Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 09:20 -0500, David Siegel wrote: On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:14AM , Rick Spencer wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 09:06 -0500, David Siegel wrote: For a concrete example, consider Evolution. To remove the Evolution launcher from the messaging menu, you'd have to launch Evolution and set up your email account before you can access Evolution's preferences and disable the launcher. If the messaging menu lets you access a simple blacklist, you can just go there and uncheck Evolution and be done with it. David Assuming that users prefer to act directly on objects, would it not be more direct to allow them to right click on the menu item to remove it? This would be consistent with how users remove the Evo launcher from the panel. Cheers, Rick Context menus on menus themselves is something generally avoided. I'm pretty sure it's a big no-no in the GNOME HIG as well, but I'd have to check. David True, but personally, I'd rather make the system work the way users want and expect it to, even if it requires deviating from the HIG. Cheers, Rick ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 10:38 -0500, David Siegel wrote: True, but personally, I'd rather make the system work the way users want and expect it to, even if it requires deviating from the HIG. Cheers, Rick If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse. -- Henry Ford Well ... there's a big difference between asking someone what they want, and watching what they do. Also, that quote refers to product definition, not detailed design. So, why I often agree with the notion, I'll call bullshit on that quote for this particular point. However, this is a now a pretty meta-discussion, so I'll also call uncle, and leave this up to the pros. Cheers, Rick ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon
This did not come off in the good natured way that I intended. (stupid email and it's lack of body language and voice). I seriously meant to convey that I defer to the design team's judgment on this topic. Cheers, Rick On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 08:44 -0700, Rick Spencer wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 10:38 -0500, David Siegel wrote: True, but personally, I'd rather make the system work the way users want and expect it to, even if it requires deviating from the HIG. Cheers, Rick If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse. -- Henry Ford Well ... there's a big difference between asking someone what they want, and watching what they do. Also, that quote refers to product definition, not detailed design. So, why I often agree with the notion, I'll call bullshit on that quote for this particular point. However, this is a now a pretty meta-discussion, so I'll also call uncle, and leave this up to the pros. Cheers, Rick ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
