Re: [Ayatana] Will Modal-Dialog windows fix this problem with Unity?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 10/12/11 18:07: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 18:40, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com ... How can I minimize a window when a modal-dialog has taken over the focus of the window? Right clicking the Update Manager icon in the Launcher does not give a minimize option either. Anyone consider this a problem with the Unity design? No, that would be a bug in Compiz. a window should change its shape and design, it should morph, rather than spawn new little focus stealing dialog boxes. MPT had a design for that iirc, morphing windows, especially pertaining to update-manager. I don't know where all that good work went, but it surely didn't land in 11.10, unfortunately. did it? ... My design for Update Manager does use a morphing window. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Installing The code didn't land in 11.10 because it doesn't exist yet. :-) I would be delighted if anyone volunteered to implement even a small bit of that design. (I've specified it as lots of independent chunks, to make this easier.) However, while that would solve Nick's problem for Update Manager in particular, it would not solve the problem in general. For example, when you save a document for the first time, the document window shouldn't morph into a Save dialog. That would change too much of the screen at once (visual instability), and it would hide information that you needed for deciding the document's name. Instead, you should be able to minimize a window regardless of whether it has a dialog modal to it. - -- mpt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7p6a4ACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecpu8ACfVAr7XNNKXHkadwMYf6pVebp5 AB8AnRtH0K5gITa8N0k6VJeDj1VCek4o =3b3R -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Will Modal-Dialog windows fix this problem with Unity?
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 13:35, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 10/12/11 18:07: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 18:40, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com ... How can I minimize a window when a modal-dialog has taken over the focus of the window? Right clicking the Update Manager icon in the Launcher does not give a minimize option either. Anyone consider this a problem with the Unity design? No, that would be a bug in Compiz. a window should change its shape and design, it should morph, rather than spawn new little focus stealing dialog boxes. MPT had a design for that iirc, morphing windows, especially pertaining to update-manager. I don't know where all that good work went, but it surely didn't land in 11.10, unfortunately. did it? ... My design for Update Manager does use a morphing window. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Installing The code didn't land in 11.10 because it doesn't exist yet. :-) I would be delighted if anyone volunteered to implement even a small bit of that design. (I've specified it as lots of independent chunks, to make this easier.) At the moment, the most challenging part of your spec would be the visual morphing animation to be specific. Which exact chunk would you designate as chunk #1, in case someone decides to make the first step here? Perhaps there's an effective way of taking the edge off here, without reducing the effect of your concept. However, while that would solve Nick's problem for Update Manager in particular, it would not solve the problem in general. For example, when you save a document for the first time, the document window shouldn't morph into a Save dialog. That would change too much of the screen at once (visual instability), and it would hide information that you needed for deciding the document's name. what information would that be? Instead, you should be able to minimize a window regardless of whether it has a dialog modal to it. yes, ..able to minimize.. or to hide. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Will Modal-Dialog windows fix this problem with Unity?
To help explain this problem I'm going to list an example case: - I open Update Manager and maximize the window -I click Install and a small window appears on top of the maximized window and displays the installation status as it progresses. -The updates are going to take a while to complete so I'd like to minimize the update manager window and gain visual access to my Desktop. My attempt to get rid of the update manager window is where the problem lies: -The small modal-dialog window does not have a minimize button in the title bar and when I move the mouse to the upper left corner to access the buttons for the Maximized update manager window the buttons are not accessible because it can't gain focus because all the focus is on the small modal-dialog window. I press Alt+F9 in an attempt to minimize the TWO update manager windows (i.e., the maximized and small modal-dialog window) but nothing happens. How can I minimize a window when a modal-dialog has taken over the focus of the window? Right clicking the Update Manager icon in the Launcher does not give a minimize option either. Anyone consider this a problem with the Unity design? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
