Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira
Tenho João dos Santos Toledo married (third time)).(23-05-1713) with Maria de Jesus (b. Quatro Ribeiras) filha de Francisco Machado Ferreira e de Maria Godinho. Son : Antonio dos Santos (b. 22-01-1735, Quatro Ribeiras) married with Maria da Encarnação filha de Manoel Alveres Ourique e de Margarida do Rosario Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Segunda-feira, 14 de Julho de 2014 22:55, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net escreveu: They were all from Terceira. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Eliseu Pacheco da Silva To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 8:24 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira The Toledo you have are related somehow to Graciosa Island or not?. Is there any Toledo immigrating to Brasil? Do you know if they are mentioned in the Book Genealogias da Terceira? Thank you J De:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Shirley Allegre Enviada: domingo, 13 de Julho de 2014 19:47 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira I have some TOLEDOs in my database from Quatro Ribeira, Terceira. Who are you looking for??? I have several TOLEDO listed. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From:Eliseu Pacheco da Silva To:AZORES GENEALOGY - Google group Sent:Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:03 AM Subject:[AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira Good Morning J ! Does anyone have the surname TOLEDO (Toledo dos Santos or Santos Toledo) from Quatro Ribeiras? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What does Recebidos em sanctos mean?
It's an oiled onction made at the end of the catholoc batism Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 6 de Julho de 2014 15:47, JR jmro...@gmail.com escreveu: Yes, recebidos means married. Sanctos means holy. So Holy matrimony, essentially. JR On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:29:01 AM UTC-4, E Sharp wrote: I found this on a baptism record and after the names of the parents and where they were baptized, it says recebidos em sanctos. I gather it is something about their marriage??? or what does it mean? Thank you. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help deciphering a name
I'm having trouble figuring out Angella da Costa's father's name - it is Mel Roiz da Costa (Manuel Rodriquez da Costa). Any help would be much appreciated! Here's a screenshot and the link to the document. Thanks. MaryAnn Santos https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_woEVfDLwKs/U9zIYTPJReI/ACo/6Bu45w8AqAc/s1600/Screen+Shot+2014-08-02+at+7.11.43+AM.png http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1648-1707/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1648-1707_item1/P16.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help deciphering a name
MaryAnn, Upper right, bottom left...where do you want people to look? Rodrigues is Portuguese, Rodriguez is Spanish. No q is involved. Just so you get it right in your computer program, as we should have it all spelled the same. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help deciphering a name
Sorry, entry I need help with is for Sebastião da Costa, left page. I can't make out the name of the bride's (Angella da Costa) father. Thank you. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: MaryAnn, Upper right, bottom left...where do you want people to look? Rodrigues is Portuguese, Rodriguez is Spanish. No q is involved. Just so you get it right in your computer program, as we should have it all spelled the same. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- *MaryAnn Santos* Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu Follow us at *Twitter / @NYUart https://twitter.com/NYUartInstagram / @nyuart http://instagram.com/nyuart* *Facebook / NYU Art Department https://www.facebook.com/pages/NYU-Art-Department/53833145389* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
I'm reading ausente/auzente as well. The groom's father was absent. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help deciphering a name
MaryAnn, The Father of the bride is Manuel Rodrigues (Roiz) da Costa. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 10:11 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote: Sorry, entry I need help with is for Sebastião da Costa, left page. I can't make out the name of the bride's (Angella da Costa) father. Thank you. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: MaryAnn, Upper right, bottom left...where do you want people to look? Rodrigues is Portuguese, Rodriguez is Spanish. No q is involved. Just so you get it right in your computer program, as we should have it all spelled the same. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- *MaryAnn Santos* Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu Follow us at *Twitter / @NYUart https://twitter.com/NYUartInstagram / @nyuart http://instagram.com/nyuart* *Facebook / NYU Art Department https://www.facebook.com/pages/NYU-Art-Department/53833145389* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What does Recebidos em sanctos mean?
Hello Philippe, You've got the answer for recebidos but I would like to add that normally it names the place where the marriage took place...recebidos em Santos is indicative of *where* but I would need to see the document. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 6:44 AM, 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: It's an oiled onction made at the end of the catholoc batism Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 6 de Julho de 2014 15:47, JR jmro...@gmail.com escreveu: Yes, recebidos means married. Sanctos means holy. So Holy matrimony, essentially. JR On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:29:01 AM UTC-4, E Sharp wrote: I found this on a baptism record and after the names of the parents and where they were baptized, it says recebidos em sanctos. I gather it is something about their marriage??? or what does it mean? Thank you. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
Yeah absent. Thanks Cheri that makes sense. Possibly he was sick or didn't approve of the marriage and did not attend. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reading ausente/auzente as well. The groom's father was absent. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-M7bsSVbeQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
Or the groom's dad had to work. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:28 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Yeah absent. Thanks Cheri that makes sense. Possibly he was sick or didn't approve of the marriage and did not attend. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reading ausente/auzente as well. The groom's father was absent. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-M7bsSVbeQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
Right. Who would take care of the cows or fish for dinner???lol Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Or the groom's dad had to work. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:28 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Yeah absent. Thanks Cheri that makes sense. Possibly he was sick or didn't approve of the marriage and did not attend. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reading ausente/auzente as well. The groom's father was absent. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-M7bsSVbeQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-M7bsSVbeQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Filtering Family Finder matches within the Azores project
Who was asking me how they can filter their matches within just one project, such as the Azores project? Roberta Estes, genetic genealogist, explains today in her blog, DNA Explained: http://goo.gl/w8hs2s She assumes we have no intermarriage (32 separate lines at 5 generations) but you can understand what she means. She also explains a little bit about what it means to be a match or not. Of course, this only works if you are part of the Azores project. We ask that you order through the Azores project because that automatically joins you. Some people don't know about projects and are just out there in the main FTDNA database without a home. So you won't see everyone, but if you have too many matches, the filtering people will help. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogy Workshop: Saturday, September 13, Rhode Island
On Saturday, September 13th, from 8:30 - 4pm, George Pacheco and I are going to present a Portuguese genealogy class in Rhode Island. It's going to be fast and furious! The morning session will be using American sources to find your freguesia. I will do a real scaled down DNA lecture and software review too (or that's my plan right now). After lunch, George will do the Portuguese records, and what to look for and then we will be off to the lab for the hands-on session where you can look at the CCA records and get assistance! It's similar to Salt Lake, but on a much smaller scale since we have only 6 ot 6.5 hours to present everything. $40 includes morning coffee and a light lunch. Because the announcement was designed as a graphic it'll get thrown into people's spam filters (or the Google Group will throw me in the spam filter for sending a graphic! It's not picky! I've found myself in there before!) So if you want the detailed information, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and I'll get the info to you. Thanks! Cheri Mello George Pacheco Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help deciphering a name
Thank you, Margaret. I thought that might be it but wasn't sure. Originally, I wrote the name as Melchior - don't have a clue where I got that from! Best, MaryAnn On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: MaryAnn, The Father of the bride is Manuel Rodrigues (Roiz) da Costa. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 10:11 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote: Sorry, entry I need help with is for Sebastião da Costa, left page. I can't make out the name of the bride's (Angella da Costa) father. Thank you. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: MaryAnn, Upper right, bottom left...where do you want people to look? Rodrigues is Portuguese, Rodriguez is Spanish. No q is involved. Just so you get it right in your computer program, as we should have it all spelled the same. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- *MaryAnn Santos* Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu Follow us at *Twitter / @NYUart https://twitter.com/NYUartInstagram / @nyuart http://instagram.com/nyuart* *Facebook / NYU Art Department https://www.facebook.com/pages/NYU-Art-Department/53833145389* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- *MaryAnn Santos* Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu Follow us at *Twitter / @NYUart https://twitter.com/NYUartInstagram / @nyuart http://instagram.com/nyuart* *Facebook / NYU Art Department https://www.facebook.com/pages/NYU-Art-Department/53833145389* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Genealogy Workshop: Saturday, September 13, Rhode Island
I love how all these Genealogical or DNA events are centered around the middle of the month, right before our tax deadline, on the 15th. The one in DC, the one in TX and now this in Sept. K On Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:51:44 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: On Saturday, September 13th, from 8:30 - 4pm, George Pacheco and I are going to present a Portuguese genealogy class in Rhode Island. It's going to be fast and furious! The morning session will be using American sources to find your freguesia. I will do a real scaled down DNA lecture and software review too (or that's my plan right now). After lunch, George will do the Portuguese records, and what to look for and then we will be off to the lab for the hands-on session where you can look at the CCA records and get assistance! It's similar to Salt Lake, but on a much smaller scale since we have only 6 ot 6.5 hours to present everything. $40 includes morning coffee and a light lunch. Because the announcement was designed as a graphic it'll get thrown into people's spam filters (or the Google Group will throw me in the spam filter for sending a graphic! It's not picky! I've found myself in there before!) So if you want the detailed information, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and I'll get the info to you. Thanks! Cheri Mello George Pacheco Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Filtering Family Finder matches within the Azores project
Thanks! I've seen that page, just didn't realize that there was a way to do it with the Projects. But I'm glad that there is, which what I was hoping for not realizing it was there all along. On Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:27:53 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Who was asking me how they can filter their matches within just one project, such as the Azores project? Roberta Estes, genetic genealogist, explains today in her blog, DNA Explained: http://goo.gl/w8hs2s She assumes we have no intermarriage (32 separate lines at 5 generations) but you can understand what she means. She also explains a little bit about what it means to be a match or not. Of course, this only works if you are part of the Azores project. We ask that you order through the Azores project because that automatically joins you. Some people don't know about projects and are just out there in the main FTDNA database without a home. So you won't see everyone, but if you have too many matches, the filtering people will help. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Genealogy Workshop: Saturday, September 13, Rhode Island
I'm interested! Where in RI? On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Kalani N mamoah...@gmail.com wrote: I love how all these Genealogical or DNA events are centered around the middle of the month, right before our tax deadline, on the 15th. The one in DC, the one in TX and now this in Sept. K On Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:51:44 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: On Saturday, September 13th, from 8:30 - 4pm, George Pacheco and I are going to present a Portuguese genealogy class in Rhode Island. It's going to be fast and furious! The morning session will be using American sources to find your freguesia. I will do a real scaled down DNA lecture and software review too (or that's my plan right now). After lunch, George will do the Portuguese records, and what to look for and then we will be off to the lab for the hands-on session where you can look at the CCA records and get assistance! It's similar to Salt Lake, but on a much smaller scale since we have only 6 ot 6.5 hours to present everything. $40 includes morning coffee and a light lunch. Because the announcement was designed as a graphic it'll get thrown into people's spam filters (or the Google Group will throw me in the spam filter for sending a graphic! It's not picky! I've found myself in there before!) So if you want the detailed information, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and I'll get the info to you. Thanks! Cheri Mello George Pacheco Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheryl Lawrence 508-951-2657 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Genealogy Workshop: Saturday, September 13, Rhode Island
Cheryl, I'll email you the info! Cheri On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Cheryl Lawrence cheryl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested! Where in RI? On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Kalani N mamoah...@gmail.com wrote: I love how all these Genealogical or DNA events are centered around the middle of the month, right before our tax deadline, on the 15th. The one in DC, the one in TX and now this in Sept. K On Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:51:44 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: On Saturday, September 13th, from 8:30 - 4pm, George Pacheco and I are going to present a Portuguese genealogy class in Rhode Island. It's going to be fast and furious! The morning session will be using American sources to find your freguesia. I will do a real scaled down DNA lecture and software review too (or that's my plan right now). After lunch, George will do the Portuguese records, and what to look for and then we will be off to the lab for the hands-on session where you can look at the CCA records and get assistance! It's similar to Salt Lake, but on a much smaller scale since we have only 6 ot 6.5 hours to present everything. $40 includes morning coffee and a light lunch. Because the announcement was designed as a graphic it'll get thrown into people's spam filters (or the Google Group will throw me in the spam filter for sending a graphic! It's not picky! I've found myself in there before!) So if you want the detailed information, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and I'll get the info to you. Thanks! Cheri Mello George Pacheco Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheryl Lawrence 508-951-2657 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA a Sampling of Crypto-Jewish descendents in North East Portugal district of Braganca
Hi Everyone, I found this to be interesting and thought I would share it. http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/ejhg2014140a.html Antonio -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] AUSENTE meaning
LOLOLOL!!! You guys are funny!!! I like the ideia of the milky cows waiting in deep pain, up in the foggy Azorean ills, for the “camponês” to hurry up… :) AUSENTE means (at the time) that the ausente was gone far away. The word was used in the sense of being immigrated, gone to Brasil perhaps at this particular time, or off to another Island, or at the army… If a father does not agree with a marriage it simply will not took place. Off to work?! Na. That is why most of the marriages took place early in the morning so people could go to work! Plus it was an honor seeing a daughter being married. It meant that she would be taken care by a man. For the father of the girl it meant that his daughter was not going to starve, be bad spoken. In the end the act of marriage was a very “meaning” action. To be “ausente” of a marriage had always a deep motif! Like it or not, the father was the top of the pyramid. He was the one who gives meaning either by his presence or his absence! Hope it helps :) Eliseu Pacheco da Silva “Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AUSENTE meaning
Thank you for your explanation. It helps to understand the culture better. Marilyn On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com wrote: LOLOLOL!!! You guys are funny!!! I like the ideia of the milky cows waiting in deep pain, up in the foggy Azorean ills, for the “camponês” to hurry up… J AUSENTE means (at the time) that the ausente was gone far away. The word was used in the sense of being immigrated, gone to Brasil perhaps at this particular time, or off to another Island, or at the army… If a father does not agree with a marriage it simply will not took place. Off to work?! Na. That is why most of the marriages took place early in the morning so people could go to work! Plus it was an honor seeing a daughter being married. It meant that she would be taken care by a man. For the father of the girl it meant that his daughter was not going to starve, be bad spoken. In the end the act of marriage was a very “meaning” action. To be “ausente” of a marriage had always a deep motif! Like it or not, the father was the top of the pyramid. He was the one who gives meaning either by his presence or his absence! Hope it helps J *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” * Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AUSENTE meaning
After he picked himself up from the floor, laughing and saying, Those crazy Americans! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA a Sampling of Crypto-Jewish descendents in North East Portugal district of Braganca
Hi Antonio,Nice find.This is also why I think it's almost just as important to do mt-DNA testing as Y-DNA testing.In fact, I have come to think the most important testing is Y-DNA, then Family Finder, then mt-DNA and the only reason Family Finder is second is that it gives you the MyOrigins look at all your ancestry. But to learn the most we need many, many, many more people to test both Y and mtDNA.I just convinced an old friend of mine to get it done. Someone we both are related to with Pico ancestry.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA a Sampling of Crypto-Jewish descendents in North East Portugal district of Braganca From: A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com Date: Sat, August 02, 2014 4:20 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Everyone,I found this to be interesting and thought I would share it.http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/ejhg2014140a.htmlAntonio -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AUSENTE meaning
Eliseu, Thank you for the definition of ausente. I was told it meant absent. For your description am I to understand that it could be unavoidably absent (like a soldier stationed away from the village or an immigrant in another country who could not come home), but it can also mean a deliberate action from a father who does not approve of the wedding? On Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:37:15 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: LOLOLOL!!! You guys are funny!!! I like the ideia of the milky cows waiting in deep pain, up in the foggy Azorean ills, for the “camponês” to hurry up… J AUSENTE means (at the time) that the ausente was gone far away. The word was used in the sense of being immigrated, gone to Brasil perhaps at this particular time, or off to another Island, or at the army… If a father does not agree with a marriage it simply will not took place. Off to work?! Na. That is why most of the marriages took place early in the morning so people could go to work! Plus it was an honor seeing a daughter being married. It meant that she would be taken care by a man. For the father of the girl it meant that his daughter was not going to starve, be bad spoken. In the end the act of marriage was a very “meaning” action. To be “ausente” of a marriage had always a deep motif! Like it or not, the father was the top of the pyramid. He was the one who gives meaning either by his presence or his absence! Hope it helps J *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” * Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
