Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Is, Rita Margarida da Silva born 1865

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Marilyn,
The paternal grandparent is Maria Naciamento, single and the maternal
grandparent is Roza Victorina, also single. Godparents: Manuel de Oliveira
Brazil and his wife Rita Silveira.

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On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
>
> # 1 top right of page. I am looking for someone to verify the information
> I think I am reading.
>
> Rita legitimate daughter of Manuel Joaquim da Silveira and Margarida Roza
> paternal - Maria de _ single
> maternial - Roza Victorina __  __
>
> I am thinking the above Rita is the mother of Rosa #14 on the following
> link. Would someone please look at these records and give me your opinion.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P108.html
>
> Thank you for your time
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[Paul]

Júlio,

Do you happen to have the link to Manuel Pereira da Braga's [33293] baptism 
record?

Paul G.

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>
> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, e 
> faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>
> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
> Faial Da Terra. 
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
> Faial Da Terra. 
>
>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], filha 
> de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], a 5 
> Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu a 9 
> Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 nasceu 
> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>10 Miii. *Manuel BRAGA [19842]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1708 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P66.html
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Cheri Mello]

Eric S,

In the obituary it says that he belonged to a Portuguese organization.
You'll need to search those records.

You will have to do all searches on him as Alexander (Alexandre) da Souza,
just Souza, Souza Borba, S. Borba or just Borba. Don't assign anything to
the names. He could have tacked on his grandma's maiden name of Borba for
all you know.

His wife's name would have been Maria Caetano Mancebo.

Here's a bunch of other resources to search to find that freguesia
(village) on Sao Jorge: goo.gl/BhM8Fs

Good luck!
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Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Obit translation help please.

[Sandra Perez]

27 Jul 1598 Breatis Pires mulher de Manoel Luis--2nd. from bottom on right.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1577-1666_item1/P14.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Eric Souza]

WOW! This is amazing information! Can you send me the link where you found 
this? This is the first real-looking lead I've had in a long time!! Thank 
you!

- Eric

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 12:00:08 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
>
> Eric
>
> Based on my experience I would say The combination de Sousa Borba is more 
> common in Calheta followed by Topo.
> Since you researched Calheta I went to Topo records and found one 
> Alexandre, born in August 1882. He was son of Manuel Jose da Cunha, 
> shoemaker and Rosa Delfina, seamstress. Paternal grandson of Antonia de Sao 
> Jose and maternal grandson of Antonio de Sousa de Borba and Ana Delfina. 
> The godfather was a Alexandre de Sousa de Borba (most likely a maternal 
> oncle/cousin)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Eric Souza  > wrote:
>
> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my 
> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
>
> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly 
> late 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the 
> year), and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6, 
> 1907, and they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on 
> March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather 
> never knew any other details about his father. Other documents show he may 
> also have been known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is 
> it accurate that the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the 
> father's paternal surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
>
> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other 
> relatives. I looked through the parish baptism records here on the 
> CulturaAcores site 
> .
>  
> Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked like they could be him.
>
> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in 
> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall 
> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Souza
> ericchar...@gmail.com 
> Skype: ericcsouza
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MyHeritage

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks, E, I will try and change the settings!! Glad to know that it is
available.

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:35 AM, EResendes  wrote:

> Just to clarify.  I use MyHeritage and you can change your preference to
> view your tree however you like.  You can choose 4 options:
>
> Married Name (Maiden Name)
> Maiden Name (Married Name)
> Married Name
> Maiden Name
>
> This is  unders Settings then choose Genealogy at the top.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 3:42:07 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website lists
>> their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy to
>> enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage,
>> PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search
>> parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access except
>> Ancestry). I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage. Now, it's
>> okay *except* that they list the females by their married name with the
>> maiden name in parenthesis.  This is bad for the Azores because most, as we
>> know, do use a married name! This is okay in the US but not okay with our
>> Portuguese names nor my Italian side! I've emailed them but I don't believe
>> that it will make any difference, just wanted you to know this quirk in
>> case you are planning on entering some of your names into these 'other'
>> genealogy sites!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

['Marcio' via Azores Genealogy]

Here is the link to the page. Beginning of this birth is in previous page 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889_item1/P92.html
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Eric Souza  wrote:
> 
> WOW! This is amazing information! Can you send me the link where you found 
> this? This is the first real-looking lead I've had in a long time!! Thank you!
> 
> - Eric
> 
>> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 12:00:08 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
>> Eric
>> 
>> Based on my experience I would say The combination de Sousa Borba is more 
>> common in Calheta followed by Topo.
>> Since you researched Calheta I went to Topo records and found one Alexandre, 
>> born in August 1882. He was son of Manuel Jose da Cunha, shoemaker and Rosa 
>> Delfina, seamstress. Paternal grandson of Antonia de Sao Jose and maternal 
>> grandson of Antonio de Sousa de Borba and Ana Delfina. The godfather was a 
>> Alexandre de Sousa de Borba (most likely a maternal oncle/cousin)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Eric Souza  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my 
>>> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
>>> 
>>> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly 
>>> late 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the 
>>> year), and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6, 
>>> 1907, and they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on 
>>> March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather 
>>> never knew any other details about his father. Other documents show he may 
>>> also have been known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is 
>>> it accurate that the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the 
>>> father's paternal surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
>>> 
>>> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other 
>>> relatives. I looked through the parish baptism records here on the 
>>> CulturaAcores site. Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked 
>>> like they could be him.
>>> 
>>> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in 
>>> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall 
>>> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric Souza
>>> ericchar...@gmail.com
>>> Skype: ericcsouza
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MyHeritage

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

OK, I went in and changed the setting to show maiden name and now it's
attaching the father's surname to each woman that doesn't have a surname
listed! I don't really know what else to do. As an example, my Isabel
Constantina Bettencourt is now being listed by her father's last name of
Lemos.

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:35 AM, EResendes  wrote:

> Just to clarify.  I use MyHeritage and you can change your preference to
> view your tree however you like.  You can choose 4 options:
>
> Married Name (Maiden Name)
> Maiden Name (Married Name)
> Married Name
> Maiden Name
>
> This is  unders Settings then choose Genealogy at the top.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 3:42:07 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website lists
>> their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy to
>> enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage,
>> PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search
>> parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access except
>> Ancestry). I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage. Now, it's
>> okay *except* that they list the females by their married name with the
>> maiden name in parenthesis.  This is bad for the Azores because most, as we
>> know, do use a married name! This is okay in the US but not okay with our
>> Portuguese names nor my Italian side! I've emailed them but I don't believe
>> that it will make any difference, just wanted you to know this quirk in
>> case you are planning on entering some of your names into these 'other'
>> genealogy sites!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

[bsei2816]

Libania?

Bill Seidler 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge baptism records for Rita and Rosa

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Marilyn, they could possibly be the same *but *the baptism of Rita clearly
is Manuel Joaquim Silveira not Silva. I would question the second baptism
if it looked like an abbreviation of Silveira but it is clearly Silva. You
would need to trace all of Manuel Joaquinuelm's children and see if there
was a change in the surname at some point. I wouldn't assume it is the same
couple unless I had traced Rita's parents children forward and see what is
listed on their marriages. I wouldn't worry about Mom adding the third name
but it may be that there are two couples that had children at the same time
in the village and Manuel changed his name to Silva and Mom added another
name to make sure there was separation between the two couples.
My three Manuel Souzas in Norte Grande did change their name, one kept
Manuel Souza, one added Lemos and the third added another surname to Souza
to show the difference. I've see them change the surname as my Francisco
Jose Souza changed to Francisco Jose Enes so it is possible!


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On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
>
> Rita record #1 I am trying to decide if she is the mother of Rosa #14 in
> the following link
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P108.html
>
> The only thing I can go by are the parents of Rita in both records
>
> father in #1 - Manuel Joaquim da Silveria and Margarida Rosa
> grandparents in #14 - Manuel Joaquim da Silva and Margarida Rosa Victorina
>
> I can see the variation in Manuel surname and the addition of Victorina to
> Margarida's name.
>
> I need someone else to give me their opinion. Is Rita the same person in
> both records?
>
> Thank you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Eric Souza]

Wow, thank you for such a prompt and helpful reply! I'll look into those 
resources.

- Eric

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 11:19:24 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Eric S,
>
> In the obituary it says that he belonged to a Portuguese organization. 
> You'll need to search those records. 
>
> You will have to do all searches on him as Alexander (Alexandre) da Souza, 
> just Souza, Souza Borba, S. Borba or just Borba. Don't assign anything to 
> the names. He could have tacked on his grandma's maiden name of Borba for 
> all you know. 
>
> His wife's name would have been Maria Caetano Mancebo.
>
> Here's a bunch of other resources to search to find that freguesia 
> (village) on Sao Jorge: goo.gl/BhM8Fs
>
> Good luck!
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>

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