modern and legible... Gary T. J. Frazier wrote: Thanks again to Gary for showing how it should be done. I am dismayed that my manual, and even automatic, methods are not yet working very well. I'll keep practicing. (more) Gary Schnabl wrote: Edited WG Chapter 1 is located at: http://oooauthors.org/en/authors/userguide2/writer/0201WG-IntroducingWriter_GS.odt Raw edit: no edits were accepted. Maintainer or proofer can accept them. Some manual overrides of character styles were still present. I should have put a note on the paragraph just above Figure 1. The last two sentences (starting with the reference to Figure 1) show a character style of OOoStrongEmphasis for all text, but most of the text is (quite properly) not bolded. Gary fixed the menu path. In WordPerfect, I would fix such a thing, but OOW lacks such an embedded formats view of the text, AFAIK. /tj The graphic for closing Writer near the end of the chapter use the blue and red Windows XP theme. Maybe, these should be changed to another theme. Gary
Re: [authors] Ping! Chapter 1 WG edits
T. J. Frazier wrote: I should have put a note on the paragraph just above Figure 1. The last two sentences (starting with the reference to Figure 1) show a character style of OOoStrongEmphasis for all text, but most of the text is (quite properly) not bolded. Gary fixed the menu path. In WordPerfect, I would fix such a thing, but OOW lacks such an embedded formats view of the text, AFAIK. /tj When the Styles and Formatting window or the toolbar shows a style name which appears differently from what it should be, then convert all of the badly-named text to the Default character style first and then set it again--correctly. Those were probably multiple manual overrides--Who knows (or cares) how that effect was originally achieved? Just get rid of it and redo it right. I referred to some manual overrides in the past as Gremlins because of their weird behavior in older documents which were reedited. For these, sometimes the entire (or several multiple) paragraphs have to be reverted to the Default style before the correct style would take hold. Some older docs took hours to change to their proper styles. Gary
[authors] Styles and fonts (was: Chapter 1 WG edits)
Gary Schnabl wrote: BTW, I changed the OOoComputerCode style from the Courier font to Courier New. Courier is God-awful ugly compared to Courier New. Courier also causes problems when I upload the PDFs for the printed version to Lulu, because Courier is not on the list of fonts they take without full embedding of the font (Courier New is accepted by Lulu without fuss). Similarly, Times is a problem font with Lulu, but Times New Roman is not. Times is OOo's default for several things including the text in callouts and figure labels produced using the drawing tools, so if proofreaders could check the fonts used in callouts, that would be good. I don't think we have a style for the text used in callouts; if not, we probably need one. I prefer Arial 10pt for callouts and labels. Another place that Times appears is as the default font for the index. I need to change our template so that the Index1, Index2, and Index3 paragraph styles use Times New Roman, not Times. The spacing for index paragraphs needs to be changed too; the default is to add some space after, but that should be removed. Since we have not previously had an index (other than in the printed copies of some of the books), this has not been an issue before. It's just one more thing (of many) that I have not got around to doing. --Jean
Re: [authors] Help needed re Quickstarter for Linux
Hello Jean, *, On Sunday 07 January 2007 22:06, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote: my experience with converted RPMs are ... bad ... :( I prefer DEBs like Pavel's from ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org I also prefer the DEBs and had good luck with one of Pavel's in the past, but I did not see on the list any file that looked like an English version to me. Maybe I don't know what to look for. they are in the ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/2.1/OOo_2.1.0rc2_native_LinuxIntel_langpacks_deb and ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/2.1/OOo_2.1.0rc2_native_LinuxX86-64_langpacks_deb for 64bit architecture ... But I do not know, which package/language you can use from ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/2.1 ... :( How did you obtain the packages for installation under ubuntu, Jean? Although I am not Jean, I found this via Google: http://diuf.unifr.ch/pai/people/broccoa/deb/oo2.1/all.zip That looks potentially useful. I don't intend to try to change the installation I have now, because it seems to work fine for me other than this one problem of the Quickstarter, which I don't want anyway (other than for documentation purposes). I do not use the Quickstarter, too ... Of course, there could be other problems that I haven't discovered. ;-) Maybe ... ;) Have fun Thomas. -- BOFH excuse #193: Did you pay the new Support Fee?
Re: [authors] Help needed re Quickstarter for Linux
Hello Peter, *, On Sunday 07 January 2007 23:23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote: [cut] my experience with converted RPMs are ... bad ... :( I prefer DEBs like Pavel's from ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org, but I am using Debian SID here ... ;) Very nice looking site, but I couldn't find an English version, nor even an American one:-) in the past they were in the main folder (ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/2.1), but for whatever reason they are now in the ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/2.1/OOo_2.1.0rc2_native_LinuxX86-64_langpacks_deb folder. But I do not know, which language you should choose to install the langpacks :( The Debian Sid repositories have 2.1, but caution that it might be very unstable and shouldn't be used productively. This applies to Sid, too ... ;) [cut] Although I am not Jean, I found this via Google: http://diuf.unifr.ch/pai/people/broccoa/deb/oo2.1/all.zip. But I am not sure, if this is the 32- or 64bit version of OOo and if you can use the 32bit version on your 64bit system without any problem ... :( I think it's the 32 bit version and I'm downloading it as I write this. As yet I haven't found a good enough reason to go to a 64 bit system, so my hardware is somewhat underused:-) G Thanks a lot for the information; I'll report on success (or otherwise) Good luck :) Thomas. -- I'm continually AMAZED at th'breathtaking effects of WIND EROSION!!
