[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese citizenship
In response to some of the questions and statements regarding Portuguese citizenship: Reason for wanting citizenship: My reason is purely sentimental, a greater connection with my Azorean grandfather and the family there. In fact, I already possess Irish citizenship and passport via my mother's father, so I have EU status. The U.S. "ignores" other citizenships rather than accepts them. To the U.S., a citizen is a citizen and that's that. Because of the relationship with Israel and that country's granting of citizenship to anyone Jewish, the U.S. has ignored the dual-citizenship issue. As far as the U.S. is concerned, I am only an American citizen. How I found what I needed: I knew my grandfather's village--Flamengos, Faial--and thus knew the parish. All parish records from those years are stored in the new library in Horta. All I had to do was look up his baptism record by the date. He was baptized a few days after his birth, so I easily found the original document. Because I still have a way to go with citizenship, I have only a photocopy for my own interest, not an official copy. When I need that, I will get it. Because of the strong position of the Catholic Church in Portugal, a baptismal record counts as a birth certificate. In fact, there is no birth certificate for most people of that time. When getting Irish citizenship, I used a certified copy of that grandfather's baptism certificate, and that was all that was needed to prove Irish birth. Because my grandparents immigrated (separately) to the U.S., they married in San Francisco, where my mother was born and married and where I was born. The paperwork proving my connection was easily obtained--took about five minutes. My Azorean grandfather also immigrated to San Francisco, where he married my grandmother. My father was also born here. Thus, once I have the Portuguese document, I will easily have everything I need to prove my connection. "Benefits" of EU citizenship: Having EU citizenship allows me to live and work within the EU. However, it does NOT make available all the benefits. I have never paid into any European health plan; thus, I cannot get national health insurance anywhere in the EU. For that, I must be employed and pay the taxes. In 2010, I had a medical emergency and had to pay completely out of pocket. Fortunately, medical care in the EU is nothing close to what is in the U.S. Treatment that would easily have cost over $1,000 cost me about $175. My own medical insurance reimbursed my prescription costs less my co-pay, and the ER cost was less than my co- pay, so I got nothing. An additional reason for pursuing Portuguese citizenship is there are some work possibilities for me there. Should something come through, I would go into the tax system and thus contribute to the various programs such as health care. I could then, possibly, get some kind of coverage. Tomas -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese citizenship
I understand that Americans can have dual citizenship (with other countries that also allow it). On Jan 26, 8:40 am, Pat McCoy wrote: > Does this mean for dual citizenship or the requirement to renounce one > citizenship for the other? > > Pat McCoy > === > On 1/25/12, eric edgar wrote: > > > > > > > > > To become a Portuguese citizen is also to become a Europe Union citizen > > since Portugal is a member state. This means that you are able to recieive > > all benefits they offer. There is a EU Health Insurance Card that > > guarantees quality care across borders, There is the Erasmus Programme of > > University Exchange that offers internships and housing assistance. Look at > > their website for a complete picture > >http://europa.eu/index_en.htm > > > Eric Edgar > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: > > >> What is the reason you would want to become a Portuguese citizen? Do not > >> get me wrong there is nothing wrong with it, I am just trying to > >> understand. > >> I also have a question, in this case does the Azores birth qualify for a > >> grandparent born in Portugal? > > >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:42 AM, m_kent wrote: > > >>> Tomas, > >>> How did you establish proof of connection? Did you get Azorean baptism > >>> and/or birth records certified in the Azores? Who would I contact to > >>> do this? > > >>> On Jan 24, 1:21 am, Tomas Leal wrote: > >>> > My understanding--which was confirmed when I met recently with the > >>> > Portuguese Consul General in San Francisco--is you must meet four > >>> > requirements: > >>> > 1 - Have a grandparent born in Portugal (which means, of course, > >>> > proof of the person's birth and your connection) > >>> > 2 - No criminal record > >>> > 3 - Three years' residency in Portugal > >>> > 4 - Passing a Portuguese language exam > > >>> > For me, only the last one remains, so I'm working on my Portuguese. I > >>> > have the residency, via an affidavit by the president of the village > >>> > in Pico where I have a home and spend "significant portion of the > >>> > year" each year. > > >>> > Tomás Leal > > >>> -- > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > >>> when they arrive. > >>> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > >>> membership." > > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > >> when they arrive. > >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > >> membership." > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese citizenship
No, you can be a US citizen and be a citizen of an EU country. The US sees you just as a US citizen like anyone else. I recently completed a project for a person who was granted Italian citizenship through the grandparents. Their rules differ from Portugal in that they don't require the residency or the languague test. Irish citizenship standards similar to Italy's. I have a friend who's work at the Irish consulate was to verify the genealogical records establishing parentage. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Pat McCoy wrote: > Does this mean for dual citizenship or the requirement to renounce one > citizenship for the other? > > Pat McCoy > === > On 1/25/12, eric edgar wrote: > > To become a Portuguese citizen is also to become a Europe Union citizen > > since Portugal is a member state. This means that you are able to > recieive > > all benefits they offer. There is a EU Health Insurance Card that > > guarantees quality care across borders, There is the Erasmus Programme of > > University Exchange that offers internships and housing assistance. Look > at > > their website for a complete picture > > http://europa.eu/index_en.htm > > > > Eric Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Marilyn Thompson >wrote: > > > >> What is the reason you would want to become a Portuguese citizen? Do not > >> get me wrong there is nothing wrong with it, I am just trying to > >> understand. > >> I also have a question, in this case does the Azores birth qualify for a > >> grandparent born in Portugal? > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:42 AM, m_kent wrote: > >> > >>> Tomas, > >>> How did you establish proof of connection? Did you get Azorean baptism > >>> and/or birth records certified in the Azores? Who would I contact to > >>> do this? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jan 24, 1:21 am, Tomas Leal wrote: > >>> > My understanding--which was confirmed when I met recently with the > >>> > Portuguese Consul General in San Francisco--is you must meet four > >>> > requirements: > >>> > 1 - Have a grandparent born in Portugal (which means, of course, > >>> > proof of the person's birth and your connection) > >>> > 2 - No criminal record > >>> > 3 - Three years' residency in Portugal > >>> > 4 - Passing a Portuguese language exam > >>> > > >>> > For me, only the last one remains, so I'm working on my Portuguese. I > >>> > have the residency, via an affidavit by the president of the village > >>> > in Pico where I have a home and spend "significant portion of the > >>> > year" each year. > >>> > > >>> > Tomás Leal > >>> > >>> -- > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation > directions > >>> when they arrive. > >>> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > >>> membership." > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > >> when they arrive. > >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > >> membership." > >> > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right > > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, Terceira, and Brazil
Hi Joan, You are very early in your family quest for information. All the names you mention are in my files and I am sure in many other's on our list. The thing is that you need to go back at least another gerearation with some good dates of either a birth, baptism, marriage, or death from the parish the person was from. Nossa senhora da Luz would be the parish for Flamengos. Faial is a small Island and at some point we are all related or connected by marriage. Keep at it and with time you'll find more information to grow your family. Emil Emil Silveira Currently Researching: Names and Places; Avila, Horta, Angustias, Faial Silveira, Horta, Sao Salvador, Faial Leal, Horta, Angustias, Faial Vargas, Horta, Almoxarife, Faial - Original Message - From: Joan Jurancich To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:04:57 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, Terceira, and Brazil At 08:49 PM 1/19/2012, you wrote: Repost for Emil, silveira.emil at gmail.com I am just posting a hello to all. I have interest in Family from Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, Brazil and Terceira. I have been cleaning up my files and have made many corrections. I keep monitoring the list and all though silent most of the time, I check each post against my recorded information. Best to all Emil Emil Silveira Currently Researching: Names and Places; Avila, Horta, Angustias, Faial Silveira, Horta, Sao Salvador, Faial Leal, Horta, Angustias, Faial Vargas, Horta, Almoxarife, Faial I, too, am searching for ancestors from Faial. One branch is, according to information from my great-aunt, from Flamengos: family names Pereira (da) Rosa, Silva, Fialho, Gonsalves. The earliest dates I have are for Thomas Pereira Rose, b. 1833 in Flamengos, Faial, d. 1929 in Fremont (Alvarado), CA. He married Maria Claudina Fialho in Mission San Jose, CA, dau. of Joao Fialho and Maria Claudina. According to the notes from my g-aunt: Thomas Rose came to San Francisco on a whaling ship & jumped ship to go to the gold fields during the Gold Rush. He returned to the Alvarado area and bought 17 acres from George Patterson with proceeds from his gold panning. After a few years he paid passage for Maria Claudina Fialho to come from the Azores to marry him. He did not know her personally, so in essence she was a "mail-order bride." She stayed with relatives in Decoto (Union City) and he gave her six months to decide if she wanted to marry him. The property remained in the family until Thomas's daughter, Rita, sold it in 1958. [Rita was the second child, born June 06, 1872, in Fremont (Alvarado), CA, and died April 1967 in Fremont.] I do not (yet) have birth and death dates for Thomas Pereira Rose, Jr., the oldest child. Thomas & Maria Claudina's third child was my g-grandmother, Anna Eugenia Pereira Rose (b. April 22, 1878, Fremont (Alvarado), CA; d. December 31, 1963, Fremont). Anna Eugenia married Manuel Gonsalves da Silva on Dec. 30, 1893, in Fremont (Centerville), CA. I have a picture of my g-grandparents & their 7 living children from c. 1939 (my mother identified everyone in the picture for me); I knew my G-Grandma Silva, though not well (I was 14 y.o. when she died). Do any of these people sound familiar? For now, I am hypothesizing that Maria Claudina Fialho came from Flamengos, Faial. I am not certain what village Manuel Gonsalves da Silva was from, but he also was an immigrant from Faial, possibly(?) Flamengos. Too bad I wasn't interested in family history when my G-Grandma Silva was still alive. :-( I am eagerly awaiting the time when the Faial records come on-line, though I may be able to make a trip to Faial before that, given the slow pace of digitizing and up-loading. |-O Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] LEWIS as a surname from Portugal
Oops, that should be his DEATH certificate, not birth certificate. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Lorinda Sevenans wrote: > My grandfather was born in Vila do Topa, Sao Jorges and immigrated to > California at age 10 with his widowed mother and two younger siblings. He > was Joseph Souza Lewis. His birth certificate lists his father's name as ? > Luiz (no first name). That's as far as I've gone so far in that line. His > mother's name was Mary. > > Just wanted to let you know that it's possible that the name was changed > when they came to the US. > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:01 AM, eric edgar wrote: > >> My family used Luiz as a surname. My mom's grandfather came form Flores >> as Manuel Luiz Noia. He had a cousin in California with the same name, and >> other Manuel Noias in town, so he filed his citzenship papers without the >> Noia. >> >> My grandfather used the Lewis spelling at times in the 30s and 40s. >> >> Eric Edgar >> >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:46 AM, wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Hi Betty, >>> >>> My grandfather, Francisco Jose Luiz from Faial, came to this country in >>> the 1800's and by the 1900 census had changed his name to Frank J. Lewis. >>> Lewis has been the family name since. However, the tombstone on the family >>> plot in Sacrament, Ca. is inscribed Luiz. >>> >>> Mary Ann >>> In a message dated 1/25/2012 9:16:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>> bbffr...@comcast.net writes: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> The other day I was doing a look-up in census records for another >>> researcher. They were looking for a William LEWIS in Bristol County, >>> Massachusetts.It could have been anywhere in the 1880 to 1920 >>> timeframe. I was surprised when I saw in the 1900 census that >>> there were 10 Joseph LEWIS' and 10 Mary LEWIS' listed, with most >>> born in Portugual, Azores, Madeira. >>> >>> I hadn't thought of LEWIS as a Portuguese surname. One of my >>> ancestors was a LEWIS and he was from England, and it is popular >>> there. And LEWIS is a popular name in Wales. >>> >>> FYI: I just saw the other discussion in the Group this morning, >>> and I can mention something. My step-son sometimes travels to >>> Europe for his job, and last fall he called to ask about his Azorean >>> ancestors. I don't remember the exact details, but the summary is >>> that, IF he could say that his grandparents were born in the Azores, >>> he could travel to some of the countries in Europe without a >>> passport (perhaps Portugal?). But, I had done basic research on >>> his father's family-tree, and it was the step-son's great- >>> grandparents who were born in the Azores.So, that didn't >>> count. His father's father was born in Massachusetts. >>> >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) >>> >>> >>> >>> (I've posted before about the Antonio PACHECO, b1885 near Ponta >>> Delgada, Sao Miguel, and Elsie MOURA, b~1892 probably in Sao >>> Miguel.Both arrived separately ~1905, and married in Cambridge, MA >>> in 1911.I was told that the father, Francisco MOURA, might have >>> originated in Santa Maria.Tony's father was Joao PACHECO.) >>> >>> (I've never had the time to attempt to find the ships they traveled >>> on.I also have not had the time to try to find out whether "Frank" >>> MOURA came to the US when his wife and children came to MA ~1910. >>> He could have been killed at sea as a Whaler, or the couple >>> separated.) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation >>> directions when they arrive. >>> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >>> when they arrive. >>> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> > > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation di
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] LEWIS as a surname from Portugal
My grandfather was born in Vila do Topa, Sao Jorges and immigrated to California at age 10 with his widowed mother and two younger siblings. He was Joseph Souza Lewis. His birth certificate lists his father's name as ? Luiz (no first name). That's as far as I've gone so far in that line. His mother's name was Mary. Just wanted to let you know that it's possible that the name was changed when they came to the US. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:01 AM, eric edgar wrote: > My family used Luiz as a surname. My mom's grandfather came form Flores as > Manuel Luiz Noia. He had a cousin in California with the same name, and > other Manuel Noias in town, so he filed his citzenship papers without the > Noia. > > My grandfather used the Lewis spelling at times in the 30s and 40s. > > Eric Edgar > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:46 AM, wrote: > >> ** >> Hi Betty, >> >> My grandfather, Francisco Jose Luiz from Faial, came to this country in >> the 1800's and by the 1900 census had changed his name to Frank J. Lewis. >> Lewis has been the family name since. However, the tombstone on the family >> plot in Sacrament, Ca. is inscribed Luiz. >> >> Mary Ann >> In a message dated 1/25/2012 9:16:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> bbffr...@comcast.net writes: >> >> Hello, >> >> The other day I was doing a look-up in census records for another >> researcher. They were looking for a William LEWIS in Bristol County, >> Massachusetts.It could have been anywhere in the 1880 to 1920 >> timeframe. I was surprised when I saw in the 1900 census that >> there were 10 Joseph LEWIS' and 10 Mary LEWIS' listed, with most >> born in Portugual, Azores, Madeira. >> >> I hadn't thought of LEWIS as a Portuguese surname. One of my >> ancestors was a LEWIS and he was from England, and it is popular >> there. And LEWIS is a popular name in Wales. >> >> FYI: I just saw the other discussion in the Group this morning, >> and I can mention something. My step-son sometimes travels to >> Europe for his job, and last fall he called to ask about his Azorean >> ancestors. I don't remember the exact details, but the summary is >> that, IF he could say that his grandparents were born in the Azores, >> he could travel to some of the countries in Europe without a >> passport (perhaps Portugal?). But, I had done basic research on >> his father's family-tree, and it was the step-son's great- >> grandparents who were born in the Azores.So, that didn't >> count. His father's father was born in Massachusetts. >> >> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) >> >> >> >> (I've posted before about the Antonio PACHECO, b1885 near Ponta >> Delgada, Sao Miguel, and Elsie MOURA, b~1892 probably in Sao >> Miguel.Both arrived separately ~1905, and married in Cambridge, MA >> in 1911.I was told that the father, Francisco MOURA, might have >> originated in Santa Maria.Tony's father was Joao PACHECO.) >> >> (I've never had the time to attempt to find the ships they traveled >> on.I also have not had the time to try to find out whether "Frank" >> MOURA came to the US when his wife and children came to MA ~1910. >> He could have been killed at sea as a Whaler, or the couple >> separated.) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese citizenship
Does this mean for dual citizenship or the requirement to renounce one citizenship for the other? Pat McCoy === On 1/25/12, eric edgar wrote: > To become a Portuguese citizen is also to become a Europe Union citizen > since Portugal is a member state. This means that you are able to recieive > all benefits they offer. There is a EU Health Insurance Card that > guarantees quality care across borders, There is the Erasmus Programme of > University Exchange that offers internships and housing assistance. Look at > their website for a complete picture > http://europa.eu/index_en.htm > > Eric Edgar > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: > >> What is the reason you would want to become a Portuguese citizen? Do not >> get me wrong there is nothing wrong with it, I am just trying to >> understand. >> I also have a question, in this case does the Azores birth qualify for a >> grandparent born in Portugal? >> >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:42 AM, m_kent wrote: >> >>> Tomas, >>> How did you establish proof of connection? Did you get Azorean baptism >>> and/or birth records certified in the Azores? Who would I contact to >>> do this? >>> >>> >>> On Jan 24, 1:21 am, Tomas Leal wrote: >>> > My understanding--which was confirmed when I met recently with the >>> > Portuguese Consul General in San Francisco--is you must meet four >>> > requirements: >>> > 1 - Have a grandparent born in Portugal (which means, of course, >>> > proof of the person's birth and your connection) >>> > 2 - No criminal record >>> > 3 - Three years' residency in Portugal >>> > 4 - Passing a Portuguese language exam >>> > >>> > For me, only the last one remains, so I'm working on my Portuguese. I >>> > have the residency, via an affidavit by the president of the village >>> > in Pico where I have a home and spend "significant portion of the >>> > year" each year. >>> > >>> > Tomás Leal >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >>> when they arrive. >>> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Occupation
So perhaps, it sounds like electrician, self employed. Thanks Eric! On Jan 25, 2012, at 1:20 PM, eric edgar wrote: Adair, I read the city directory. It says Borba, Charles electn h 1664 48th street. He was a electrician . the h is for home. the i is a 1. Eric Edgar On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Adair Borba wrote: One of my great uncles(Charles Borba) occupation keeps coming up on census as "Electn HI"...does anyone know what this means? Adair Borba -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
