RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIO/ROSE ancestry
Sharon,
Do you know much about your Rosa line? I too have Rosa {Rose, Rosa, Roza or
De La Rosa} from the Hollister and Tres Penos areas of San Benito County. I
haven't come across any connection yet on the Pio name. From the research I
have to far, my Da Rosa line comes from Pico.
I do have a relative, by way or marriage, who's involved in local research
of the San Benito County area. I'd be happy to direct you to where you can
find her. She was a wealth of information with my Da Rosa family line.
Robin Borba Besotes
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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sharon1940
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:07 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIO/ROSE ancestry
My ggrandmother was Florence PIO, b. Aug 1866 in the Azores d. Oct.
1929 in Watsonville, CA. I do not know where she was born would
appreciate any info. Her parents were Joseph b. abt. 1845 Josephine b.
abt. 1835. I have no further info on them would appreciate any direction
anyone can give to locate them. I do not believe they came to the USA.
Florence married Jacintho Leal Rosa (or da Rosa or Rose) but I do not have
the date of their marriage. They had 4 children born in Mission San Jose
the youngest was my grandmother Adeline.
They were divorced sometime betwen 1891 1897, but I do no have a specific
date. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Headed to Azores tonight, geneology reseach tips?
Any tips on where to go to do some research while in San Migual or Faial? My mom's parents below. Father - Manuel Simmons Born in Fayal, AZ Occupation - cooper Mother - Francisca Emilia Simmons Born in Pico, AZ Found a funeral prayer card for Frances Simmons, died 1/12/1954 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores website
Does anyone know what happened to the CCA website? It has been down (404 message) since Wednesday night. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Headed to Azores tonight, geneology reseach tips?
Hi Sarah Michael Juros, I'm sorry to say that it is a little late now to prepare for a research trip. On Sao Miguel, I would see the sights. Horta, Faial does house the genealogy records (over 100 years old) for both Faial and Pico (as well as Flores and Corvo). But you don't give dates for your ancestors, so if their births or marriages are within the last 100 years, you'll need to request a copy for the Civil Registry. Someone who died in 1954 could have been 20, 40, or 65 years old, so again, I don't know where to tell you where to look. Also, you don't provide the village/freguesia. You won't be able to research without the fregueia. Faial isn't that bad though. I think there's about a dozen parishes there. Also, I would not use American abbreviation. AZ is the United States postal abbreviation for Arizona. I believe for international postal abbreviations, it means Azerbaijan. The Azores doesn't have a postal abbreviation. Since this list is Azores focused, you can probably forget about stating it's in the Azores! Sorry if this sounds negative. I just don't want you to get your hopes up of finding anything when you don't have the village/freguesia in hand. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores website
Last fall, they were going to move the CCA server to this web site: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ I don't know if it's official yet, but it seems to work. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Headed to Azores tonight, geneology reseach tips?
Hello, Congrats on going to the Azores! Can I ask which route you decided on? and from where you will depart? Thanks, Greg Dias born San Francisco 1948 Grandfather Manuel Garcia Dias born 1888 Faial Great Grandfather Vitorino Furtado Dias Born 1854 Faial, Praia do Almoxarife -Original Message- From: Sarah Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:20 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Headed to Azores tonight, geneology reseach tips? Any tips on where to go to do some research while in San Migual or Faial? My mom's parents below. Father - Manuel Simmons Born in Fayal, AZ Occupation - cooper Mother - Francisca Emilia Simmons Born in Pico, AZ Found a funeral prayer card for Frances Simmons, died 1/12/1954 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores website
Thanks so much, Cheri! On Feb 17, 10:03 am, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Last fall, they were going to move the CCA server to this web site:http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ I don't know if it's official yet, but it seems to work. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIO/ROSE ancestry
Robin,
My info on the Rosa line is limited. Jacintho was born abt 1852 in Pico. His
father was Manuel, mother unknown. 1871 moved to California. 1877 in Half Moon
Bay, 1880 in Eden Township, Alameda, children with Florence PIO in 1884, 1885,
1886 1890 in Mission San Jose. Moved to Hollister abt. 1899. Purchased a
ranch in the Southside District, 30 Oct. 1907. d. 13 Sep 1917. That is all I
have. What info do you have? I would be very interesting in talking with your
relative.
Sharon
From: Besotes beso...@succeed.net
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Sent: Thu, February 16, 2012 8:01:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIO/ROSE ancestry
Sharon,
Do you know much about your Rosa line? I too have Rosa {Rose, Rosa, Roza or
De La Rosa} from the Hollister and Tres Penos areas of San Benito County. I
haven't come across any connection yet on the Pio name. From the research I
have to far, my Da Rosa line comes from Pico.
I do have a relative, by way or marriage, who's involved in local research
of the San Benito County area. I'd be happy to direct you to where you can
find her. She was a wealth of information with my Da Rosa family line.
Robin Borba Besotes
-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sharon1940
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:07 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIO/ROSE ancestry
My ggrandmother was Florence PIO, b. Aug 1866 in the Azores d. Oct.
1929 in Watsonville, CA. I do not know where she was born would
appreciate any info. Her parents were Joseph b. abt. 1845 Josephine b.
abt. 1835. I have no further info on them would appreciate any direction
anyone can give to locate them. I do not believe they came to the USA.
Florence married Jacintho Leal Rosa (or da Rosa or Rose) but I do not have
the date of their marriage. They had 4 children born in Mission San Jose
the youngest was my grandmother Adeline.
They were divorced sometime betwen 1891 1897, but I do no have a specific
date. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Headed to Azores tonight, geneology reseach tips?
I gather from other members of this group that in the past few years the Regional Archives housed in the Azorean public libraries in Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Angra do Heroísmo, Terceira, and Horta, Faial, no longer permit patrons to handle the original baptismal, marriage or death registry books, but you can still look at them online in the libraries and print out (for a modest charge) the scanned pages. At the PDL library there are some staff who speak excellent English (I recall in particular one lady with a degree from York University in Canada), while not so much in Horta. Still, the staff might be able to help you decipher some of the writing in those records. As I posted to someone else in this group on another thread recently, if there are places you want to visit, and you can afford it, it may be worthwhile to have your hotel desk clerk or concierge line up a bilingual tour guide to show you around Faial (it's not very big), and request ahead of time an emphasis on the villages where your family is from, mentioning your family surnames -- because your guide may know some folks and places there that you'd enjoy going to see. Back in 2004, the rate was 20 Euros/hour, so it might be more by now. Boa viagem! Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosa Frank Smith
Kim, I just had a long conversation with my mother. She read to me from a book that David Freitas (grandson of Manuel T. Freitas) wrote. Here's what I got.. Francisco Sodre, 4th son of Manuel V. Sodre and Anna Josephine Francisco Sodre also went by the name of Frank Smith, born on San Jorge 4/8/1855 (different from your Frank Smith). Went to New Bedford, MA; was there from 1872-75, then on to Marin (Corte Madera). He married Rosa in 1884, they had 5 children: Anita, Rosa, Maye (my mother knew her), Inez and Josephine (no Marie [Freitas]). Frank Rosa moved to Marinwood and leased a dairy. At some point he became the manager of Manuel T. Freitas' home ranch. Here's what I have on Maria Bettencourt. Parents were Rosa de Silviera (she had 5 brothers who used the name Silva) and Joao Bettencourt. Joao was first married to an English woman. Maria was born in (1879) on Soa Jorge, Riberira de Areia (the same village by grandmother came from). Rosa and Joao moved to Boston, had 2 additional children that subsequently died. Joao changed his name here to John Sylvester -- was a whaling ship captain (I don't know that I quite believe that). Joao died and Rosa's brothers moved her to Marin . She married one of her brother's neighbors, Francisco Vicente Naciemento Sodre. I guess it's the same Frank in both accounts (???) I'm not sure how/if this Frank is a relative of MT Freitas. Once I get the book from my mother I'll through it and see what else I can find. I need a large white board to sort this all out. So, are you a descendant of Rosa? ~Deborah On Feb 16, 6:44 pm, Kim Rowe te...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Deborah, Frank Smith was also a dairyman. I have come up with the following names this family has used. Bettencourt (and any way you can spell bettencourt) Freitas Henriques Silveria Silvester Sodre Frank Rosa Smith's daughter Mary married Manuel T. Freitas in 1896 in I think Marin County. What information do you have on Frank Rosa Smith or Manuel Mary Freitas? Kim From: Deborah Keller47 dlk...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:20 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosa Frank Smith Did Frank Smith EVER use his name Silva? My grandmother's uncle Frank Silva (from Sao Jorge) was a dairyman. He had a daughter named Mary (May) that I know for sure was my grandmother's first cousin. ~Deborah On Jan 3, 11:42 pm, Kim Rowe te...@bellsouth.net wrote: Elaine, My great grandmother that lived in Butte County name was Mary Henriques. Henriques was her maiden name according to my grandmothers social security application in 1936. Thank you, Kim From: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:58 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa Frank Smith Kim, Do you have this? Is this them? Applying for a Passport for a trip back to from Azores to US for embarking and landing. Frank Smith July 3, 1901, consulate, Sao Miguel. Travelling with wife Rosa Smith, children: Annie Smith b. 9/26/1884, Rosa Smith b. Jan 18, 1889, Mary Smith b. 8/3/1895, Agnes Smith b. 7/27/1895. All b. San Rafael CA. It says Frank was born in Sao Jorge Apr. 28, 1856, came to US on the Schooner Galena from Sao Jorge June 19, 1874 and he has resided in San Rafael for 26 years, 1874-1900. He was naturalized Aug. 1, 1881, Superior Court, San Rafael CA. He is a dairyman. They left the US Sep 12, 1900, landed in Sao Jorge Sep 24, 1900 and resided in Sao Jorge since Sep 24, 1900. He is temporarily residing in Sao Miguel for 30 days awating this Passport. Signed July 2, 1901 Consulate in Sao Miguel. I can send you a copy in the mail. In the meantime, I will try and find their ship's manifest on the way back and maybe to the Passportes from Sao Miguel which will give you her birth name. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[AZORES-Genealogy] Se' d'Angra Terceira
I have a bit of a Terceira history/geography question that is driving me crazy. Francisco Machado Barcellos was baptized about 1872 at Se' d'Angra according to his marriage certificate in 1896 when he was then residing in Sao Bartolomeu (natural baptizado na freguesia da Se' d'Angra concelho Diocese dita, morador na freguesia de Sao Bartolomeu dos Rigatos do dita concelho Diocese). On the CCA site, they have data for Se' but only to about 1800, nothing later. Before I go renting lots of film, I guess what I am wondering is where do I look for Francisco's baptismal record, Santa Luzia, Se Cathedral, Nossa Senora de Conceicao, or all of them, even including the other two churches in Angra do Heroismo? Does Se' in 1896 refer to a specific church, as opposed to present day, so they didn't need to elaborate? I also got the dreaded sendo o nubente filho de pais nao sabidos concerning Francisco's parents on his marriage record, although one (but not others) of his son's baptismal record listed his grandmother as Aldina Teodora, so I have a clue, but I really need to look in the right place given his common name, methinks. Thanks for any help or advice, Duane -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Se' d'Angra Terceira
Duane, Have you tried using Joao Ventura to do this research for you. His charges are very affordable and his turn around very fast and he is very familiar with these records. E On , Duane dua...@gmail.com wrote: I have a bit of a Terceira history/geography question that is driving -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores website
Real Ice Cream???..They did have to do something in the day... On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Last fall, they were going to move the CCA server to this web site: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ I don't know if it's official yet, but it seems to work. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores website
Sorry, sent to this address in error... On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Donna Olovson wrote: Real Ice Cream???..They did have to do something in the day... On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Last fall, they were going to move the CCA server to this web site: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ I don't know if it's official yet, but it seems to work. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Site Change
I received another match for a family member today on FTDNAimagine my surprise.they have changed the site.I am completely lost. I did manage to find this match but what is going on with all this stuff. It used to be so easy, and being a person who does not like change very much...probably a product of my age...I find this a little difficult to follow. Am I the only one confused by all of this? E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
