Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP!
Hi Terri I understand your frustration at researching using microfilms. I remember that feeling myself, once. Most of us have been there. Some of the old filmed records are pretty awful but learning to read them will come to you in time and with practice. Like everything else in life, just jump in and keep after it. It will get easier! Meanwhile, I would encourage you to use the techniques offered here by others. They are all good ideas/advice. Educate yourself, too, in the key words you need to learn to pick out of the records and what the various words and letters will look like. I am the coordinator for the Azores GenWeb site, located at: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html. There are a lot of very helpful resources there including word lists, a paleography (helping to identify letters, abbreviations, and words), and various How Tos. Take some time as you start out on your research, to check out the help that is waiting there for you. Knowledge will lessen your concerns and make your search much more enjoyable. Also, I would suggest getting a small Portuguese to English dictionary to take with you when you go to read the records. It can be very helpful. I hope this has helped you out. Good luck and happy hunting! Kathy Cardoza On 1/3/10 12:16 AM, Terri wrote: > Can someone please give me some guidance to using the microfilms? How > do you do it when you only have an idea of the years a person maybe be > born in. Looking for someone circa 1880 could mean looking at a few > books for years before and maybe even after I have already ordered > 3 films and i feel so anxious when i see so many of the pages > grainy..and difficult to read (not because it's in Portuguese but the > quality of the film...or pages) and i have no exact date to search. I > am afraid i don't know how to really look at these microfilms for the > information i need and feel discouraged that this is where it ends for > me with the searching unless i take a trip to the Azores to spend my > days at the archives there. I don't want to order any more microfilms > until i understand how to search more effectively without spending 8 > hour days at the library trying to decipher what i'm looking at. > > -- ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb My Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island
Hi Henrietta, I am glad we found a connection!!! It is always a pleasure to find cousins around the world! I am asking your attention to the little differences we have. I would like to clear my doubts. a) Where may I find that BOAVENTURA PIMENTEL is also PAIS as his father was? b) I do not understand your note saying that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are brothers!!! I have a MANUEL son of BOAVENTURA and an ANTÓNIO son of MANUEL. c) You say that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are Brothers… Do you have any dates for these persons? I can send you a GEDCOM. Can you do the same? I also have copies of the original marriage lists from S. Mateus, PRAIA, Graciosa. If you like any information please let me know about. Thank you very much Happy New year! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PACHECO & MONIZ from Nordeste, Sao Miguel
Hi Jesse, I saw your post and was surprised to see the names Pacheco and Moniz. Rosalina Moniz Pacheco is my Deceased Mothers Sister living in Canada and her Husband who is also deceased was named Jose Moniz Pacheco. They were both born in the early 1900s and you said your Ancestors were born in 1850s. I am wondering if this is a strange coincidence or maybe we have something here. Please forward me more information. Carolyn Krok Resendes - Original Message - From: "Jesse" To: "Azores Genealogy" Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] PACHECO & MONIZ from Nordeste, Sao Miguel I've posted about this several times, no success but I try to post every once in awhile when I get a little bit more information in hopes maybe this time I will find a cousin! I am at a dead end with Jose Pacheco and his wife Maria Rosalina Moniz (Possibly Luiz) who were from Nordeste, Sao Miguel. I don't know where to start because I don't have a parish so this has been very challenging for me. They were born in approximately the 1850s. I know this is vague but I wanted to at least give it a shot! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for possible Bolota family relatives here
Terri, You'll probably have to research to about the early 1800s to make a connection. There are a few lucky ones that make a recent connection, but not many. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose D Borba Machado and Tomazia Do Rosario Marriage Records
Sallie: Maybe my list can help you. See attached. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: "Sallie" To: Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose D Borba Machado and Tomazia Do Rosario Marriage Records Thank you all so much for your help with translations. Since moving in May, I have misplaced a list someone had sent me that shows how read dates, and pertinent information on these records. The list had English and Portuguese and the months of the year, and numbers so I could figure out the dates, and also included so much added information too that is on the Marriage, Baptism and Obituary records. If anyone has that list and can email it to me I would really appreciate it. That way hopefully I can be less of a bother to everyone here in the group asking for help in translation. Blessings and Happy New Year, Sallie -- From: "Gayle Machado" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:24 PM To: Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose D Borba Machado and Tomazia Do Rosario Marriage Records (I THINK)... > Sallie, > > If you've received an earlier e-mail from me, then you can ignore this > one. I'm sending a second version because my computer gave me a nasty > message indicating that my mailbox was too full to "Send" the first > message. > > I think I've figured out part of your document : Jose de Borba Machado, > son of Estevao de Borba and Maria das Neves, married Thomazina Maria do > Rosario, daughter of Manuel Machado (Boliscoito ???) and (Margarita ?) do > Rosario on 11 Sept 1786. Everyone was from that parish. > > I'm really out of practice reading parish records, so I won't take offense > if someone else corrects me. But, I hope that some of what I see will > help. > > Happy researching, > Gayle > > > -Original Message- > From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Sallie > Sent: Thu 12/31/2009 3:29 PM > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose D Borba Machado and Tomazia Do Rosario > Marriage Records (I THINK)... > > > WOW... I think I actually just found Jose D Borba Machado and Tomazia Do > Rosario Marriage Records today. > Been a good last 24 hours if this is right!!! Whoo Hoo!!! > > I cant seem to make out much else other than their names on the left side, > and all. I put the link here and the place where I found it too, in case > anyone can tell me if this is in fact those two people and some of the > details of this information here. > > I am on page 054 of Norte Grande Casamentos from 1780-1811. I hope that > this is it because then I will know who their parents are.. (if I can get > it translated that is) again that language barrier.. sigh > > Thanking you all in advance.. > > Blessings, > Sallie > > Norte Grande - Casamentos 1780-1811 > Livro1 > 054 > > > http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVNGC1780-1811/SJVNGC1780-1811_item1/P55.html > > > > > Norte > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." annos = years baptismos = baptisms casamentos = marriages casado = married defunto = deceased dias = days idade = age exposo = boy orphan exposa = girl orphan falecer = die/died falecido = deceased falleceo = died freguesia = parish viuva = wido
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP!
You say that you have 3 films but having a hard time trying to read them. What films do you have? What are the film numbers. Who are you looking for? Name? Time period, etc. I have several films at the FHC. Maybe I can help you. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: "Terri" To: "Azores Genealogy" Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:16 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP! Can someone please give me some guidance to using the microfilms? How do you do it when you only have an idea of the years a person maybe be born in. Looking for someone circa 1880 could mean looking at a few books for years before and maybe even after I have already ordered 3 films and i feel so anxious when i see so many of the pages grainy..and difficult to read (not because it's in Portuguese but the quality of the film...or pages) and i have no exact date to search. I am afraid i don't know how to really look at these microfilms for the information i need and feel discouraged that this is where it ends for me with the searching unless i take a trip to the Azores to spend my days at the archives there. I don't want to order any more microfilms until i understand how to search more effectively without spending 8 hour days at the library trying to decipher what i'm looking at. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island
I too come from that line and have the records for it. Henrietta Mello Mayer. Have found another cousin. - Original Message - From: carab...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island I am related to Francisco Pais. I have his baptismal record. He was baptized on Feb. 18, 1670 in Sao Mateus, Praia. The film is #1547223. I can find the copy if you want it. His father was Mattias Pais. His mother was Maria de Cunha. He married Maria on 18 Aug 1691, also in the Sao Mates parish. The film for that is 1547249. I have a copy of it also. I can find it if you would like a copy. I ended with his parents. I follow the same descendants until you get to Fructuoso José Pimentel. I go through his daughter Maria Izabel Coracao de Jesus instead of his son Manuel. Wow, I haven't found many online connections to my family. How exciting! Happy New Year! Take care, Sherry Barnhurst -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I Gave Myself a Christmas Present
Hi Tom , When I saw your names , I Wondered if you are Tom from Stonington.? Henrietta - Original Message - From: "Thomas da/de Costa Vasconcelos Rodrigues Gouveia Oliveira Cabral" To: "Azores Genealogy" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I Gave Myself a Christmas Present You mean to say that the ship's name was Stubborness??? ;-) My grandmother Oliveira always called me a "Stubborn Boneheaded Podagee" Our Grandmothers must have come over on the same ship! On Dec 23, 7:40 am, "\"E\" Sharp" wrote: > *[?]Merry Christmas to each and every one of you and I hope you have a > wonderful time with your families at this most wonderful time of the > year.* > > I gave myself a Christmas present this year. This past week, after years > of > research, I found the ship my grandmother and her sisters came to the US > on. Was not an easy task and I am happy I stuck with it. It's called > Stubborness. I feel 2010 will also give up her baptism record and that of > her brother and sister. It's called Hope. > > "E" [?] > > B68.gif > < 1KViewDownload > > 003.gif > < 1KViewDownload -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] PACHECO & MONIZ from Nordeste, Sao Miguel
I've posted about this several times, no success but I try to post every once in awhile when I get a little bit more information in hopes maybe this time I will find a cousin! I am at a dead end with Jose Pacheco and his wife Maria Rosalina Moniz (Possibly Luiz) who were from Nordeste, Sao Miguel. I don't know where to start because I don't have a parish so this has been very challenging for me. They were born in approximately the 1850s. I know this is vague but I wanted to at least give it a shot! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP!
I also use a large magnifying glass when I am using the film readers. Staples or Office Max have a good selection at a reasonable price. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of "E" Sharp Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:58 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP! Terri, When I read these films, the first thing I look for is the name, and the first name Maria will drive you crazy, as it seems every other one was Maria - and sometimes when you think the name is something else, chances are they were originally named Maria on the records and the other name is either their middle name of nickname i.e. my Emma was Maria on her baptism record. Then I look for the names of the parents in the text. This is about all you can do when you don't have an exact date. I have done this so many times on many Portuguese, Danish, Polish records and it seems the easiest for me. I don't try to read all the text unless I feel I might have the person I am looking for. Don't get frustrated. If you feel you are getting that way, get up, walk around a bit, do some exercise while sitting and then go back to the screen--sometimes these breaks help. Looking at these films for a very long spell can sometimes make you not see what you are looking for. "E" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP!
Hi Terri, The best way is to start with some smarter searching. It is difficult to search for a birth record because there are many more births than marriages. To search for a birth you have to know the name of the parents because the births only give the first name of the person. Further in the record is given the names of the parents and grandparents. If you have the names of the parents then it may be easier searching for their marriage record. Most marriage records in the 1870-1880 time frame have the parties named in the margin of the record and the record itself gives more information such as the names of the parents, age of the bride & groom, occupation, parish where they were baptized. In the Azores you have to know what village/parish your people are from as this is how records are kept. Also keep in mind the depending on what parish you are looking in will determine what years were filmed. Most filmed records end in 1883/84 as they were filmed in 1983/1984 (100 year rule). So if the person you are looking for was born after that time there is no filmed record available When searching for a birth record I try and narrow it down to as close a date as possible. Then pick a year to search. If the person name was Antonio de Mello then I start by focusing in on every record for a person named Antonio. Sometimes the name "Antonio" is written in the margin and on other records it is in the text of the record. You have to learn where in the record to look. In many of the earlier records they start off with the name "Antonio filho de Manuel de Mello and Antonia de Jesus etc" I hope this helps. You may also try posting what you are looking for with as much information as you have on this list as there may be others searching in the same area. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terri Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:16 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP! Can someone please give me some guidance to using the microfilms? How do you do it when you only have an idea of the years a person maybe be born in. Looking for someone circa 1880 could mean looking at a few books for years before and maybe even after I have already ordered 3 films and i feel so anxious when i see so many of the pages grainy..and difficult to read (not because it's in Portuguese but the quality of the film...or pages) and i have no exact date to search. I am afraid i don't know how to really look at these microfilms for the information i need and feel discouraged that this is where it ends for me with the searching unless i take a trip to the Azores to spend my days at the archives there. I don't want to order any more microfilms until i understand how to search more effectively without spending 8 hour days at the library trying to decipher what i'm looking at. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP!
Terri, When I read these films, the first thing I look for is the name, and the first name Maria will drive you crazy, as it seems every other one was Maria - and sometimes when you think the name is something else, chances are they were originally named Maria on the records and the other name is either their middle name of nickname i.e. my Emma was Maria on her baptism record. Then I look for the names of the parents in the text. This is about all you can do when you don't have an exact date. I have done this so many times on many Portuguese, Danish, Polish records and it seems the easiest for me. I don't try to read all the text unless I feel I might have the person I am looking for. Don't get frustrated. If you feel you are getting that way, get up, walk around a bit, do some exercise while sitting and then go back to the screen--sometimes these breaks help. Looking at these films for a very long spell can sometimes make you not see what you are looking for. "E" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island
Hi Eliseu, BoaventurePimentel Pais is my 4th great grandfather . I His son Manuel Jose Pimentel is my direct line. He married Leonarda Rosa Mello. Their son is Antonio Jose Pimentel. His son is also Antonio Jose Pimentel. His daughter Rosa Emelia Pimentel is my grandfather 's mother. Furtoso and Manuel are brothers. We are coming from the same line. HenriettaMello Mayer My - Original Message - From: Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:15 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island Does anyone have any relation to: GRACIOSA ISLAND FAMILY Francisco Pais (born around 1670) married to Maria Victória. They had: 1. Boaventura Pimentel, born 1703, S. Mateus, Praia. Married to Francisca Pereira de Vasconcelos in 26 of July 1728, S. Mateus, Praia. Francisca was the daughter of Manuel da Cunha de Vasconcelos and Catarina Pereira. They had: a. Manuel José Pimentel, born around 1740, São Mateus, Praia, died after 15 of February 1795. He was married to Leonarda Rosa. They had: i. António (José Pimentel?) ii. José (Pimentel?) iii. Fructuoso José Pimentel, born 8 July 1771, São Mateus, Praia. He was married at São Mateus, Praia in 15 February 1795 to Rosa Joaquina do Coração de Jesus or Rosa Joaquina de Santo António, born 1778, São Mateus, Praia. They had: 1. Manuel de Sousa Pimentel born at São Mateus, Graciosa. He was married to Prudência Rosa do Coração de Jesus in 26 May 1845 at São Mateus, Praia She was the daughter of Bartolomeu (Correia) Picanço and Maria Joaquina de São Francisco. They had: a. José de Sousa da Silva married to Francisca Carolina de Bettencourt in 11 May 1868 at Sta. Cruz (my greatgrandparents) iv. Francisco (José Pimentel?) v. João (Pimentel?) Happy New Year!!! eliseu -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Disappointment with microfilms...HELP!
Can someone please give me some guidance to using the microfilms? How do you do it when you only have an idea of the years a person maybe be born in. Looking for someone circa 1880 could mean looking at a few books for years before and maybe even after I have already ordered 3 films and i feel so anxious when i see so many of the pages grainy..and difficult to read (not because it's in Portuguese but the quality of the film...or pages) and i have no exact date to search. I am afraid i don't know how to really look at these microfilms for the information i need and feel discouraged that this is where it ends for me with the searching unless i take a trip to the Azores to spend my days at the archives there. I don't want to order any more microfilms until i understand how to search more effectively without spending 8 hour days at the library trying to decipher what i'm looking at. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for possible Bolota family relatives here
I was excited to find out that a (young) second cousin of mine is also working on the family tree. We are related on my mothers side but i thought i could help start her also by posting a note here with the group. It doesn't go way back but maybe someone is also from this Bolota line from Sao Miguel , Azores? Here's the info she gave me Manuel de Medeiros Bolota born 28 Feb. 1933 In Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel Azores Son of Antonio Bolota and Maria Teatore Maria Eduina Pimentel born 23 July 1931 in Agua D'Alto, Sao Miguel Azores married Manuel de Medeiros Bolota on 7 Apr. 1956 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NESBITT family in Azores
Thanks Margaret - I'll see if I can work out who she was. It's a pity there was no age, but she may have been one of Eduardo's daughters. Eduardo the electrician, that is :-) Cheers Robyn 2010/1/3 Margaret Vicente : > Hi, > In my research I have come across the Nesbitt name in the passports out of > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel Açores, to America. D. Maria Izabel Nesbitt > Silva. > If you click on the link it will take you to page 164. Look for passport # > 924, passenger # 2736 1883-July-12. You will note age, and town/village was > left blank, only her status "C"/married is shown. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NESBITT family in Azores
Thanks E, That John Augustus was a nephew of the John Augustus who came here in 1855 - Adelaide was his wife and from memory I think that Rebecca was his daughter-in-law. I know about Eric but not the others. I've been in touch with Eric's granddaughter so I'll check to see if she knows who they are. Cheers Robyn 2010/1/3 "E" Sharp : > On the 1930 Australian Electoral Roles, there are: > > Adelaide Victoria Nesbitt, Dangar Village, Narrabri, home duties > John Augustus Nesbitt, Dangar Village, Narrabri, railway employee > Rebecca Adelaide Nesbitt, Glen Eira, Dangar Village, home duties > > He is on several others years. > > On the 1954 Australian Electoral Roles, there are: > > Allan James Nesbitt, Betty Maslin Nesbitt, Eric Nesbitt, Harry Frank > Nesbitt, John Augustus Nesbitt - Mayall Road, Cardiff guard, Keith Nesbitt, > Mary Evelyn Nesbitt, Vincent John Nesbitt. There are a couple of Nesbit > with one T. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NESBITT family in Azores
In a message dated 1/2/2010 8:52:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, robyn...@gmail.com writes: > Hi listers, > > I'm posting this on both the Azores and Portuguese groups as I need > help from both, so I hope this doesn't cause a problem. > > A few months ago I requested and was kindly given some information > about an English family, the NESBITTS, living on Sao Miguel in the > early 19th century. There was a Dr John NESBITT who in 1806 got into > trouble with the law for, I think, smuggling - I found it hard to > understand the documents from the Arquivo. I just used an on-line > translation site and it wasn't all that good. I haven't been able to > find out much about him - whether he stayed in the Azores or went > elsewhere after the court case. I found one reference to him about his > house and garden, known as Pico Do Salomão or Nesbitt's Pico. This was > later bought by the Bensaude family. > > My great great grandfather was John Augustus NESBITT. who came here to > Australia in 1855 and worked on a farm. On the birth certificate for > one of his children he said he was born in Sao Miguel around 1832 and > that his father was George Augustus NESBITT, Harbourmaster. > > I can't find anything for a harbourmaster but plenty for a George > NESBITT that was probably the son of Dr NESBITT. > > A distant cousin found me (through Google) and he has an old letter > from a George Augustus NESBITT dated 1858 addressed from Sao Miguel. > By that time a few of his children were living in Lisbon and he had > wanted to go there too to stay with his son Charles and > daughter-in-law, but they had died in Lisbon of yellow fever the > previous year. This letter was written to John Augustus NESBITT who > was already in Australia. > > George's children (all born in Sao Miguel) appear to be: > > 1. Maria, born in S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada on 4.7.1825 and baptized > there on 14 Aug > 2. Carlos Nesbitt, born on 18.10.1832 (died 10 Nov 1857, Lisbon) > 3. Eduardo Nesbit, born S. Pedro de P. Delgada, married, age 29, on > 23.4.1862 to Maria José Moreira da Câmara. > > But no John or João shows in any record that I've found. > > I have found it very difficult to work out who was married to who - > there seems to have been at least two Georges (Jorge) and possibly > three Johns (João) in Sao Miguel over a period of about 50 years. And > several Isabels - I have records of a John and a George marrying > Elizabeths in England before coming to the Azores and I've been told > that Elizabeth and Isabel are interchangable. But I've also been told > that a Jorge married a local woman, Isabel URION. I'm having a lot of > trouble untangling them. > > Should I get a local professional researcher to sort it out? > > My distant cousin also had some photographs of George - one taken in > 1863 and an earlier one shown wearing medals - on the back is written > G. A. Nesbitt, Belgian Consul, South America, Knighted with the Order > of the Rose by the Emperor of Brazil. I've attached the photos. > > How would I best follow this up? Does anyone know if there is an > English language list for Brazil? > Here is the little that is contained in Genealogias de S. Miguel e Santa Maria. Sorry I can't be of more assistance. Jorge Augusto Nesbitt and Maria Cândida Curado, residents of S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada. were the parents if the following: Jorge Augusto Nesbitt, born in Fajã de Baixo in 1847 and married in Matriz de Ponta Delgada on 6.9.1869 to Joana Clara de Oliveira Freitas, age 22 , native of the same parish, daugher of Inácio Fortunato de Freitas, native of Valença and Flora Hermínia de Oliveira, narive of Nordeste. Maria Luisa Nesbitt, wife of António Alfredo Teixeira Of this Nesbitt family of English origin, João Nesbit, a physician with a degree from Aberdeen, (Vid. Arquivo dos Açores, Vol.º XI pp. 345 - 351), was living in Ponta Delgada in 1806. In Matriz de Ponta Delgada where she was born, Isabel Augusta Nesbitt, daughter of Jorge Nesbitt and Maria Wilisson, married Jorge Augusto Nesbitt, son of João Nesbitt e Isabel Nesbitt (Vid. Dr. Francisco de Ataide M. de Faria e Maia, Capitães Generais, p. 131 ). Jorge Augusto Nesbitt and his wife, Isabel Augusta had the following children: 1.º Maria, born in S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada on 4.7.1825 and baptized on 14.8.1825. 2.º Carlos Nesbitt, born 18.10.1832. 3.º Eduardo Nesbit, born in S. Pedro de P. Delgada in 1833 and married in the same parish on 23.4.1862 to Maria José Moreira da Câmara, daughter of António Moreira da Câmara Coutinho de Melo Cabral, and Ana Felisberta Botelho de Gusmão, paternal granddaughter of Tomé Inácio Moreira da Câmara Melo Cabral and Francisca Tomázia de Arruda e Melo Botelho and maternal granddaughter of José Bento Botelho de Arruda Coutinho de Gusmão and Teresa Claudina Botelho de Gusmão. (For more on these Nesbitt vsee also Arquivo dos Açores, Vol. X p. 409). -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr..
