[Ayatana] Switch between opened windows by double click in Unity's dock icon

2011-09-15 Thread Xavier Guillot

Hello,

I run on Ubuntu Oneiric beta and it works very fine, but I have a small 
problem since last week-end updates.


One of the new amazing features of Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity was : if an 
application has 2 or more windows opened (ie Firefox with navigation + 
bookmarks manager), a quick double click on its icon on Unity dock 
automatically switched from a window to another.


This was really useful, as normal switch with one click makes visible 
the thumbnails of all opened windows, but always with the current one on 
the left side of screen, so to change the window maximized I had to do 
more move with mouse. This new possibility was just perfect !


But since some days, it does not work anymore, a double click has just 
the same effect as simple click : displaying thumbnails of all windows 
from this application, no more direct switch between them.


Is this a bug of Unity, in this case I'll report it on Launchpad, or a 
feature, or a configuration to do in ccsm ? Because I really miss this 
option now...


Thanks ! Best regards,

Xavier

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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dock Icons behavior - Apps switching

2011-03-17 Thread Xavier Guillot
I try a last up as there has been no answer regarding this behavior of 
Unity Dock to switch between opened windows of same application when 
clicking on the icon : for me it is very more nice to have current 
window displayed on screen at right and other(s) left just near the mouse.


Nobody has an opinion about that ?

Thanks. Xavier.

On 28/02/2011 22:06, Valeryan_24 wrote:
I also noticed something on Minefield (nightly development version of 
Firefox) :


When there are many windows opened and one is not maximized (ex: 
Download manager, or links / javascript launches un-maximized new 
window), when clicking on the Minefield icon on Unity dock, it ALWAYS 
shows at left (or top left) this un-maximized window, even if I'm on 
another one when switching.


This happens on Minefield, not on normal Ubuntu Firefox or 
Thunderbird, but also for example on Tomboy.


If I open many notes, maximize all except one, this one will always 
appear at (top) left.


Would it be possible to add a configuration option to make current 
window going to the (top) right when clicking to switch, and other(s) 
on (top) left or bottom ?



Hi everybody,

Unity is getting very fine and I enjoy using it.

Regarding one particular thing, I would like to change the default
behavior if possible, sorry if this has already been discussed and
decided.

It's related to switch between application windows when more than 1  
is opened.


For the icons in left Unity dock, there are 1, 2, 3... white triangles
if 1, 2, 3 windows of the same application are active (ex : many
Firefox instances, or Firefox + bookmarks page, or Thunderbird +
address book + mail redaction, or many Nautilus windows...)

When we want to switch from one of these windows to another, we have to
click on the icon in Unity dock, and it shows us with an animation a
small view of all these windows.

Here I'd like that the current window is shown at the right side and
the other shown closest and near the Unity dock, it would make less
mouse move to change window.

Some examples to be clear :

http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1298217934.png

I am on the Firefox window on Ubuntu page, and I want to switch on the
window with Google page. When I click to Minefield icon on dock, it
shows me on left side the current window, and I have to go with mouse
on the right to select the other window.

When there is only 1 window of an app' opened, nothing happens if I
click on the dock icon (no hide, no launch of another instance),
logical.

So, if there are many windows opened, if I click on the icon, it
normally means that I want to switch between them. In this case, it
would make sense that the other windows are shown the nearest from my
mouse, to make me easy and quick to switch, and not have to go on the
other part of the screen.

With 3 windows opened :

http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1298218213.png

Here I was on Thunderbird main screen (with inbox mails), and again
when I click on the icon, this screen is the first proposed to me in
top left. As I want to switch to one of the 2 other windows, I expect
Thunderbird main screen shown on the most far position, on top right,
and 2 others on bottom and top left.

What do you think of that ?

In this case also, could another click on dock icon re-maximize current
window (if finally we do not want to switch) ?

Thanks in advance. Best regards,

Xavier


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Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-17 Thread Xavier Guillot

Hello,

My 2 cents also about global menu, as just a normal and daily user (both 
personal and professional use of Ubuntu), not a developer nor a 
designer. I like it very much as it is right now, because :


- It allows space saving and is very nice

- For me it is not a problem that window title hides the menu at first 
until we go with mouse on it. Apart new users - but those will also have 
to learn Unity, Dock, Linux... we know it and it is very common, easy 
after to get at the right place to see the menu. Often, there are 
buttons for most common actions in the soft that replace it.


- there is homogeneity (I could say Unity !) between all applications, 
even Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice and all things related to menus 
are in panel at top of the screen. It does not work for the moment for 
softs like Videolan but as it is not a native Ubuntu application, I 
understand it is not a top priority.


On the contrary, for Videolan, it's better because most often I use it 
un-maximized, so I have menus near the window.


That's the second point, the only thing I would change to Global Menu IMHO :

Keep window title over-riding menus and see them when mouseover, but for 
un-maximized window, as the title is displayed in the window, put also 
the menus on mouseover in this place in the window, it allows less mouse 
move to activate them. Some apps, like Videolan, Empathy... are commonly 
used in small size and placed everywhere in the screen, not always at top.


Keep maximized and minimized buttons please, it's perfect like that.

Remember position of a window : with Tomboy for example, even if I 
maximize a note, at next startup, it re-launches reduced in top left 
corner...


By the way, it will be impossible to satisfy everybody, so we'll see 
what it's decided, the less we can do is to explain our choices and 
their consistency.


It's just surprising that such an important discussion is not solved and 
takes place 1 month before final release !


I also hope that, perhaps not for Natty but for 11.10, Ubuntu will allow 
us a little configuration as it was fully possible in Gnome panel - for 
example dash, apps and Places shortcuts, order on the windows in the 
screen for switch between different instances...


Best regards,

Xavier

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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dock Icons behavior - Context Menu

2011-03-11 Thread Xavier Guillot
Thanks for the explanation. That would be perfect if QuickList entry for 
new window could be reactivated for apps that support it, right.


In this connection, regarding the question for switching between 
windows, is there a discussion / decision ?


When we want to switch from one of the current instance to another, we 
have to click on the icon in Unity dock, and it shows us with an 
animation a small view of all these windows.


I'd like that the current window is shown at the right side and the 
other shown closest and near the Unity dock (in top left), it would be 
easier and make less mouse move to change instance.


... Would it be possible to add a configuration option for current 
window going to the (top) right when clicking to switch, and other(s) on 
(top) left or bottom ?


Thanks in advance. Best regards,

Xavier

On 11/03/2011 08:59, Didier Roche wrote:

No, it has been done on purpose as asked on bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/709707

See the comment 3.
The idea is to add quicklist entries in the desktop files when we know 
applications support multiple instances (which isn't always the case, like 
devhelp which doesn't open a new one but focus the existing instance), or when 
it doesn't do thing wrong (like gimp, opening a new full instance with toolbar 
and such and not only a new document).

Some guidance about how to do that is available there:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Static  Quicklist entries

We are still discussing on the xdg list about the OnlyShowIn values (Unity or 
X-Unity) before launching a campaign of community help:)

Didier


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