Re: [Ayatana] Dash More Apps and Find Files options are redundant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Strawbridge wrote on 21/10/11 17:32: yea with the lenses included in dash it finally makes all of those buttons redundant with the possible exception of shotwell. the whole initial dash view should be reworked. ... Apparently the Unity developers plan to remove those buttons. http://launchpad.net/bugs/885738 - -- mpt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7CoKEACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecokaACbBxu9pOx4CyQLQ1iHc44X6Non w1sAoLooYsJ0ew098LvKf397tGh0lr+j =K2BP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Dash More Apps and Find Files options are redundant
With the inclusion of the Applications and Files lenses in the dash, the two buttons More Apps and Find Files on the initial view of the dash are somewhat redundant. Perhaps a better use of these buttons would be Office Apps and Settings, with each behaving similar to the Media Apps or Internet Apps buttons. This would make it easier for new users to find commonly used software (office) and find how to change settings. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Dash More Apps and Find Files options are redundant
2011/10/21 Matt Richardson m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk With the inclusion of the Applications and Files lenses in the dash, the two buttons More Apps and Find Files on the initial view of the dash are somewhat redundant. Perhaps a better use of these buttons would be Office Apps and Settings, with each behaving similar to the Media Apps or Internet Apps buttons. ++ for 'Office Apps' I think the second should be 'Dash Settings' if we get some in Precise else 'System Settings' ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Dash More Apps and Find Files options are redundant
yea with the lenses included in dash it finally makes all of those buttons redundant with the possible exception of shotwell. the whole initial dash view should be reworked. there's a firefox button on the launcher by default, chromium was added to my launcher. files lens at the bottom of dash, apps lens at the bottom of dash, e-mail is in the top panel, any media app i use is on my launcher/opened automatically with certain file types/ or isn't used enough for me to care if there even is a media apps button music is on my launcher, in my sound menu indicator, or opens with file types internet apps... chat and gwibber are in the top panel. firefox on my launcher e-mail in the top panel. leaving alternate chat programs/torrent stuff? that leaves shotwell. i like shotwell but i don't use it. the button is useless for me and anyone else who doesn't use shotwell. -- Josh Strawbridge ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Dash More Apps and Find Files options are redundant
Another potential would be to have the dash initial view show large icons for other lenses, followed by small icons for each of the application categories. The application categories would address the bugbear of some users who transition from gnome 2 in that opening applications by category (as in the old style gnome 2 menu) using the mouse now requires the user to click the dash, click the applications lense, click filter results, click the category they want to view and then click the application (5 clicks compared to the old style menu of 2 clicks). If the categories were shown on the dash it would reduce this to 3 clicks (dash category application) Thoughts? Matt On 21/10/11 10:59, Matt Richardson wrote: With the inclusion of the Applications and Files lenses in the dash, the two buttons More Apps and Find Files on the initial view of the dash are somewhat redundant. Perhaps a better use of these buttons would be Office Apps and Settings, with each behaving similar to the Media Apps or Internet Apps buttons. This would make it easier for new users to find commonly used software (office) and find how to change settings. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Dash More Apps and Find Files options are redundant
Yes, that is true we now need 5 clicks. And if you close and reopen the dash that is another 2 or 3 extra clicks. Anyway the question is what is that users are looking for ? the dash has lots more potential to be easier and smarter than the old menus... -Example1: Is it a recently installed app ? Then the recently installed could appear when you open dash (right in the main dash screen where new users will spot it quickly and not just in the apps lens. Do they even know or need to know what is an apps lens). -Example2: Is it an app that the user uses on a regular basis but prefers not to have it cluttering the launcher or visible to everyone (like work stuff)? I think the user should be able to customize the dash shortcuts from a configuration screen. Linuxmint has a configuration utility that lets you config those shortcuts in the menu. They dont want inexperience users to mess up the menu either, so the configuration is separate. mint menu config example: http://slashsarc.com/tag/linux-mint/ The Main dash screen indeed needs work and some customization to become and practical. Search should not be used for everything, but for when the user really needs to. Search is great, but it has always been for when users cant find things easily, is not something they want to do every 5 minutes for the same thing. That reminds me about search history... Configuring shortcuts will always be essential. I for one dont want to search for this mailing list everytime, it's why i added it to my bookmarks/shortcuts and to my mail, which is faster and takes less effort than doing another search. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:19:01 +0100 From: m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Dash More Apps and Find Files options are redundant Another potential would be to have the dash initial view show large icons for other lenses, followed by small icons for each of the application categories. The application categories would address the bugbear of some users who transition from gnome 2 in that opening applications by category (as in the old style gnome 2 menu) using the mouse now requires the user to click the dash, click the applications lense, click filter results, click the category they want to view and then click the application (5 clicks compared to the old style menu of 2 clicks). If the categories were shown on the dash it would reduce this to 3 clicks (dash category application) Thoughts? Matt On 21/10/11 10:59, Matt Richardson wrote: With the inclusion of the Applications and Files lenses in the dash, the two buttons More Apps and Find Files on the initial view of the dash are somewhat redundant. Perhaps a better use of these buttons would be Office Apps and Settings, with each behaving similar to the Media Apps or Internet Apps buttons. This would make it easier for new users to find commonly used software (office) and find how to change settings. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
