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* International Conference- Water India 4- Water Resources Development- Flood 
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Re: SUBDIR_OBJECTS option

2003-12-30 Thread Tom Tromey
 John == jling  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John I read in one thread the mention of a SUBDIR_OBJECTS option in 
John automake.  Supposedly this would prevent intermediate object files from 
John ending up in the directory of the Makefile (I'm trying to use a non-
John recursive Makefile.am).

John Where and how is this option to be specified?

Put `subdir-objects' into the AUTOMAKE_OPTIONS variable in Makefile.am.
See the manual for this and other information...

Tom




Re: automake -vs- huge projects

2003-12-30 Thread Tom Tromey
 adl == Alexandre Duret-Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

adl I've found this:
adl 1999-11-22  Tom Tromey  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
adl * automake.in (handle_single_transform_list): Generate explicit
adl rule for subdir objects.  Fixes new addition to subobj.test.

I looked into this a bit today.  One nice thing about having a patch
list is that it records the rationale for changes somewhere... back in
those days that sort of information was just lost.  Sigh.

I suppose the best we can hope for is to try out your change on a
different platforms and in different scenarios and hope for the
best...

Tom




mailing list archives (Was: Re: automake -vs- huge projects)

2003-12-30 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
 Tom == Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

 Tom I looked into this a bit today.  One nice thing about having a patch
 Tom list is that it records the rationale for changes somewhere... back in
 Tom those days that sort of information was just lost.  Sigh.

I thought so, until I discovered that mailing list archives at
mail.gnu.org had been truncated on 2000-09.  I have a copy of
the archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 1998-04 on my disk (it
contains a lengthy discussion about --enable-maintainer-mode)
which I downloaded from mail.gnu.org and which is not available
there anymore.

Fortunately, [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been archived at several
places.  FWIW, here is where to dig copies of old mails sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  mail.gnu.org2000-09 ... today
  www.geocrawler.com  1997... 2002
  gmane.org   2002-03 ... today
  sources.redhat.com  1999-04 ... today

For [EMAIL PROTECTED], it worse since AFAIK, it's only
archived at mail.gnu.org and gmane.org.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] is also archived on sourceware, but the
archives start at 1999-04.  I've just discovered that
http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/GNU/403/0/ seems to cover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for 1997-2002.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is only archived at mail.gnu.org and
gmane.org.  It is quite young so the mail.gnu.org archive is
complete, however I fear the day it will be cut.

[...]

-- 
Alexandre Duret-Lutz





Re: mailing list archives (Was: Re: automake -vs- huge projects)

2003-12-30 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is only archived at mail.gnu.org and
 gmane.org.  It is quite young so the mail.gnu.org archive is
 complete, however I fear the day it will be cut.

any idea what fraction of the archive is spam?

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net




Re: automake -vs- huge projects (1st patch)

2003-12-30 Thread Thomas Fitzsimmons
On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 21:25, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:
  adl == Alexandre Duret-Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [...]
  adl 1999-11-22  Tom Tromey  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  adl 
  adl * automake.in (handle_single_transform_list): Generate explicit
  adl rule for subdir objects.  Fixes new addition to subobj.test.
 [...]
  adl The other side of the coin is that dependency tracking will not
  adl work anymore, because the dependency stuff for subdir/X.o should
  adl go into subdir/.deps/X.Po but the default suffix rule will put
  adl it in ./.deps/subdir/X.Po.
 [...]
  Tom Hmm, maybe this is the issue from way back.
 
  adl I'm not sure about this.  In the past dependencies were put in
  adl .deps/subdir/X.Po (i.e. where the suffix rule--at least
  adl today--would put them).  You moved them to subdir/.deps/X.Po on
  adl 2002-01-20 for PR/224.
 
 I've just noticed that the above change of 1999-11-22 occurs
 just after the merge of user-dep-gen-branch.  So perhaps you
 were right to think the issue was related to dependency
 tracking...
 
 Anyway, here is a first patch that disables explicit rules for
 subdir-objects without per-target flags.
 
 Random notes:
   - folding the depfiletmpdepfile computation into depcomp shorten
 the screen garbage resulting from the invocation of depcomp
 by one line.  This applies to all non-fastdep compilation,
 not only subdir-objects.
   - computing $depbase on-the-fly in fastdep rules adds one line
 of output, so I've arranged things so that it is only used
 when subdir-objects is set.  
   - the test suite passes with GNU Make, and I've run the 14 tests
 that uses subdir-objects with BSD Make (will start a full
 check momently).  Apart from this I have not yet tested this
 on a real project.  I'm hoping you can test this on libgcj.
   - If you omit the NEWS chunk, the patch should also apply to
 automake-1.8 vanilla.

I tested this patch with libgcj.  A test build worked fine, and
Makefile.in is *much* smaller (1.4M as opposed to 10M).  The size could
still be reduced further though.  I discussed the following with Tom on
IRC:

- all libgcj objects are listed in am__libgcj_la_SOURCES_DIST which is
included in DIST_SOURCES.  Adding the no-dist option doesn't prevent the
SOURCES_DIST and DIST_SOURCES variables from being generated, even
though they are not used anywhere.  Tom has a patch that may fix this;
I'm going to try it out.

- I've eliminated all non-essential per-target flags, but one libgcj
library still requires them.  For this library, .obj, .o and .lo targets
are generated, where .lo targets alone would suffice.

- Tom suggested that DEP_FILES may be redundant.  He suggested that
configure read the list of .Plo files from the am__include lines in
Makefile.in.

Anyway, this patch brings us closer to using automake-1.8 for libgcj. 
Thanks!

Tom






Re: automake -vs- huge projects

2003-12-30 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
 Ralf == Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ralf On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 17:49, Tom Tromey wrote:
  The problem is, automake generates an explicit rule for each
  compilation.  Our resulting Makefile.in is nearly 9 megabytes.  This
  is really much too large -- compare to 200K with automake 1.4.

 Ralf For subdir-compilation/non-recursive Makefiles automake generates *2*
 Ralf explicit rules (cygwin and n/cygwin) for each compilation. Folding these
 Ralf two rules into one, alone would reduce the size of Makefiles using many
 Ralf files by almost factor 2.

Hmmm.  What we'd need to merge are these:

.c.o:
$(CC) -c -o $@ $
.c.obj:
$(CC) -c -o $@ `$(CYGPATH_W) $`

and these:

sub/foo.o: sub/foo.c
$(CC) -c -o $@ `test -f 'sub/foo.c' || echo '$(srcdir)/'`sub/foo.c

sub/foo.obj: sub/foo.c
$(CC) -c -o $@ `if test -f 'sub/foo.c'; then $(CYGPATH_W) 'sub/foo.c'; else 
$(CYGPATH_W) '$(srcdir)/sub/foo.c'; fi`


The extension is obviously not an issue, but how can we arrange the CYGPATH_W
stuff?   

I've thought about this:

.c.$(OBJEXT):
$(CC) -c -o $@ $(am__cpbegin)$$(am__cpend)
sub/foo.$(OBJEXT): sub/foo.c
src=`test -f 'sub/foo.c' || echo '$(srcdir)/'`sub/foo.c; \
$(CC) -c -o $@ $(am__cpbegin)$$src$(am__cpend)

and then have 
  am__cpbegin = `cygpath -w '
  am__cpend   = '`
or 
  am__cpbegin = '
  am__cpend   = '

but this is not really attractive.

A related question is why we need this `cygpath -w' stuff.
My understanding is that it is to turn special absolute
filenames such as /cygdrive/c/foo into c:\foo
(if this is true, then I think the first use of $(CYGPATH_W) in 
the sub/foo.obj rule is superfluous, since the file is relative)
so that compiler that do not understand cygwin filename can work.

Couldn't this be folded into a compiler wrapper script?
-- 
Alexandre Duret-Lutz





Re: automake -vs- huge projects (1st patch)

2003-12-30 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
 Thomas == Thomas Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

 Thomas The size could still be reduced further though.  I
 Thomas discussed the following with Tom on IRC:

 Thomas - all libgcj objects are listed in
 Thomas am__libgcj_la_SOURCES_DIST which is included in
 Thomas DIST_SOURCES.  Adding the no-dist option doesn't
 Thomas prevent the SOURCES_DIST and DIST_SOURCES variables
 Thomas from being generated, even though they are not used
 Thomas anywhere.  Tom has a patch that may fix this; I'm going
 Thomas to try it out.

 Thomas - I've eliminated all non-essential per-target flags,
 Thomas but one libgcj library still requires them.  For this
 Thomas library, .obj, .o and .lo targets are generated, where
 Thomas .lo targets alone would suffice.

 Thomas - Tom suggested that DEP_FILES may be redundant.  He
 Thomas suggested that configure read the list of .Plo files
 Thomas from the am__include lines in Makefile.in.

These sound like good ideas.  I plan to work on the .obj/.o/.lo
rules output.
-- 
Alexandre Duret-Lutz





Re: mailing list archives

2003-12-30 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
 Thomas == Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thomas On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is only archived at mail.gnu.org and
  gmane.org.  It is quite young so the mail.gnu.org archive is
  complete, however I fear the day it will be cut.

 Thomas any idea what fraction of the archive is spam?

For [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've counted 8 spams in 2003.
I may have missed one or two, but this looks negligible (1%).

If you were talking about all the archives in general I've no
idea.  I guess it's probably worse on the bug lists since 
they are advertised a lot.  My favorite is the bug-automake
archive of 2002
  http://sources.redhat.com/ml/bug-automake/2002/
at some point during the summer gnu.org activated spamassassin,
and that shows!
-- 
Alexandre Duret-Lutz





Re: automake -vs- huge projects

2003-12-30 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:

 Hmmm.  What we'd need to merge are these:

 .c.o:
   $(CC) -c -o $@ $
 .c.obj:
   $(CC) -c -o $@ `$(CYGPATH_W) $`

[stuff removed]

 The extension is obviously not an issue, but how can we arrange the CYGPATH_W
 stuff?

An simple (but ugly) approach would be to define $(CYGPATH_W) to
'echo' when not compiling under Cygwin.

 but this is not really attractive.

 A related question is why we need this `cygpath -w' stuff.
 My understanding is that it is to turn special absolute
 filenames such as /cygdrive/c/foo into c:\foo
 (if this is true, then I think the first use of $(CYGPATH_W) in
 the sub/foo.obj rule is superfluous, since the file is relative)
 so that compiler that do not understand cygwin filename can work.

It seems to me that perhaps 'CYGPATH_W' is misnamed or the use is
outdated.  Cygwin and MinGW's MSYS shell environment already
automatically translate paths.  The only case where this translation
would be necessary is for a shell environment that doesn't
automatically translate paths for native Windows binaries, or where
the automatic path translation fails.

Bob
==
Bob Friesenhahn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen





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Re: SUBDIR_OBJECTS option

2003-12-30 Thread jling
I see ... it wasn't SUBDIR_OBJECTS but rather SUBDIR-OBJECTS.

I put into my Makefile.am:
AUTOMAKE_OPTIONS = subdir-objects

and it worked.

Thanks,
John

- Original Message -
From: Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: SUBDIR_OBJECTS option

  John == jling  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 John I read in one thread the mention of a SUBDIR_OBJECTS option 
 in 
 John automake.  Supposedly this would prevent intermediate object 
 files from 
 John ending up in the directory of the Makefile (I'm trying to 
 use a non-
 John recursive Makefile.am).
 
 John Where and how is this option to be specified?
 
 Put `subdir-objects' into the AUTOMAKE_OPTIONS variable in 
 Makefile.am.See the manual for this and other information...
 
 Tom