Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira (1747? -1821)

[Cheri Mello]

The marriage of Manoel Marques and Barbara Goularte is top right:
http://goo.gl/dUYQOt

It looks like in the body they wrote the groom as Manoel Marques P^a and
the bride as Barbara Goularte dOlivr^a.

I'm going to let you try it first by yourself.

You need to come to Salt Lake with us to learn how to read these better.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira (1747? -1821)

[Eric Souza]

Unfortunately no luck so far ... I looked through all of the Topo marriage 
records, and couldn't find it ... many of them were in bad shape, so it's 
entirely possible that it's there, but just not legible.

While looking through other records, though, I did find something that I 
would love all of your experienced eyes (bottom left of this one) ...
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1815-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1815-1828_item1/P140.html

It shows this is the birth record of Manoel, a grandson (paternally) of 
Manoel Marquez Pereira and Barbora Goularte ... but I couldn't make out the 
names of the parents ... can someone help there?

Thanks!
- Eric



On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 12:14:36 PM UTC-7, Eric Souza wrote:
>
> OK, good tip, thank you!
>
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 11:56:22 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Manuel Marques Pereira died 26 June 1821 aged 74 more or less.
>>
>> Don't go looking for Manoel's baptism yet. Go find his marriage to 
>> Barbara Goularte. That will give his parents' names and then you will be 
>> sure you have the right Manoel.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

A good hint is the CCA url to the page Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel


Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record

The best that I can figure out is:

19 February 1635,  Sao Pedro marriages (I can't tell which island.) Andre 
Gonsalves (Belchoir Gonsalves X Maria Alvares) SPOUSE Maria da Benavides 
(Mathias de _  X  Francisca Nobre??) TESTIMONY George Dias de Oliveira 
Pedro Afonso de _ Dionisio Borges

Shirley in CA

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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:20 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P37.html

Does anybody can tell me parents names, on this marriage record? It's the 
last one record, on the right side.

Thanks in advance!

Ubirajara Jales de Lira


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira (1747? -1821)

[Eric Souza]

OK, good tip, thank you!

On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 11:56:22 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Yes, Manuel Marques Pereira died 26 June 1821 aged 74 more or less.
>
> Don't go looking for Manoel's baptism yet. Go find his marriage to Barbara 
> Goularte. That will give his parents' names and then you will be sure you 
> have the right Manoel.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sharing information about about the living (including DNA)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

This article (blog) by Judy Russell, The Legal Genealogist (she's a retired
lawyer and a genealogist) discusses what should be shared on the Internet
and what you should blur or scribble out.
http://goo.gl/VwMfNB
Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira (1747? -1821)

[Eric Souza]

I was combing through the obits and found one for a 5th great-hgrandfather, 
Manoel Marquez Pereira ...
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-O-1770-1826/SJR-CH-TOPO-O-1770-1826_item1/P290.html

If I am reading this correctly, I think it says he died 26 Jun 1821 ... if 
he was 74 at death (I think?), that would mean he was born in 1747ish ...

Since I don't have the records for who his parents were, I looked up the 
birth records for 1746 forward, and found one from (again, I think) 1 Jan 
1748 (top right) ... wondering if someone could take a look and let me know 
if they think these match up? And can you help me identify the parents and 
if it says anything else? It looks like the mother would be Barbara Pereira,
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1742-1762/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1742-1762_item1/P94.html

Thank you!!

- Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira (1747? -1821)

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, Manuel Marques Pereira died 26 June 1821 aged 74 more or less.

Don't go looking for Manoel's baptism yet. Go find his marriage to Barbara
Goularte. That will give his parents' names and then you will be sure you
have the right Manoel.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record

[Shirley Allegre]

The best that I can figure out is:

19 February 1635,  Sao Pedro marriages (I can't tell which island.)
Andre Gonsalves
(Belchoir Gonsalves X Maria Alvares)
SPOUSE
Maria da Benavides
(Mathias de _  X  Francisca Nobre??)
TESTIMONY
George Dias de Oliveira
Pedro Afonso de _
Dionisio Borges

Shirley in CA

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From: "Ubirajara Jales de Lira" 

To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:20 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P37.html

Does anybody can tell me parents names, on this marriage record? It's the 
last one record, on the right side.


Thanks in advance!

Ubirajara Jales de Lira

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