Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

In a nut shell it means that Manuel's mother, Maria Quiteria, committed 
adultery and that Manuel is the product of the affair. Her husband had been 
absent for too long to be the child's biological father.
John Miranda Raposo
 

On Saturday, October 1, 2016 3:12 PM, Paul  wrote:
 

 While looking for baptism records for another relative I stumbled upon this 
record for Manuel, filho adulterino do Maria Quiteria [my 3rd great aunt].
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
 (lower right)
according to Google translate, after her name it says married, (a word I am 
unable to figure out) absent husband. What do the mean? Did he just up and 
leave, if so WHEN? Possibly did not return after his mandatory military 
service? I have not found an obito for the absent husband (Marianno de Mello).

Maria is the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents Manuel Jacintho Duarte & 
Maria Quiteria de Jesus. In Mae de Deus Maria married Marianno de Mello in 1867.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
 (lower left/top right)
Marianno and Maria had a daughter, Maria born in 1868 but died six days later. 
Another daughter was born in 1869 also named Maria. I am still searching for 
other children from this marriage, so far nothing through 1874.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

As I read it the mother of the child Manuel is married and her husband is not 
the father. Her husband is absent (he could be a whaler or working abroad).

Rick 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 4:23 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae 
de Deus, Sao Miguel

 

Hi Paul,

Manuel seems to be the child of an adulterous relationship since I cannot see 
any mention of his father and this grandparents are incognito. I was once given 
the tip that in some instances the father ends up being name a godparent in 
order to have some spiritual responsibility for the child so maybe there is a 
hint there. 

 

I had a great uncle with an pai incognito at baptism whose ligitamacy was 
recognized two years later when my great grandparents finally got married --- 
one week before the birth of their second son! I guess these types of 
situations have been around for centuries. Makes for interesting research... ;)

 

Joanne Grota Mercier 

On October 1, 2016 at 3:04:02 PM, Paul (pagome...@comcast.net) wrote:

While looking for baptism records for another relative I stumbled upon this 
record for Manuel, filho adulterino do Maria Quiteria [my 3rd great aunt].

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
 (lower right) 

 

according to Google translate, after her name it says married, (a word I am 
unable to figure out) absent husband. What do the mean? Did he just up and 
leave, if so WHEN? Possibly did not return after his mandatory military 
service? I have not found an obito for the absent husband (Marianno de Mello).

 

Maria is the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents Manuel Jacintho Duarte & 
Maria Quiteria de Jesus. In Mae de Deus Maria married Marianno de Mello in 1867.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
 (lower left/top right)

 

Marianno and Maria had a daughter, Maria born in 1868 but died six days later. 
Another daughter was born in 1869 also named Maria. I am still searching for 
other children from this marriage, so far nothing through 1874.

 

 

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

I think it means the mom left the marriage. Let's see what a native speaker
says. Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

[Joanne Mercier]

Hi Paul,
Manuel seems to be the child of an adulterous relationship since I cannot
see any mention of his father and this grandparents are incognito. I was
once given the tip that in some instances the father ends up being name a
godparent in order to have some spiritual responsibility for the child so
maybe there is a hint there.

I had a great uncle with an pai incognito at baptism whose ligitamacy was
recognized two years later when my great grandparents finally got married
--- one week before the birth of their second son! I guess these types of
situations have been around for centuries. Makes for interesting
research... ;)

Joanne Grota Mercier

On October 1, 2016 at 3:04:02 PM, Paul (pagome...@comcast.net) wrote:

> While looking for baptism records for another relative I stumbled upon
> this record for Manuel, filho adulterino do Maria Quiteria [my 3rd great
> aunt].
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
> (lower right)
>
> according to Google translate, after her name it says married, (a word I
> am unable to figure out) absent husband. What do the mean? Did he just up
> and leave, if so WHEN? Possibly did not return after his mandatory military
> service? I have not found an obito for the absent husband (Marianno de
> Mello).
>
> Maria is the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents Manuel Jacintho Duarte
> & Maria Quiteria de Jesus. In Mae de Deus Maria married Marianno de Mello
> in 1867.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
> (lower left/top right)
>
> Marianno and Maria had a daughter, Maria born in 1868 but died six days
> later. Another daughter was born in 1869 also named Maria. I am still
> searching for other children from this marriage, so far nothing through
> 1874.
>
>
> Paul G.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

[Paul]

While looking for baptism records for another relative I stumbled upon this 
record for Manuel, filho adulterino do Maria Quiteria [my 3rd great aunt].

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
 
(lower right)

according to Google translate, after her name it says married, (a word I am 
unable to figure out) absent husband. What do the mean? Did he just up and 
leave, if so WHEN? Possibly did not return after his mandatory military 
service? I have not found an obito for the absent husband (Marianno de 
Mello).

Maria is the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents Manuel Jacintho Duarte & 
Maria Quiteria de Jesus. In Mae de Deus Maria married Marianno de Mello in 
1867.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
 
(lower left/top right)

Marianno and Maria had a daughter, Maria born in 1868 but died six days 
later. Another daughter was born in 1869 also named Maria. I am still 
searching for other children from this marriage, so far nothing through 
1874.


Paul G.

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