Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
Maybe you can use another compiz plugin called static application switcher. I'm new to community discussions. On 14 Apr 2011 17:46, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: a. Already being in a Terminal (currently Alt-tab-tab-... We're thinking maybe: ... If I understand correctly? a. From another Terminal Alt-*long pause*-tab-tab-tab b. From a Firefox window Alt-Tab-*long pause*-tab-tab-tab -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayata... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
We're thinking maybe: Step 1: Alt-Tab-Tab-Tab to relevant app. Step 2: Either a) Release Alt to access mostly recent viewed window for that app (or only window if there's only 1 window open for that app). or b} Pause - spread of windows for that app is displayed. Tab to one you want, then release Alt to go to it. OK or not? On 13/04/11 18:32, Paul Sladen wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: When using Alt-Tab for switching between windows, would you like windows of a particular app grouped under that app? Thank you Pippa! Could you describe how a second-level selection might work? For instance, if I have fifteen full-screen terminals open, how would the selection process work if I wanted to switch to the third-to-most-recent Terminal, from: a. Already being in a Terminal (currently Alt-tab-tab-tab) b. Needing to switch from a Firefox window? (Alt-tab-tab-tab-tab) -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: a. Already being in a Terminal (currently Alt-tab-tab-tab) b. Needing to switch from a Firefox window? (Alt-tab-tab-tab-tab) We're thinking maybe: ... If I understand correctly? a. From another Terminal Alt-*long pause*-tab-tab-tab b. From a Firefox window Alt-Tab-*long pause*-tab-tab-tab -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
Sorry, guys, I should have realised that you probably don't spend a lot of time with Win/Mac. So a slightly different question... When using Alt-Tab for switching between windows, would you like windows of a particular app grouped under that app? So, for example, you have 3 Firefox windows, 2 email windows and 1 IRC window open. Do you want Alt-Tab to show you: Option 1 - Firefox icon, Email client icon, IRC client icon. You select one to view its individual windows (this is the Mac way, and seems to be the Gnome 3 way too now). or Option 2 - 3 Firefox windows (with Firefox icon on corner of each), 2 email windows (with icons) and 1 IRC window (with icon). You can access each window directly (this is pretty much the current implementation and also the Win way). Back to you... On 12/04/11 16:51, Pippa Kyle wrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
Option 1 Sounds great! I always like the idea of switching between Apps instead of switching between windows. Though it is time consuming, but still that is my favorite option. On 13 April 2011 19:59, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Sorry, guys, I should have realised that you probably don't spend a lot of time with Win/Mac. So a slightly different question... When using Alt-Tab for switching between windows, would you like windows of a particular app grouped under that app? So, for example, you have 3 Firefox windows, 2 email windows and 1 IRC window open. Do you want Alt-Tab to show you: Option 1 - Firefox icon, Email client icon, IRC client icon. You select one to view its individual windows (this is the Mac way, and seems to be the Gnome 3 way too now). or Option 2 - 3 Firefox windows (with Firefox icon on corner of each), 2 email windows (with icons) and 1 IRC window (with icon). You can access each window directly (this is pretty much the current implementation and also the Win way). Back to you... On 12/04/11 16:51, Pippa Kyle wrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- M. Adnan Quaium MSc Student Faculty of Electrical Engineering Mathematics and Computer Science Technical University of Delft Mekelweg 4 Delft The Netherlands URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
Option 1 seems neat but slow. When I'm working between two windows, be they of the same application or different ones, option 2 means I can easily flip between them with a quick press of Alt+Tab. Thanks, Christian On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:03 PM, M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@linux.org.bdwrote: Option 1 Sounds great! I always like the idea of switching between Apps instead of switching between windows. Though it is time consuming, but still that is my favorite option. On 13 April 2011 19:59, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Sorry, guys, I should have realised that you probably don't spend a lot of time with Win/Mac. So a slightly different question... When using Alt-Tab for switching between windows, would you like windows of a particular app grouped under that app? So, for example, you have 3 Firefox windows, 2 email windows and 1 IRC window open. Do you want Alt-Tab to show you: Option 1 - Firefox icon, Email client icon, IRC client icon. You select one to view its individual windows (this is the Mac way, and seems to be the Gnome 3 way too now). or Option 2 - 3 Firefox windows (with Firefox icon on corner of each), 2 email windows (with icons) and 1 IRC window (with icon). You can access each window directly (this is pretty much the current implementation and also the Win way). Back to you... On 12/04/11 16:51, Pippa Kyle wrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- M. Adnan Quaium MSc Student Faculty of Electrical Engineering Mathematics and Computer Science Technical University of Delft Mekelweg 4 Delft The Netherlands URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: When using Alt-Tab for switching between windows, would you like windows of a particular app grouped under that app? Thank you Pippa! Could you describe how a second-level selection might work? For instance, if I have fifteen full-screen terminals open, how would the selection process work if I wanted to switch to the third-to-most-recent Terminal, from: a. Already being in a Terminal (currently Alt-tab-tab-tab) b. Needing to switch from a Firefox window? (Alt-tab-tab-tab-tab) -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
Agreed I like seeing all windows at once. It could be really useful if they were grouped by application as long as I don't have to select a group before being able to see and select the window I want in that group. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Christian Mackintosh christian.mackint...@gmail.com wrote: Option 1 seems neat but slow. When I'm working between two windows, be they of the same application or different ones, option 2 means I can easily flip between them with a quick press of Alt+Tab. Thanks, Christian On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:03 PM, M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@linux.org.bd wrote: Option 1 Sounds great! I always like the idea of switching between Apps instead of switching between windows. Though it is time consuming, but still that is my favorite option. On 13 April 2011 19:59, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Sorry, guys, I should have realised that you probably don't spend a lot of time with Win/Mac. So a slightly different question... When using Alt-Tab for switching between windows, would you like windows of a particular app grouped under that app? So, for example, you have 3 Firefox windows, 2 email windows and 1 IRC window open. Do you want Alt-Tab to show you: Option 1 - Firefox icon, Email client icon, IRC client icon. You select one to view its individual windows (this is the Mac way, and seems to be the Gnome 3 way too now). or Option 2 - 3 Firefox windows (with Firefox icon on corner of each), 2 email windows (with icons) and 1 IRC window (with icon). You can access each window directly (this is pretty much the current implementation and also the Win way). Back to you... On 12/04/11 16:51, Pippa Kyle wrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- M. Adnan Quaium MSc Student Faculty of Electrical Engineering Mathematics and Computer Science Technical University of Delft Mekelweg 4 Delft The Netherlands URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
I personally like the ring switcher effect available in CCSM. It looks nice and provides window-based switching without being too much like either of the Unmentionable OSs. :) On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:51, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Ian Santopietro Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast Ofer middangeard monnum sended Pa gur yv y porthaur? Public GPG key (RSA): http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x412F52DB1BBF1234 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: Hello Pippa, greetings! Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview It's been a while (a decade) since I was regularly using MS Windows machines, and I expect that there may have been a few revisions in the mean-time! Would you be able to describe in prose form or with screenshots what the precise behaviours you've got in mind are? This would make it easier for people less familiar with those platforms to follow along. I think my own observations about Alt-Tab are that I don't really look at the dialogues presented and mainly rely on Alt-Tab acting as a reliable LIFO stack (most recent first). For your request, is it the behaviour itself that you're looking into, or just the accompanying user-interface and visible arrangement? -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
Just my personal opinion, the thumbnails in Windows are too small to be useful. I think that the Mac one is better since it is easier for the user to make out icons rather than hunting for details on a tiny thumbnail. Cheers, Kevin Liao. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.comwrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- DISCLAIMER-- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be error free. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions as a result of internet transmission. Any commitment implied or otherwise contained in this message require separate verification of the sender's authority. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
I like how alt + tab currently works but agree that bigger icons would increase usability. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
You shouldn't need to make out details in Win7 as the whole window is previewed on the screen behind the switcher. On 12/04/11 17:18, Kevin Liao wrote: Just my personal opinion, the thumbnails in Windows are too small to be useful. I think that the Mac one is better since it is easier for the user to make out icons rather than hunting for details on a tiny thumbnail. Cheers, Kevin Liao. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com mailto:pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana https://launchpad.net/%7Eayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net mailto:ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana https://launchpad.net/%7Eayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- DISCLAIMER-- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be error free. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions as a result of internet transmission. Any commitment implied or otherwise contained in this message require separate verification of the sender's authority. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
On 4/12/2011 11:37 AM, Pippa Kyle wrote: You shouldn't need to make out details in Win7 as the whole window is previewed on the screen behind the switcher. On 12/04/11 17:18, Kevin Liao wrote: Just my personal opinion, the thumbnails in Windows are too small to be useful. I think that the Mac one is better since it is easier for the user to make out icons rather than hunting for details on a tiny thumbnail. Cheers, Kevin Liao. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Hello Ayatana guys! Just wanted to get some opinions... I'm looking into making improvements to task/application switching on the desktop with Alt-Tab. There are slightly different approaches currently for Windows 7 and Mac. Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview in the background helps me find exactly what I'm looking for. I can easily switch back and forth between 2 apps, and I can also see which window is part of which app. I can see that the app-based approach in Mac isn't a bad thing, but without the window preview, I'm not sure how this approach would scale to smaller screens. Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? Regards, Pippa ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- DISCLAIMER-- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be error free. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions as a result of internet transmission. Any commitment implied or otherwise contained in this message require separate verification of the sender's authority. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp I just started using Windows 7 at work (having been a long-time Ubuntu at home and Win XP at work user). I found Windows 7's way of previewing windows while holding alt and tapping tab very confusing--I had no visual cues of where I was "at" or how many times I needed to tap Tab to get where I was going, as the switcher was often covered by the window that I was previewing (this is probably a bug or, more likely, simply a poor implementation of what they were trying to achieve). I find previews (even the outline-of-the-window-only previews) visually confusing, mostly because when I alt+tab, I want to use as little brain power on finding the new window as possible. Previews add visual noise that's rarely helpful to me and tends to ask me to devote brain power to figuring out what I'm being shown. I much prefer the traditional alt+tab switcher (in both Windows and Gnome) which provides application icons and text, only because it's easier for me to identify icon shapes and colors quickly then confirm my choice with the window title, rather than to try to figure out whether the white window filled with rows of text that I'm looking at is a version of a spreadsheet or my inbox. Unfortunately, the traditional switcher is rather plain jane appearance-wise. There's probably a better way to switch applications, something I haven't seen yet (I can't comment on the Mac implementation, having never used it). But I think focusing on making windows/icons immediately recognizable while minimizing visual noise
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? For power-users, the more important thing is that the window switcher applet appear and respond immediately. On my multi-core name-brand-graphics-card machine, it takes about a quarter-second for the applet to show after I strike the tab-key. That response time is totally unacceptable - it shouldn't take more than 0.03 seconds (1 frame of standard 30FPS video) for the UI to respond to a keyboard shortcut, and ideally should take less time than that. If something in the current system makes that delay necessary, we should change the system enough that an immediate response can be given. And let's be honest, it's mostly power-users who know and utilize the alt-tab shortcut for window management. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
Hi Ryan, On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Ryan Prior ryanpr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Pippa Kyle pippa.k...@canonical.com wrote: Any thoughts on this, and what would be good for Unity? For power-users, the more important thing is that the window switcher applet appear and respond immediately. On my multi-core name-brand-graphics-card machine, it takes about a quarter-second for the applet to show after I strike the tab-key. That response time is totally unacceptable - it shouldn't take more than 0.03 seconds (1 frame of standard 30FPS video) for the UI to respond to a keyboard shortcut, and ideally should take less time than that. If something in the current system makes that delay necessary, we should change the system enough that an immediate response can be given. And let's be honest, it's mostly power-users who know and utilize the alt-tab shortcut for window management. This behaviour was bothering me, too. I found that there's a 200ms delay, by default. You can change it in CompizConfig Settings Manager: - Go to 'Static Application Switcher'. - Click 'Behaviour'. - Set 'Popup Window Delay' to 0. I have no idea why anyone would want a delay for this operation. I guess it's so that a quick Alt-Tab doesn't show the switcher, but I was finding that, more often than not, nothing would happen when I hit Alt-Tab very quickly. Application switching is nice and snappy with the delay set to 0. Thanks, J. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Jamu Kakar jka...@kakar.ca wrote: Hi Ryan, This behaviour was bothering me, too. I found that there's a 200ms delay, by default. You can change it in CompizConfig Settings Manager: Thanks for the info - it's interesting that 200ms was chosen as the preferred delay time. I have no idea why anyone would want a delay for this operation. I guess it's so that a quick Alt-Tab doesn't show the switcher, but I was finding that, more often than not, nothing would happen when I hit Alt-Tab very quickly. Application switching is nice and snappy with the delay set to 0. I'm not bothered by momentarily seeing the switcher on a quick alt-tab, but I can understand that it would look ugly to some people. However, changing the delay time to 0.03 seconds allows quick alt-tabs to go without triggering the switcher applet while still feeling responsive if I hold down the Tab key and wait for the switcher to appear. I think the right thing to do here is lower the default delay time. I'd consider the current default a bug, so I've filed it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/759061 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp