Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-10 Thread Mark Shuttleworth

Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if there is
negative feedback, that's what exploring and testing are all about.
Thanks for making the testable mockup.



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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-10 Thread Luke Benstead
On 10 March 2011 09:25, Mark Shuttleworth
mark.shuttlewo...@canonical.com wrote:

 Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if there is
 negative feedback, that's what exploring and testing are all about.
 Thanks for making the testable mockup.


I really like the flipping* dock idea, it declutters the application
area, I like the separation of applications and places. It's touch
friendly, easily discoverable (well, as discoverable as the Dash...)
and simple. What's not to like?

Luke.

*Obviously, a vertical rotation of the dock around the Y-axis would
look awesome!

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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-10 Thread Xavier

I like it a lot !

With configuration, for those who choose not hiding the dock, to have by 
default applications launchers, one click on Ubuntu icon switches to 
dock with Dash, Places, virtual desktops, trash..., another click 
re-switch back to applications icons etc...


It leaves more space on launcher dock to put many applications icons, 
perfect.


On 10/03/2011 14:12, Marc Lajoie wrote:
Okay, here is a more elaborate mockup of what I intended, built on top 
of David Reichling's preliminary mockup (thanks btw!). Unfortunately I 
don't have anywhere to host it, so I'm just attaching it as an 
archive. If someone could put it up somewhere that would be great. As 
it is it can be used locally (it's only html and javascript). I've 
tested it only in Chromium browser and on a netbook screen, so if it 
comes out wacky it's probably my fault. Cheers!


Marc Lajoie

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com 
mailto:kaz...@gmail.com wrote:


On 10 March 2011 09:25, Mark Shuttleworth
mark.shuttlewo...@canonical.com
mailto:mark.shuttlewo...@canonical.com wrote:

 Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if
there is
 negative feedback, that's what exploring and testing are all about.
 Thanks for making the testable mockup.


I really like the flipping* dock idea, it declutters the application
area, I like the separation of applications and places. It's touch
friendly, easily discoverable (well, as discoverable as the Dash...)
and simple. What's not to like?

Luke.

*Obviously, a vertical rotation of the dock around the Y-axis would
look awesome!

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[Ayatana] [ayatana] Enter for quick selection in Unity menu

2011-03-10 Thread Anthony Hook
I have an idea for functionality of the new Unity menu (Ubuntu button menu),
when searching for an application/file to launch/open

I don't mean to compare the awesome searching/launching functionality of
Unity's search to similar searching as done in Gnome-Do, but I find myself
trying to press 'Enter' trying to launch the first item when I do a search
for an application, to no avail.

For instance, when trying to find the application Hydrogen, it's quite
easy to:

[Super]hydro (as seen http://anthonyrhook.com/ubuntu/unitylaunch.png)

and seeing it at the top of the list, assume 'Enter' would launch it.  I'm
not sure what other issues this may cause, as I would guess the first entry
would have to be auto-highlighted for it to be launched/opened/etc.  Any
other thoughts on this?  Perhaps it's been discussed and I'm late to the
conversation, too.

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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-10 Thread Oscar RdG
Hi there,

I like it!!

But maybe the workspace switcher would fit better on the applications view
of the launcher, instead of in the dash view?
It is used to switch between workspaces and opened applications, so it does
not belong to the dash view... at least imo.

Thanks for your mockup and cheers!

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Xavier valeryan...@laposte.net wrote:

  I like it a lot !

 With configuration, for those who choose not hiding the dock, to have by
 default applications launchers, one click on Ubuntu icon switches to dock
 with Dash, Places, virtual desktops, trash..., another click re-switch back
 to applications icons etc...

 It leaves more space on launcher dock to put many applications icons,
 perfect.


 On 10/03/2011 14:12, Marc Lajoie wrote:

 Okay, here is a more elaborate mockup of what I intended, built on top of
 David Reichling's preliminary mockup (thanks btw!). Unfortunately I don't
 have anywhere to host it, so I'm just attaching it as an archive. If someone
 could put it up somewhere that would be great. As it is it can be used
 locally (it's only html and javascript). I've tested it only in Chromium
 browser and on a netbook screen, so if it comes out wacky it's probably my
 fault. Cheers!

  Marc Lajoie

 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10 March 2011 09:25, Mark Shuttleworth
 mark.shuttlewo...@canonical.com wrote:
 
   Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if there is
  negative feedback, that's what exploring and testing are all about.
  Thanks for making the testable mockup.
 

  I really like the flipping* dock idea, it declutters the application
 area, I like the separation of applications and places. It's touch
 friendly, easily discoverable (well, as discoverable as the Dash...)
 and simple. What's not to like?

 Luke.

 *Obviously, a vertical rotation of the dock around the Y-axis would
 look awesome!

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Re: [Ayatana] [ayatana] Enter for quick selection in Unity menu

2011-03-10 Thread Pablo Quirós
I posted the same idea in the Ubuntu forums; I think the search shold show
the results just like now, but highlighting one of them, that will be
launched if the user presses enter. This would make it really useful and
fast for the user.

And if it was like Gnome-Do, that learns from past user selections, it would
really be great. In fact, maybe some code of Gnome-Do or similar
applications could be used there.


2011/3/10 Anthony Hook anthony.ho...@gmail.com

 I have an idea for functionality of the new Unity menu (Ubuntu button
 menu), when searching for an application/file to launch/open

 I don't mean to compare the awesome searching/launching functionality of
 Unity's search to similar searching as done in Gnome-Do, but I find myself
 trying to press 'Enter' trying to launch the first item when I do a search
 for an application, to no avail.

 For instance, when trying to find the application Hydrogen, it's quite
 easy to:

 [Super]hydro (as seen http://anthonyrhook.com/ubuntu/unitylaunch.png)

 and seeing it at the top of the list, assume 'Enter' would launch it.  I'm
 not sure what other issues this may cause, as I would guess the first entry
 would have to be auto-highlighted for it to be launched/opened/etc.  Any
 other thoughts on this?  Perhaps it's been discussed and I'm late to the
 conversation, too.

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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-10 Thread Arian van Gend
Hi everyone,

I really like the idea of having the dash flip on interaction with the
ubuntu button. It is surprisingly elegant as a space saver.
However, I do find some problems with it.

1. It makes accessing places somewhat harder, and since this is something I
use often, it seems to detracts from my work flow at least.
2. It effectively hides the wonderful shortcuts of supera and superf,
making it less clear that they could in fact always be available (as you
would suspect them to be, i.e. global/universal).
3. I like how from the places icon in the dash you can search for files, and
that you can do the same from the applications icon, but in the end I often
use universal search (synapse, gnome-do, kupfer) to find what I need, which
seems to be something that the ubuntu button could do very well when clicked
(it does need some improvements, like selecting the most likely result, etc,
such as these launchers do).
4. We cannot DnD to the folded side of the launcher.

These seem like harsh critiques, but they're not, really. I'm simply stating
that these are some problems with the idea, but I suspect they can be fixed
somehow.

Some possible solutions:
1. Not too big of a problem, may not need a fix at all...
2. When holding down the super key we could show all icons with shortcuts,
so mix the places and app icons in or, maybe show them in a second row of
the launcher (sort of like unfolding it) temporarily.
3. We could solve this one by adding an icon on the folded side of the
launcher for universal search, or show the current version of the dash, just
as we do now, combined with the flipped launcher.
4. When DnDing, unfold the launcher, just like in 2.

Thank you all for you're time. I hope we can make this idea work!

Greetings,
Arian

2011/3/10 Oscar RdG oscar...@gmail.com

 Hi there,

 I like it!!

 But maybe the workspace switcher would fit better on the applications
 view of the launcher, instead of in the dash view?
 It is used to switch between workspaces and opened applications, so it does
 not belong to the dash view... at least imo.

 Thanks for your mockup and cheers!

 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Xavier valeryan...@laposte.net wrote:

  I like it a lot !

 With configuration, for those who choose not hiding the dock, to have by
 default applications launchers, one click on Ubuntu icon switches to dock
 with Dash, Places, virtual desktops, trash..., another click re-switch back
 to applications icons etc...

 It leaves more space on launcher dock to put many applications icons,
 perfect.


 On 10/03/2011 14:12, Marc Lajoie wrote:

 Okay, here is a more elaborate mockup of what I intended, built on top of
 David Reichling's preliminary mockup (thanks btw!). Unfortunately I don't
 have anywhere to host it, so I'm just attaching it as an archive. If someone
 could put it up somewhere that would be great. As it is it can be used
 locally (it's only html and javascript). I've tested it only in Chromium
 browser and on a netbook screen, so if it comes out wacky it's probably my
 fault. Cheers!

  Marc Lajoie

 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10 March 2011 09:25, Mark Shuttleworth
 mark.shuttlewo...@canonical.com wrote:
 
   Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if there is
  negative feedback, that's what exploring and testing are all about.
  Thanks for making the testable mockup.
 

  I really like the flipping* dock idea, it declutters the application
 area, I like the separation of applications and places. It's touch
 friendly, easily discoverable (well, as discoverable as the Dash...)
 and simple. What's not to like?

 Luke.

 *Obviously, a vertical rotation of the dock around the Y-axis would
 look awesome!

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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dock Icons behavior - Context Menu

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Sladen
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Xavier Guillot wrote:
 - Keep in launcher
 - Quit
 and a third one to launch another window of the program ...
 Now this possibility disappeared, it's available with middle click.

Hello Xavier.  I've leaned over the table and enquired about this, and
John has told me that the middle-click shortcut is supposed to be *in
addition* to the means of opening a new window via the right-click
QuickList.

Apparently it's a co-incidence that one temporarily disappeared
whilst the other was being introduced.

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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-10 Thread Arian van Gend
I really like nr 4 alot! Feels quite natural somehow!

2011/3/10 David david.reichl...@googlemail.com

 Hi,

 Stuart Langridge changed the animation (flip over)
 http://unity.exemo.net/4/
 and
 Marc Lajoie send me his version of the mockup:
 http://unity.exemo.net/5/

 David Reichling
 ps maybe i should add a dropdown menu to choose the version

 2011/3/10 Arian van Gend aria...@gmail.com:
  Hi everyone,
  I really like the idea of having the dash flip on interaction with the
  ubuntu button. It is surprisingly elegant as a space saver.
  However, I do find some problems with it.
  1. It makes accessing places somewhat harder, and since this is something
 I
  use often, it seems to detracts from my work flow at least.
  2. It effectively hides the wonderful shortcuts of supera and superf,
  making it less clear that they could in fact always be available (as you
  would suspect them to be, i.e. global/universal).
  3. I like how from the places icon in the dash you can search for files,
 and
  that you can do the same from the applications icon, but in the end I
 often
  use universal search (synapse, gnome-do, kupfer) to find what I need,
 which
  seems to be something that the ubuntu button could do very well when
 clicked
  (it does need some improvements, like selecting the most likely result,
 etc,
  such as these launchers do).
  4. We cannot DnD to the folded side of the launcher.
  These seem like harsh critiques, but they're not, really. I'm simply
 stating
  that these are some problems with the idea, but I suspect they can be
 fixed
  somehow.
  Some possible solutions:
  1. Not too big of a problem, may not need a fix at all...
  2. When holding down the super key we could show all icons with
 shortcuts,
  so mix the places and app icons in or, maybe show them in a second row of
  the launcher (sort of like unfolding it) temporarily.
  3. We could solve this one by adding an icon on the folded side of the
  launcher for universal search, or show the current version of the dash,
 just
  as we do now, combined with the flipped launcher.
  4. When DnDing, unfold the launcher, just like in 2.
  Thank you all for you're time. I hope we can make this idea work!
  Greetings,
  Arian
  2011/3/10 Oscar RdG oscar...@gmail.com
 
  Hi there,
  I like it!!
  But maybe the workspace switcher would fit better on the applications
  view of the launcher, instead of in the dash view?
  It is used to switch between workspaces and opened applications, so it
  does not belong to the dash view... at least imo.
  Thanks for your mockup and cheers!
  On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Xavier valeryan...@laposte.net
 wrote:
 
  I like it a lot !
 
  With configuration, for those who choose not hiding the dock, to have
 by
  default applications launchers, one click on Ubuntu icon switches to
 dock
  with Dash, Places, virtual desktops, trash..., another click re-switch
 back
  to applications icons etc...
 
  It leaves more space on launcher dock to put many applications icons,
  perfect.
 
  On 10/03/2011 14:12, Marc Lajoie wrote:
 
  Okay, here is a more elaborate mockup of what I intended, built on top
 of
  David Reichling's preliminary mockup (thanks btw!). Unfortunately I
 don't
  have anywhere to host it, so I'm just attaching it as an archive. If
 someone
  could put it up somewhere that would be great. As it is it can be used
  locally (it's only html and javascript). I've tested it only in
 Chromium
  browser and on a netbook screen, so if it comes out wacky it's probably
 my
  fault. Cheers!
  Marc Lajoie
 
  On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On 10 March 2011 09:25, Mark Shuttleworth
  mark.shuttlewo...@canonical.com wrote:
  
   Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if there
 is
   negative feedback, that's what exploring and testing are all about.
   Thanks for making the testable mockup.
  
 
  I really like the flipping* dock idea, it declutters the application
  area, I like the separation of applications and places. It's touch
  friendly, easily discoverable (well, as discoverable as the Dash...)
  and simple. What's not to like?
 
  Luke.
 
  *Obviously, a vertical rotation of the dock around the Y-axis would
  look awesome!
 
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dock Icons behavior - Context Menu

2011-03-10 Thread A. Casco
 At the beginning, with mouse right click on an icon, there were 3
 lines :
 
 - Keep in launcher
 - Quit
 
 and a third one to launch another window of the program (ie a second 
 terminal instance, or a second Nautilus window...)
 
 No this possibility disappeared, it's available with middle click.
 

I agree with this, just suppose we are using touchpad (ie laptops,
notebooks, netbooks) and not mouse.

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[Ayatana] Introduction and suggestion

2011-03-10 Thread Ian Santopietro
Hey All.

I'd like to first introduce myself. I'm Ian Santopietro. I currently do tech
support for System76, and have for nearly a year. I've been using ubuntu
since 6.10, and I love to see all of the progress that it's made since then.
So far, I'm delighted with Unity, and barring a few issues of missing
features, am ready for natty. (Actually, I should say I really can't wait
for natty. It will be totally awesome!)

Anyway, I have noticed something that feels inconsistent to me: The Unity
Panel. It feels out of place to me. It's hard to describe with words, so I
do have a couple of pictures:

Here's one at a default configuration:
http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8E/

And a possibly tweaked configuration with the transparency set:
http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8D/

Most of Unity's central design is dark, solid backgrounds with white
outlines and highlights. It's a strong design, and it feels clean, slick,
and modern. But the panel doesn't fit this at all. The after shot in my
suggestion, in my opinion, does a better job of bringing it all together and
making it feel consistent.

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[Ayatana] We need a short-term solution for mail applications and the messaging menu

2011-03-10 Thread Conscious User

Hi all,

Let me start the discussion by saying I agree with Matthew:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-coherent-behavior-for-apps-in-messagingmenu
http://design.canonical.com/2011/03/quit/
The engineering solution here is for messaging clients to
split out the code that checks for new messages, so that it
can optionally run even while the rest of the application
is not.

However, I don't think this separation is coming
anytime soon. Meanwhile, for several releases now
Evolution is being the only inconsistent application in
the Messaging Menu, the only that quits on close, the
only one that needs to be present on both the MM and the
taskbar (soon to be Unity Launcher).

Thunderbird is getting Messaging Menu support with the
exact same problem, and to make things worse we will now
not only have redundancy of presence, but also redundancy
of information presentation:

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/evolution-indicator/trunk/revision/77
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/thunderbird-getting-some-unity-love/

Evolution/Thunderbird should be on the launcher, or the
messaging menu, but *not* on both of them.

I don't expect a patch that modularizes Evolution or
Thunderbird dropping from the sky, so we need a short
term solution instead of continuing to ship the
current, horribly redundant, situation.

My suggestion is to either accept Geoff Goehle's patch:

https://code.launchpad.net/~goehle/evolution-indicator/dont-quit-on-close/+merge/42151

or to remove Evolution from the Messaging Menu entirely,
as it can be argued that email is not something you
should be interested in being constantly notified
about anyway and Evolution consumes a lot of memory.
(see pitti's comments in the first link)

Thoughts?



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Re: [Ayatana] Introduction and suggestion

2011-03-10 Thread Phong Cao
That's quite a good mockup Ian.

That's said, if we change the color of the panel, I think we should also
change the color of the window borders to that slick black, or the panel
will still look inconsistent when comparing to the windows' borders.

But I still can not imagine what will happen if we change all the windows'
borders to slick black... I don't know if it is a good idea...

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey All.

 I'd like to first introduce myself. I'm Ian Santopietro. I currently do
 tech support for System76, and have for nearly a year. I've been using
 ubuntu since 6.10, and I love to see all of the progress that it's made
 since then. So far, I'm delighted with Unity, and barring a few issues of
 missing features, am ready for natty. (Actually, I should say I really can't
 wait for natty. It will be totally awesome!)

 Anyway, I have noticed something that feels inconsistent to me: The Unity
 Panel. It feels out of place to me. It's hard to describe with words, so I
 do have a couple of pictures:

 Here's one at a default configuration:
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8E/

 And a possibly tweaked configuration with the transparency set:
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8D/

 Most of Unity's central design is dark, solid backgrounds with white
 outlines and highlights. It's a strong design, and it feels clean, slick,
 and modern. But the panel doesn't fit this at all. The after shot in my
 suggestion, in my opinion, does a better job of bringing it all together and
 making it feel consistent.

 --
 Ian Santopietro
 CEO - Prodigy Games

 Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast
  Ofer middangeard monnum sended

 Pa gur yv y porthaur?

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Re: [Ayatana] We need a short-term solution for mail applications and the messaging menu

2011-03-10 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
Another option, that might not be any more practical than factoring out
evolution's mail-checking code:

- Fix mail-notification's ssl issues by switching to gnutls
- Get mail-notification using the messaging menu instead of the notification
area
(Optionally) - Let evolution export account settings so mail-notification
runs automatically.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 17:27, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:


 Hi all,

 Let me start the discussion by saying I agree with Matthew:


 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-coherent-behavior-for-apps-in-messagingmenu
 http://design.canonical.com/2011/03/quit/
 The engineering solution here is for messaging clients to
 split out the code that checks for new messages, so that it
 can optionally run even while the rest of the application
 is not.

 However, I don't think this separation is coming
 anytime soon. Meanwhile, for several releases now
 Evolution is being the only inconsistent application in
 the Messaging Menu, the only that quits on close, the
 only one that needs to be present on both the MM and the
 taskbar (soon to be Unity Launcher).

 Thunderbird is getting Messaging Menu support with the
 exact same problem, and to make things worse we will now
 not only have redundancy of presence, but also redundancy
 of information presentation:


 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/evolution-indicator/trunk/revision/77
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/thunderbird-getting-some-unity-love/

 Evolution/Thunderbird should be on the launcher, or the
 messaging menu, but *not* on both of them.

 I don't expect a patch that modularizes Evolution or
 Thunderbird dropping from the sky, so we need a short
 term solution instead of continuing to ship the
 current, horribly redundant, situation.

 My suggestion is to either accept Geoff Goehle's patch:


 https://code.launchpad.net/~goehle/evolution-indicator/dont-quit-on-close/+merge/42151

 or to remove Evolution from the Messaging Menu entirely,
 as it can be argued that email is not something you
 should be interested in being constantly notified
 about anyway and Evolution consumes a lot of memory.
 (see pitti's comments in the first link)

 Thoughts?



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Re: [Ayatana] Introduction and suggestion

2011-03-10 Thread Phong Cao
I think we should change both the WINDOWS BORDERS and the UNITY PANEL to
slick black like what Ian said (see the quoted text section of this
email for more information).

http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8E/
http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8D/

Anybody wants to comment?


On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Phong Cao phn...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's quite a good mockup Ian.

 That's said, if we change the color of the panel, I think we should also
 change the color of the window borders to that slick black, or the panel
 will still look inconsistent when comparing to the windows' borders.

 But I still can not imagine what will happen if we change all the windows'
 borders to slick black... I don't know if it is a good idea...

 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey All.

 I'd like to first introduce myself. I'm Ian Santopietro. I currently do
 tech support for System76, and have for nearly a year. I've been using
 ubuntu since 6.10, and I love to see all of the progress that it's made
 since then. So far, I'm delighted with Unity, and barring a few issues of
 missing features, am ready for natty. (Actually, I should say I really can't
 wait for natty. It will be totally awesome!)

 Anyway, I have noticed something that feels inconsistent to me: The Unity
 Panel. It feels out of place to me. It's hard to describe with words, so I
 do have a couple of pictures:

 Here's one at a default configuration:
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8E/

 And a possibly tweaked configuration with the transparency set:
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/h8D/

 Most of Unity's central design is dark, solid backgrounds with white
 outlines and highlights. It's a strong design, and it feels clean, slick,
 and modern. But the panel doesn't fit this at all. The after shot in my
 suggestion, in my opinion, does a better job of bringing it all together and
 making it feel consistent.

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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dock Icons behavior - Context Menu

2011-03-10 Thread Didier Roche
Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 à 17:20 +, Paul Sladen a écrit :
 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Xavier Guillot wrote:
  - Keep in launcher
  - Quit
  and a third one to launch another window of the program ...
  Now this possibility disappeared, it's available with middle click.
 
 Hello Xavier.  I've leaned over the table and enquired about this, and
 John has told me that the middle-click shortcut is supposed to be *in
 addition* to the means of opening a new window via the right-click
 QuickList.
 
 Apparently it's a co-incidence that one temporarily disappeared
 whilst the other was being introduced.

No, it has been done on purpose as asked on bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/709707

See the comment 3.
The idea is to add quicklist entries in the desktop files when we know
applications support multiple instances (which isn't always the case,
like devhelp which doesn't open a new one but focus the existing
instance), or when it doesn't do thing wrong (like gimp, opening a new
full instance with toolbar and such and not only a new document).

Some guidance about how to do that is available there:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Static Quicklist entries

We are still discussing on the xdg list about the OnlyShowIn values
(Unity or X-Unity) before launching a campaign of community help :)

Didier


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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir into lp:indicator-session

2011-03-10 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt has proposed merging lp:~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir 
into lp:indicator-session.

Requested reviews:
  Ted Gould (ted)
Related bugs:
  Bug #727823 in Session Menu: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add 
System Settings link to the session indicator menu
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-session/+bug/727823

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir/+merge/52813

Hardcoding a single extra launcher path is impractical for distributions, as 
multiple packages would collide on the name and wouldn't give any extra 
customization possibility for OEMs.

This branch adds support for reading 
/usr/share/indicators/session/applications/*.desktop and appending them to the 
session indicator. This will allow us to implement bug 727823 for Ubuntu while 
retaining the OEM customization possibility.
  
/usr/share/applications/indicator-session-extra.desktop should be obsoleted. I 
didn't rip out the code for this yet, do you want me to?
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=== modified file 'src/session-service.c'
--- src/session-service.c	2010-08-12 14:17:03 +
+++ src/session-service.c	2011-03-10 10:18:55 +
@@ -55,6 +55,7 @@
 #define UP_INTERFACE  org.freedesktop.UPower
 
 #define DESKTOP_FILE  /usr/share/applications/indicator-session-extra.desktop
+#define EXTRA_LAUNCHER_DIR /usr/share/indicators/session/applications
 
 #define GUEST_SESSION_LAUNCHER  /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch
 
@@ -517,6 +518,19 @@
 	return;
 }
 
+static void
+add_extra_separator_once (DbusmenuMenuitem *menu)
+{
+  static gboolean added = FALSE;
+
+  if (!added) {
+	DbusmenuMenuitem * separator = dbusmenu_menuitem_new();
+	dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set(separator, DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_PROP_TYPE, DBUSMENU_CLIENT_TYPES_SEPARATOR);
+	dbusmenu_menuitem_child_append(menu, separator);
+	added = TRUE;
+  }
+}
+
 /* Builds up the menu for us */
 static void
 rebuild_items (DbusmenuMenuitem *root,
@@ -529,6 +543,8 @@
   gboolean can_activate;
   gboolean can_lockscreen;
   GList *children;
+  GDir *extra_launchers_dir;
+  const gchar *extra_launcher_file;
 
   /* Make sure we have a valid GConf client, and build one
  if needed */
@@ -713,14 +729,34 @@
 
 	update_menu_entries(restart_shutdown_logout_mi);
 
+	/* now add extra launchers */
+
 	if (g_file_test(DESKTOP_FILE, G_FILE_TEST_EXISTS)) {
 		GAppInfo * appinfo = G_APP_INFO(g_desktop_app_info_new_from_filename(DESKTOP_FILE));
 
 		if (appinfo != NULL) {
-			DbusmenuMenuitem * separator = dbusmenu_menuitem_new();
-			dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set(separator, DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_PROP_TYPE, DBUSMENU_CLIENT_TYPES_SEPARATOR);
-			dbusmenu_menuitem_child_append(root, separator);
-
+			add_extra_separator_once (root);
+			DbusmenuMenuitem * desktop_mi = dbusmenu_menuitem_new();
+			dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set(desktop_mi, DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_PROP_LABEL, g_app_info_get_name(appinfo));
+			g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT(desktop_mi), DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_SIGNAL_ITEM_ACTIVATED, G_CALLBACK(desktop_activate_cb), appinfo);
+			dbusmenu_menuitem_child_append(root, desktop_mi);
+		}
+	}
+
+	extra_launchers_dir = g_dir_open (EXTRA_LAUNCHER_DIR, 0, NULL);
+	if (extra_launchers_dir != NULL) {
+		for (;;) {
+			extra_launcher_file = g_dir_read_name (extra_launchers_dir);
+			if (extra_launcher_file == NULL)
+break;
+			if (!g_str_has_suffix (extra_launcher_file, .desktop))
+continue;
+
+			gchar *full_path = g_build_filename (EXTRA_LAUNCHER_DIR, extra_launcher_file, NULL);
+			GAppInfo * appinfo = G_APP_INFO(g_desktop_app_info_new_from_filename (full_path));
+			g_free (full_path);
+
+			add_extra_separator_once (root);
 			DbusmenuMenuitem * desktop_mi = dbusmenu_menuitem_new();
 			dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set(desktop_mi, DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_PROP_LABEL, g_app_info_get_name(appinfo));
 			g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT(desktop_mi), DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_SIGNAL_ITEM_ACTIVATED, G_CALLBACK(desktop_activate_cb), appinfo);

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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/fix-show-calendar into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-03-10 Thread Michael Terry
Michael Terry has proposed merging 
lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/fix-show-calendar into lp:indicator-datetime.

Requested reviews:
  Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-datetime/fix-show-calendar/+merge/52867

This causes the show-calendar setting to work robustly.
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=== modified file 'src/datetime-service.c'
--- src/datetime-service.c	2011-03-04 10:35:22 +
+++ src/datetime-service.c	2011-03-10 15:13:21 +
@@ -336,8 +336,6 @@
 check_for_calendar (gpointer user_data)
 {
 	g_return_val_if_fail (calendar != NULL, FALSE);
-	
-	if (!g_settings_get_boolean(conf, SETTINGS_SHOW_CALENDAR_S)) return FALSE;
 
 	gchar *evo = g_find_program_in_path(evolution);
 	if (evo != NULL) {

=== modified file 'src/indicator-datetime.c'
--- src/indicator-datetime.c	2011-03-04 12:03:49 +
+++ src/indicator-datetime.c	2011-03-10 15:13:21 +
@@ -84,6 +84,7 @@
 	gboolean custom_show_seconds;
 
 	gboolean show_week_numbers;
+	gboolean show_calendar;
 	gint week_start;
 	
 	guint idle_measure;
@@ -110,7 +111,8 @@
 	PROP_SHOW_DAY,
 	PROP_SHOW_DATE,
 	PROP_CUSTOM_TIME_FORMAT,
-	PROP_SHOW_WEEK_NUMBERS
+	PROP_SHOW_WEEK_NUMBERS,
+	PROP_SHOW_CALENDAR
 };
 
 typedef struct _indicator_item_t indicator_item_t;
@@ -129,6 +131,7 @@
 #define PROP_SHOW_DATE_Sshow-date
 #define PROP_CUSTOM_TIME_FORMAT_S   custom-time-format
 #define PROP_SHOW_WEEK_NUMBERS_Sshow-week-numbers
+#define PROP_SHOW_CALENDAR_Sshow-calendar
 
 #define INDICATOR_DATETIME_GET_PRIVATE(o) \
 (G_TYPE_INSTANCE_GET_PRIVATE ((o), INDICATOR_DATETIME_TYPE, IndicatorDatetimePrivate))
@@ -240,6 +243,13 @@
 	  Shows the week numbers in the monthly calendar in indicator-datetime's menu.,
 	  FALSE, /* default */
 	  G_PARAM_READWRITE | G_PARAM_STATIC_STRINGS));
+	g_object_class_install_property (object_class,
+	 PROP_SHOW_CALENDAR,
+	 g_param_spec_boolean(PROP_SHOW_CALENDAR_S,
+	  Whether to show the calendar.,
+	  Shows the monthly calendar in indicator-datetime's menu.,
+	  TRUE, /* default */
+	  G_PARAM_READWRITE | G_PARAM_STATIC_STRINGS));
 	return;
 }
 
@@ -303,6 +313,11 @@
 		self,
 		PROP_SHOW_WEEK_NUMBERS_S,
 		G_SETTINGS_BIND_DEFAULT);
+		g_settings_bind(self-priv-settings,
+		SETTINGS_SHOW_CALENDAR_S,
+		self,
+		PROP_SHOW_CALENDAR_S,
+		G_SETTINGS_BIND_DEFAULT);
 	} else {
 		g_warning(Unable to get settings for ' SETTINGS_INTERFACE ');
 	}
@@ -541,6 +556,13 @@
 		}
 		break;
 	}
+	case PROP_SHOW_CALENDAR: {
+		if (g_value_get_boolean(value) != self-priv-show_calendar) {
+			self-priv-show_calendar = g_value_get_boolean(value);
+			gtk_widget_set_visible (GTK_WIDGET (self-priv-ido_calendar), self-priv-show_calendar);
+		}
+		break;
+	}
 	default:
 		G_OBJECT_WARN_INVALID_PROPERTY_ID(object, prop_id, pspec);
 		return;
@@ -599,6 +621,9 @@
 	case PROP_SHOW_WEEK_NUMBERS:
 		g_value_set_boolean(value, self-priv-show_week_numbers);
 		break;
+	case PROP_SHOW_CALENDAR:
+		g_value_set_boolean(value, self-priv-show_calendar);
+		break;
 	default:
 		G_OBJECT_WARN_INVALID_PROPERTY_ID(object, prop_id, pspec);
 		return;
@@ -1228,7 +1253,9 @@
 	else
 		flags = ~GTK_CALENDAR_SHOW_WEEK_NUMBERS;
 	ido_calendar_menu_item_set_display_options (self-priv-ido_calendar, flags);
-	
+
+	gtk_widget_set_visible (GTK_WIDGET (self-priv-ido_calendar), self-priv-show_calendar);
+
 	dbusmenu_gtkclient_newitem_base(DBUSMENU_GTKCLIENT(client), newitem, GTK_MENU_ITEM(ido), parent);
 	g_signal_connect_after(ido, month-changed, G_CALLBACK(month_changed_cb), (gpointer)newitem);
 	return TRUE;

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Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_655252 into lp:indicator-me

2011-03-10 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve
  review approve
  merge approve

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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/disable-clock-prefs-if-no-indicator into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-03-10 Thread Michael Terry
Michael Terry has proposed merging 
lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/disable-clock-prefs-if-no-indicator into 
lp:indicator-datetime.

Requested reviews:
  Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-datetime/disable-clock-prefs-if-no-indicator/+merge/52912

As per spec, don't enable clock prefs if no clock
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=== modified file 'src/datetime-prefs.c'
--- src/datetime-prefs.c	2011-03-03 18:14:14 +
+++ src/datetime-prefs.c	2011-03-10 19:51:58 +
@@ -225,7 +225,8 @@
   g_variant_unref (answers);
 }
 
-void proxy_ready (GObject *object, GAsyncResult *res, gpointer user_data)
+static void
+proxy_ready (GObject *object, GAsyncResult *res, gpointer user_data)
 {
   GError * error = NULL;
 
@@ -244,6 +245,35 @@
  NULL, tz_query_answered, NULL);
 }
 
+static void
+service_name_owner_changed (GDBusProxy * proxy, GParamSpec *pspec, gpointer user_data)
+{
+  GtkWidget * widget = GTK_WIDGET (user_data);
+  gchar * owner = g_dbus_proxy_get_name_owner (proxy);
+
+  gtk_widget_set_sensitive (widget, (owner != NULL));
+
+  g_free (owner);
+}
+
+static void
+service_proxy_ready (GObject *object, GAsyncResult *res, gpointer user_data)
+{
+  GError * error = NULL;
+
+  proxy = g_dbus_proxy_new_for_bus_finish (res, error);
+
+  if (error != NULL) {
+g_critical(Could not grab DBus proxy for indicator-datetime-service: %s, error-message);
+g_error_free(error);
+return;
+  }
+
+  /* And now, do initial proxy configuration */
+  g_signal_connect (proxy, notify::g-name-owner, G_CALLBACK (service_name_owner_changed), user_data);
+  service_name_owner_changed (proxy, NULL, user_data);
+}
+
 static gboolean
 are_spinners_focused (void)
 {
@@ -634,6 +664,17 @@
 org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.DateTimeMechanism,
 NULL, proxy_ready, NULL);
 
+  /* Grab proxy for datetime service, to see if it's running.  It would
+ actually be more ideal to see if the indicator module itself is running,
+ but that doesn't yet claim a name on the bus.  Presumably the service
+ would have been started by any such indicator, so this will at least tell
+ us if there *was* a datetime module run this session. */
+  g_dbus_proxy_new_for_bus (G_BUS_TYPE_SESSION, G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START, NULL,
+com.canonical.indicator.datetime,
+/com/canonical/indicator/datetime/service,
+com.canonical.indicator.datetime.service,
+NULL, service_proxy_ready, WIG (showClockCheck));
+
 #undef WIG
 
   g_object_unref (conf);
@@ -678,7 +719,6 @@
 unique_app_watch_window (app, GTK_WINDOW (dlg));
 
 gtk_widget_show_all (dlg);
-g_signal_connect (dlg, response, G_CALLBACK(gtk_main_quit), NULL);
 g_signal_connect (dlg, destroy, G_CALLBACK(gtk_main_quit), NULL);
 gtk_main ();
   }

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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir into lp:indicator-session

2011-03-10 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir into 
lp:indicator-session has been updated.

Status: Needs review = Merged

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir/+merge/52813
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[Ayatana-commits] [Branch ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-me/trunk] Rev 136: version bump, 0.2.15

2011-03-10 Thread noreply

revno: 136
tags: 0.2.15
committer: Ken VanDine ken.vand...@canonical.com
branch nick: indicator-me-trunk
timestamp: Thu 2011-03-10 16:35:18 -0500
message:
  version bump, 0.2.15
modified:
  configure.ac


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=== modified file 'configure.ac'
--- configure.ac	2011-03-02 19:22:35 +
+++ configure.ac	2011-03-10 21:35:18 +
@@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
 
-AC_INIT(indicator-me, 0.2.10, david.ba...@canonical.com)
+AC_INIT(indicator-me, 0.2.15, david.ba...@canonical.com)
 AC_COPYRIGHT([Copyright 2009, 2010 Canonical])
 
 
 AC_PREREQ(2.53)
 
 AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)
-AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(indicator-me, 0.2.14)
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(indicator-me, 0.2.15)
 
 AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
 

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[Ayatana-commits] [Branch ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-me/trunk] Rev 135: Merged

2011-03-10 Thread noreply
Merge authors:
  Ken VanDine (ken-vandine)
Related merge proposals:
  https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_655252/+merge/52893
  proposed by: Ken VanDine (ken-vandine)
  review: Approve - Ted Gould (ted)

revno: 135 [merge]
committer: Ken VanDine ken.vand...@canonical.com
branch nick: indicator-me-trunk
timestamp: Thu 2011-03-10 16:34:32 -0500
message:
  Merged
modified:
  src/indicator-me.c
  src/me-service.c


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=== modified file 'src/indicator-me.c'
--- src/indicator-me.c	2011-03-02 19:22:20 +
+++ src/indicator-me.c	2011-03-10 17:53:09 +
@@ -546,12 +546,14 @@
 
   g_debug (%s, __func__);
 
-  if (! entry_hint_is_shown (GTK_WIDGET (entry)))
-if (gtk_entry_get_text_length (entry) == 0)
+  if (! entry_hint_is_shown (GTK_WIDGET (entry))) {
+if (gtk_entry_get_text_length (entry) == 0) {
   /* show the hint unconditionnaly, as the focus change
  may not have propagated already and entry_maybe_show_hint
  could get confused */
   entry_hint_show_hint (entry);
+}
+  }
 
   return FALSE;
 }
@@ -568,8 +570,7 @@
 	}
 	if (g_strcmp0 (prop, DBUSMENU_ENTRY_MENUITEM_PROP_HINT) == 0) {
 entry_set_hint (entry, g_variant_get_string (value, NULL));
-if (entry_hint_is_shown (GTK_WIDGET (entry)))
-entry_maybe_show_hint (entry); /* visual update */
+entry_hint_show_hint (entry); /* visual update */
 	}
 }
 
@@ -605,7 +606,7 @@
 	}
 
   g_object_set_data (G_OBJECT (ido),
- dbusmenitem,
+ dbusmenuitem,
  newitem);
 
 	gtk_entry_set_width_chars (entry, 23); /* set some nice aspect ratio for the menu */

=== modified file 'src/me-service.c'
--- src/me-service.c	2011-03-02 21:07:10 +
+++ src/me-service.c	2011-03-10 15:16:31 +
@@ -191,10 +191,11 @@
 return;
   }
 
-  if (! dbusmenu_menuitem_property_get_bool (broadcast_field, DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_PROP_VISIBLE))
+  dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set (broadcast_field, DBUSMENU_ENTRY_MENUITEM_PROP_HINT, me_gwibber_service_get_accounts_string (instance));
+
+  if (! dbusmenu_menuitem_property_get_bool (broadcast_field, DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_PROP_VISIBLE)) {
 dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_bool (broadcast_field, DBUSMENU_MENUITEM_PROP_VISIBLE, TRUE);
-
-  dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set (broadcast_field, DBUSMENU_ENTRY_MENUITEM_PROP_HINT, me_gwibber_service_get_accounts_string (instance));
+  }
 
   return;
 }

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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_655252 into lp:indicator-me

2011-03-10 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_655252 into 
lp:indicator-me has been updated.

Status: Approved = Merged

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_655252/+merge/52893
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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~gunnarhj/indicator-session/fix-636693 into lp:indicator-session

2011-03-10 Thread Ted Gould
The proposal to merge lp:~gunnarhj/indicator-session/fix-636693 into 
lp:indicator-session has been updated.

Status: Needs review = Rejected

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/indicator-session/fix-636693/+merge/37200
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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-session/no-lock into lp:indicator-session

2011-03-10 Thread Ted Gould
Ted Gould has proposed merging lp:~ted/indicator-session/no-lock into 
lp:indicator-session.

Requested reviews:
  Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-session/no-lock/+merge/52932

Use the no lock feature of guest-session to ensure we don't lock twice.
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=== modified file 'src/session-service.c'
--- src/session-service.c	2011-03-10 21:22:57 +
+++ src/session-service.c	2011-03-10 22:04:59 +
@@ -424,7 +424,7 @@
 		g_warning(Unable to activate guest session, falling back to command line activation.);
 	}
 
-	if (!g_spawn_command_line_async(GUEST_SESSION_LAUNCHER, error)) {
+	if (!g_spawn_command_line_async(GUEST_SESSION_LAUNCHER  --no-lock, error)) {
 		g_warning(Unable to start guest session: %s, error-message);
 		g_error_free(error);
 	}

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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/fix-show-calendar into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-03-10 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/fix-show-calendar into 
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Status: Needs review = Merged

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