FW: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question
I'm resending since it didn't go through. From: fishsongf...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:53:57 -0500 This is interesting in my opinion..after Lisa's first email I looked on line at sites regarding rh- factor..ALL kinds of information..but now I'm curious about the blood types among Azoreans.I'm also 100% Azorean Portuguesemy dad was A+ and my mom is O-all 6 children have type A blood..only myself and my youngest sister have RH-.I wonder if type A is prevelant among our population? Also.this is the kind of information I was looking at (DNA) online several years ago when I came across this group.what a fortunate find! Regards, Nancy Santa Maria...Cabral Sao Jorge.Silveira, de Lemos, Baptista, Pereira, Pedrosa, Enos, Oliveira Pico...de Castro, Cardosa, Peixoto, Furtado, Silva From: patli...@verizon.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:38:25 -0400 I'm all Portuguese and I'm A+ like my mom and my father is 0+ as my brother. I remember my aunt and uncle both all Portugues being RH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lisa lema Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:32 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question Good morning all. I am hoping someone here will be able to answer this question for me, as it is pertains to 4 of my 9 living children. What Percentage of people of Portuguese ethnicity is RH -? I have just found out, due to the pregnancy of my daughter that she is RH- and due to her father's ethnicity, is very doubtful that negative factor came from his genetics. While I am on the subject, I suppose I ought to explain a little more. I have 9 living children, 7 girls, 2 boys. I have been married twice, and from the first union, I had 2 girls, one of which is o- rh factor; I lived with a man and had one female child with him, whom is also rh - (a-), and then married my current husband and we had 6 more children, 2 of which (girls) are also rh-( one is O- one is A-). My mother is Swedish, scottish, indian and my father is full blooded portuguese. my mother blood type is O + , my fathers blood type is A+, and mine is A+. from the research I have done,it is extremely rare for native american, black, and scottish peoples to carry the rh negative factor, but a race of people called BASQUES have a very high rate of rh negative blood. Is the Portuguese race considered Basque? and What is the ratio of negative blood type in the Portuguese Race? Any help in this matter would be appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2747 - Release Date: 03/14/10 15:33:00 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. Sign up now. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva descendants
Hi Henrietta, I have Silva's from Sao Mateus and Candelaria, Pico..will my families be in your book? Where might a person purchase your book? Thanks, Nancy Jean Baptista From: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva descendants Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:25:48 -0400 Hi, No my book does not suggest that all Silva's are related. My Silva:Silveira are from Pico. There are Silva, Silveira, Sylva on all the islands. Henrietta - Original Message - From: Vivian Christy To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva descendants Hello Henrietta, Your book does it suggest all da Silva's are related? Or is it just ones that came from a certain Island in the Azores? I have not seen your book yet. Would it be something I should read because my Grandfather was a da Silva? Thank you, Vivian (Silva) Christy --- On Sat, 3/13/10, henriettama...@sbcglobal.net henriettama...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net henriettama...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 8:15 PM Hi, I don't know what book you mean. If it is called Silva Descendants , Portuguese Genealogy by Henrietta Mello Mayer than it is my book . I am doing a supplement and some corrections on it now. When I did the book back in 1965. I didn't have access to the records from the Azores.Some of the names and dates have to be corrected. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
Are any of the Silva/Silveira lines form the Praia do Almoxirife or Pedro Miguel in the Faial. Mary Ann In a message dated 3/16/2010 8:51:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brat.l...@hotmail.com writes: Laura, I also have Silveira and Silva from Faial in my lineage. I am curious if you may also have de Andrade lurking somewhere? thank you, Lisa From: lharrah...@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:23:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name To: azores@googlegroups.com Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eugenia...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre Herculano; 2. Rebelo da Silva (1822-1871); 3. Andrade Corvo (1824-1890); and 4. Arnaldo Gama (1828-1869). Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 2, 1972, page 38. People in Portuguese History: Governor Celestino da Silva, ruled Timor for fourteen years (1894-1908), achieved full conquest of the Portuguese part of the island. Information is from: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, NY, Vol. 2, 1972, page 118. Portuguese in the Arts: 1. Soares dos Reis (1847-1889), a sculptor; 2. Silva Porto (1850-1893), a
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question
Type O and type A are the most prevalent blood types in all countries. It is the same for Azoreans. In fact someone with type O- is considered to be a universal donor with only a few rare exceptions. O+ can be given to people with A+, B+, AB+ and O+, but O- can be given to the other blood types + or - without causing problems. While everyone who is able, should donate blood, people with an O or rare blood type are especially needed as blood donors. As for the RH factor (the + or -); Everyone has two genes that determine your RH. One from each parent. Positive is the dominant gene. If one or both of a person's genes are positive they are positive. Which is why more people are positive. Both genes have to be negative for you to have a negative RH. Nancy, your family is a perfect example. Your father had to have had one positive gene and one negative gene and your mother has two negative genes. That one positive gene being dominant was passed on to 4 of his 6 children while only 2 managed to get a double negative from him. While I think that we a special in so many ways...;) I don't think that we Azoreans are any more likely to have rare blood types or a certain RH factor than any other race. Statistically, we have basically the same ratios as everyone else. For myself, I am very glad to have the most common blood type on the planet (O+). In case I ever need it, it won't be hard to find. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:54 AM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question This is interesting in my opinion..after Lisa's first email I looked on line at sites regarding rh- factor..ALL kinds of information..but now I'm curious about the blood types among Azoreans.I'm also 100% Azorean Portuguesemy dad was A+ and my mom is O-all 6 children have type A blood..only myself and my youngest sister have RH-.I wonder if type A is prevelant among our population? Also.this is the kind of information I was looking at (DNA) online several years ago when I came across this group.what a fortunate find! Regards, Nancy Santa Maria...Cabral Sao Jorge.Silveira, de Lemos, Baptista, Pereira, Pedrosa, Enos, Oliveira Pico...de Castro, Cardosa, Peixoto, Furtado, Silva _ From: patli...@verizon.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:38:25 -0400 I'm all Portuguese and I'm A+ like my mom and my father is 0+ as my brother. I remember my aunt and uncle both all Portugues being RH _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lisa lema Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:32 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question Good morning all. I am hoping someone here will be able to answer this question for me, as it is pertains to 4 of my 9 living children. What Percentage of people of Portuguese ethnicity is RH -? I have just found out, due to the pregnancy of my daughter that she is RH- and due to her father's ethnicity, is very doubtful that negative factor came from his genetics. While I am on the subject, I suppose I ought to explain a little more. I have 9 living children, 7 girls, 2 boys. I have been married twice, and from the first union, I had 2 girls, one of which is o- rh factor; I lived with a man and had one female child with him, whom is also rh - (a-), and then married my current husband and we had 6 more children, 2 of which (girls) are also rh-( one is O- one is A-). My mother is Swedish, scottish, indian and my father is full blooded portuguese. my mother blood type is O + , my fathers blood type is A+, and mine is A+. from the research I have done,it is extremely rare for native american, black, and scottish peoples to carry the rh negative factor, but a race of people called BASQUES have a very high rate of rh negative blood. Is the Portuguese race considered Basque? and What is the ratio of negative blood type in the Portuguese Race? Any help in this matter would be appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2747 - Release Date: 03/14/10 15:33:00 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Gerevas or Gerevasio in New England
In A History of the Azores Islands, author James Guill found the surname Gervais (accent over the a) in the Azores. That looks like the closest to me. I haven't come across that surname where I've been searching. Maybe someone else has. Depending on the time period of naturalization, he may have had to state his Portuguese name. The earlier the naturalization though, the less information was provided. If your you can't find anything on your ancestor, trace his brother or sister in Merced, CA. When your brother finds those notes, go over them again. There may be a clue that has been forgotten. Cheri Mello -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
My great grandfather John Silva was born Nov 1862 in Horta (?) Faial. His mother was a servant in this rich mans house. John Dutra was the name and he was his father. He gave the baby to a neighbor John Mary Ann Silva to raise. When he was about 7 yrs old Dutra took him back to his house to be a servant there. When John was approx. 12 yrs old he signed on as a cabin boy. He came to California, worked hard and saved his money. He returned to Faial when he was 19 yrs old. He married Mary Lena Abrao (Adelina) born Jun 1863 from Flamingos. Her parents were Joao Silveira a Rosa Abrao Mariana Florinda Silva Rodriques. They both died here in California. She, 15 Aug 1911 and he, 30 Mar 1932. both are buried in Calvery Cemetery in San Jose, CA John has been my brick wall for some time now.. I don't know what to do next... Beverly - Original Message - From: lharrah...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:23:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eugenia...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Domingos Moniz
I'd research a church to the right and then to the left of those churches of Ponta Delgada. Or maybe go back to the 3 parishes of Ponta Delgada and look very, very carefully at the page numbers. Are any pages missing? Shirley Allegre and I had this problem. Couldn't find the marriage in the church. We searched parishes to the right and left of the church in question. Couldn't find them. Upon close examination, we noticed the pages jumped from page P to page W. They must have fallen out of the book years ago. When we went to the Azores together, we asked for that book and we looked at it. It was tightly bound and there were no loose pages. We checked the back of the book for loose pages that may have been placed back there and didn't see any. So we figured the lost pages became kindling one very cold, damp night. Sad, sad, sad. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
Hi Lisa, I sure do. My mother's maiden name was Andrade (I don't know about the de) and she was from Capelo, Faial. Hope there's a connection somehow. Thanks, Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 8:51:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brat.l...@hotmail.com writes: Laura, I also have Silveira and Silva from Faial in my lineage. I am curious if you may also have de Andrade lurking somewhere? thank you, Lisa From: lharrah...@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:23:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name To: azores@googlegroups.com Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eugenia...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre Herculano; 2. Rebelo da Silva (1822-1871); 3. Andrade Corvo (1824-1890); and 4. Arnaldo Gama (1828-1869). Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 2, 1972, page 38. People in Portuguese History: Governor Celestino da Silva, ruled Timor for fourteen years (1894-1908), achieved full conquest of the Portuguese part of the island. Information is from: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, NY, Vol. 2, 1972, page 118. Portuguese in the Arts: 1.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
Hi Shirley, My grandfather's full name was Jose Correia da Rosa Silveira and my grandmother was Maria Luisa de Jesus Brum and they lived in Capelo. That's where all 11 of their children were born. Unfortunately that's all I have so far. I do need to contact the various available resources in Horta and LDS to see what they have. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:39:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shir...@digitalpath.net writes: Laura: My husband has Silveira from Flamengos, Faial. Is this where your Silveira are from? Shirley - Original Message - From: _lharrah...@aol.com_ (mailto:lharrah...@aol.com) To: _azo...@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _eugenia...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:eugenia...@yahoo.com) writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre Herculano; 2. Rebelo da Silva (1822-1871); 3. Andrade Corvo (1824-1890); and 4. Arnaldo Gama (1828-1869). Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 2, 1972, page 38. People in Portuguese History: Governor Celestino da Silva, ruled Timor for fourteen
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
I looked for Jose and Maria in my database, but don't have anything. My husbands are all from Flamengos. Sorry Shirley - Original Message - From: lharrah...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name Hi Shirley, My grandfather's full name was Jose Correia da Rosa Silveira and my grandmother was Maria Luisa de Jesus Brum and they lived in Capelo. That's where all 11 of their children were born. Unfortunately that's all I have so far. I do need to contact the various available resources in Horta and LDS to see what they have. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:39:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shir...@digitalpath.net writes: Laura: My husband has Silveira from Flamengos, Faial. Is this where your Silveira are from? Shirley - Original Message - From: lharrah...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eugenia...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book:
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Machado, Domingos Moniz
I am confused. Are you looking all over Sao Miguel? Or just in Ponta Delgada because you know that you ancestor came from there? JR -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Domingos Moniz
Thanks, Cheri Will go back and research and then I'll check a map to see what's around those churches. Yeah, after that, we'll have to go visit the Azores. That would be nice. Thanks, again, maria elena On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'd research a church to the right and then to the left of those churches of Ponta Delgada. Or maybe go back to the 3 parishes of Ponta Delgada and look very, very carefully at the page numbers. Are any pages missing? Shirley Allegre and I had this problem. Couldn't find the marriage in the church. We searched parishes to the right and left of the church in question. Couldn't find them. Upon close examination, we noticed the pages jumped from page P to page W. They must have fallen out of the book years ago. When we went to the Azores together, we asked for that book and we looked at it. It was tightly bound and there were no loose pages. We checked the back of the book for loose pages that may have been placed back there and didn't see any. So we figured the lost pages became kindling one very cold, damp night. Sad, sad, sad. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Domingos Moniz
Thanks, Jacki, I noticed you have Machados also. Can't wait for Saturday; maybe something will hit. Thank you so very much. maria elena On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Jacki G ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: Maria, I currently have the film for Faja de Cima and Faja de Baixo, Sao Miguel at the FHC here. I was planning on going there maybe this Sat. If not, the next Sat for sure. I'll look and see if I can find your Domingos Machado for you. Maybe I'll have more luck finding your person than I have had finding mine. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel -- *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Maria Lima *Sent:* Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:29 PM *To:* azores *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Domingos Moniz Dear Listers, I'm just hoping someone might have a microfilm from Sao Miguel at the FHC from a parish I haven't researched. Domingos Moniz Machado was born in Sao Miguel 8 February 1874. I've searched the freguesias (parishes of: Apostolo de Sao Pedro, Sao Jose and most recently Sao Sebastao (Matrix). I was so sure he would be in Sao Sebastao but was very disappointed when I didn't find him there Now, I ask you where do I go next? I know he had a brother named Clement (Clemencio? sp?) who changed his last name to Marshall. They went to Boston. I need to find their parents or syblings to do any more research on this line and hope someone can help me. Maybe someone has a microfilm on file from any parish in Sao Miguel and could see if he was in that parish. please? His parents were Emilia Moniz and Jacintho Machado Any help would be heavenly Thanks Maria Elena -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
Laura, Would you be open to me sending you the Silveira D'Andrade part of my lineage to you? maybe you could compare my family's names, dob, etc with your own and we could see if there is a link. You may contact my personal email addy if so. brat.l...@hotmail.com Thank you Lisa L From: lharrah...@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:34:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Lisa, I sure do. My mother's maiden name was Andrade (I don't know about the de) and she was from Capelo, Faial. Hope there's a connection somehow. Thanks, Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 8:51:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brat.l...@hotmail.com writes: Laura, I also have Silveira and Silva from Faial in my lineage. I am curious if you may also have de Andrade lurking somewhere? thank you, Lisa From: lharrah...@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:23:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name To: azores@googlegroups.com Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eugenia...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre Herculano; 2. Rebelo da Silva (1822-1871); 3. Andrade Corvo (1824-1890); and 4. Arnaldo Gama (1828-1869). Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF
