Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Dias or Manuel De Borba

[Cheri Mello]

The parents aren't married. So it's not the typical format.
Manuel (the baby) son of Manuel de Borba, single (I think that's a messed
up "single), and that he (the dad) is the son of Joao de Borba and of his
wife Vicencia da Assuncao, and son (the baby is the son) something of
Mariana Ignacia, single, and that she (Marianna) is the daughter of Manuel
Dias Vieira (dec'd) and of his wife Maria Antonia. I think it says that
they are waiting for the dispensation for marriage because Manuel and
Marianna are 1st cousins. Baby was born 29 Novemberand the next page is
missing. It jumps page numbers.

You might be able to hire Joao Ventura the archivist to retrieve the record
for you. I don't know how long his wait list is right now. You'd have to
contact him and ask. The rest of the records are 1778 as you noticed.
Cheri

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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Louie Avila 
wrote:

> I sure could use some help with converting a baptism to english.
>
> Link:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> PV-FONTINHAS-B-1770-1803/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-B-1770-1803_item1/P57.html
>
> Bottom right side:
>
> Manuel son of Manuel De Borba, "his job?", and the son of Joao De Borba
> and his wife Vincencia da Assuncao,
> and also the son of "dont know what this word is" Marianna Ignacia,
> single, daughter of Manuel Dias Vieira (deseased)
> and his wife Maria Antonia.
>
> Not sure what is written after that ... I see from the Terceira marriage
> index that "Manuel and Marianna" were married in 1779.
>
> The date at the bottom is 29 of November (with no year). The baptism
> listed before and after are 1778.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Louie
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Dias or Manuel De Borba

[Louie Avila]

I sure could use some help with converting a baptism to english.

Link:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-B-1770-1803/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-B-1770-1803_item1/P57.html

Bottom right side:

Manuel son of Manuel De Borba, "his job?", and the son of Joao De Borba and 
his wife Vincencia da Assuncao,
and also the son of "dont know what this word is" Marianna Ignacia, single, 
daughter of Manuel Dias Vieira (deseased)
and his wife Maria Antonia.

Not sure what is written after that ... I see from the Terceira marriage 
index that "Manuel and Marianna" were married in 1779.

The date at the bottom is 29 of November (with no year). The baptism listed 
before and after are 1778.

Thanks in advance,
Louie

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Father's Name (Santo Espirito, Santa Maria)

[George Pacheco]

 Manoel Frz ( Fernandes) Lordello e de Ana de Moira (Moura)

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:46 AM, George Sousa 
wrote:

> Thank you JR and thank you Louie... I will take your advice.
>
> George
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:29 AM, JR  wrote:
>
>> It's Manoel Fr'z (Fernandes) Lordello
>>
>> JR
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 9:41:20 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>>
>>> Second Record on the right...
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720_i
>>> tem1/P45.html
>>>
>>> Can anyone make out the father's full name?
>>>
>>> I see "Manoel filho de Manoel ? Lordello e de Ana de Moira..."
>>>
>>> Could it be "Manoel Fernandes Lordello" or is it "Manoel Figueiredo
>>> Lordello"... or something else?
>>>
>>> As always... thank you for your help.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> A bit of background for those that are interested.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the baptismal record of Manoel Moura Curvello son of
>>> Manoel Fernandes and Ana Moura, The obit record of Manoel Moura Curvello (
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP
>>> -SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810_
>>> item1/P4.html) states he died on June 18, 1793 at the age of 77 (more
>>> or less). That make his date of birth around 1716 (consistent with the
>>> above record).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Father's Name (Santo Espirito, Santa Maria)

[George Sousa]

Thank you JR and thank you Louie... I will take your advice.

George

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:29 AM, JR  wrote:

> It's Manoel Fr'z (Fernandes) Lordello
>
> JR
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 9:41:20 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>
>> Second Record on the right...
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720_item1/P45.html
>>
>> Can anyone make out the father's full name?
>>
>> I see "Manoel filho de Manoel ? Lordello e de Ana de Moira..."
>>
>> Could it be "Manoel Fernandes Lordello" or is it "Manoel Figueiredo
>> Lordello"... or something else?
>>
>> As always... thank you for your help.
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> A bit of background for those that are interested.
>>
>> I'm looking for the baptismal record of Manoel Moura Curvello son of
>> Manoel Fernandes and Ana Moura, The obit record of Manoel Moura Curvello (
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP
>> -SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810_item1/P4.html)
>> states he died on June 18, 1793 at the age of 77 (more or less). That make
>> his date of birth around 1716 (consistent with the above record).
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Father's Name (Santo Espirito, Santa Maria)

[Ângela Loura]

According to Borges Nunes book, it looks like the abbreviation for
Fernandez/s.

2017-01-26 6:29 GMT+00:00 JR :

> It's Manoel Fr'z (Fernandes) Lordello
>
> JR
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 9:41:20 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>
>> Second Record on the right...
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720_item1/P45.html
>>
>> Can anyone make out the father's full name?
>>
>> I see "Manoel filho de Manoel ? Lordello e de Ana de Moira..."
>>
>> Could it be "Manoel Fernandes Lordello" or is it "Manoel Figueiredo
>> Lordello"... or something else?
>>
>> As always... thank you for your help.
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> A bit of background for those that are interested.
>>
>> I'm looking for the baptismal record of Manoel Moura Curvello son of
>> Manoel Fernandes and Ana Moura, The obit record of Manoel Moura Curvello (
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP
>> -SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810_item1/P4.html)
>> states he died on June 18, 1793 at the age of 77 (more or less). That make
>> his date of birth around 1716 (consistent with the above record).
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[George Pacheco]

1811 onze o

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> No, unless I got it wrong. Here’s the marriage entry —>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836_item1/P105.html
>
>
>
> On January 24, 2017 at 8:43:53 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci (rcap...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Did they marry in 1809?? If so, that is probably the date the "Bans" were
> read, usually about 3 weeks before the actual marriage. The word before the
> dad's name could be a title but I can't seem to read it! Sorry
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Joanne Mercier 
> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>>
>> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
>> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
>> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
>> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
>> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
>> before?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
>> Joanne Grota Mercier
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Newspapers.com Publisher Extra Subscription

[Kathy Cardoza]

Does anyone have a subscription to the Publishers Extra Subscription service 
for Newspapers.com ? I have the Basic Subscription and 
was wondering if you thought the Extra was worth the money?

Thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help maternal grandfather's name

[Joseph Mendonca]

Thank you JR.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 2:29 AM, JR  wrote:

> Ok I think I figured out the error I made and confirmed my suspicions. The
> name Jose* Arnauldo* do Amaral, an unusual name to be sure. Sometimes
> written as Arnaudo, Arnaldo. I have some of this line. Will contact you
> privately.
>
> JR
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 10:50:17 PM UTC-5, jemendonca642 wrote:
>>
>> Thank you JR. There is much to consider here.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:58 PM, JR  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Arnaud is from German aristocracy. However, this particular Arnaud,
>>> as you can see, is a first name not a surname. I have come across it a few
>>> times in Povoacao. I don't think there is any connection with the Arnaud's
>>> that Margaret referenced. But you never know until you keep digging.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 2:59:11 PM UTC-5, jemendonca642 wrote:

 Thanks Margaret and Richard. I appreciate everyone's help.

 On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Yes, it's in the Genealogias de S. Miguel and Santa Maria by Rodrigo
> Rodrigues. Quite a few people in Ponta Delgada and S. Roque.
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Margaret, as always.  Just one other question if you don't
>> mind. I haven't run across this name before (Arnaud).  Is there any info
>> that you can tell me about it?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Margaret Vicente <
>> margare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joseph,
>>>
>>> Yes, you got it right.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Joseph Mendonca <
>>> jemend...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Top-left, 7th line.

 I'm unsure of the middle name of the maternal grandfather.  It
 looks like *Jose* *Arnaud ? do Amaral*. I appreciate any help,
 thanks.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-
 MAEDEDEUS-B-1886-1890/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1886-1890_item1/P94.html

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