[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Format, Santa Maria late 1700's

2017-02-20 Thread linda
Hi Sam,

If I read it correctly, there's no mention of a consanguinity 
dispensation.  It says the banns were read in the four villages of the 
Island-- then a phrase I can't quite get-- and that no impediments were 
found.  Let me know if you'd like a summary translation:

Em os dois dias do mes de Julho de mil e Sete centos noventa e hum annos
Sendo de minham nesta Parochial do Apos?ulo Sam Pedro Lugar
de Flor da Roza alta da Villa do Porto desta Ilho de Santa Maria em
prezenca de mim Antonio Francisco CarValho Cura da dita Paro
chial, e das testemunhos abaicho asignados o Reverendo joam Pe
dro Coelho cura da Matrix de Nossa Senhora da Asumpcam mora
dor na dita Villa e Manoel Joze da Camara homen cazado mo
rador em em [sic] Flor da Roza baicha termo da dita matrix, e de outros
pesoas que prezentes estavam, feitas a denumpciomes na forma
do direito,  nas coatro freguezias desta Ilha, e hum ?urato a huma
de Mas  [afraganeo??] Sem se descobrir impedimento algum Sendo
Examinados da Doctrina Christam, e outro sem constando do [constou?]
timento Judicial de quem o de???dar com e tudo Se mostra
pelho mandado do Reverendo Ouvidor [Ex.o??] O Lecenciado Fran
Cisco da Camara Souza Carreiro que feCa no archivo desta dita Parochi
al Se Cazam [R?evemente?] com palavras de prezente In Facei Ecle
Zia na forma do Sagrada Concilio Tredentino Ignacio Joze Coelho filho...


hope that helps,

:)

Linda

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>
> This one has me totally flummoxed!  I’ve got the names of the ancestors 
> involved but; the format and specific words in this document are new to me 
> and I’ve not been able to figure much of it out. Does anyone have the 
> format of this time period written out?   I think the couple is related 
> but; cannot decipher to what degree.  Any help much appreciated. It is the 
> marriage of Ignacio Jose Coelho and Dona Eugenia Caetana de Rego.  His 
> parents are Joam de Andrade Coelho, now dead and Luisa Francisca “de 
> Andrade” and the bride’s parents are Ignacio de Sousa Tavares and Semeanna 
> Francisca da Camera (finally found her full name),  married on the 2nd of 
> July 1791.  It is the one on the right.
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1758-1798/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1758-1798_item1/P79.html
>
>  
>
> As always, any help much appreciated.
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] New Format, Santa Maria late 1700's

2017-02-20 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy
This one has me totally flummoxed!  I’ve got the names of the ancestors 
involved but; the format and specific words in this document are new to me and 
I’ve not been able to figure much of it out. Does anyone have the format of 
this time period written out?   I think the couple is related but; cannot 
decipher to what degree.  Any help much appreciated. It is the marriage of 
Ignacio Jose Coelho and Dona Eugenia Caetana de Rego.  His parents are Joam de 
Andrade Coelho, now dead and Luisa Francisca “de Andrade” and the bride’s 
parents are Ignacio de Sousa Tavares and Semeanna Francisca da Camera (finally 
found her full name),  married on the 2nd of July 1791.  It is the one on the 
right.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1758-1798/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1758-1798_item1/P79.html

As always, any help much appreciated.
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nos Portugueses

2017-02-20 Thread "E" Sharp
What I found interesting is if I put in a family name, it comes up with
that name and then I am not sure if I join (affordable) they will provide
the information without my having to search for it on the Tombo.pt. site.
Right

"E"

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Right now, I can figure out that the URL you provided functions the same
> as Tombo.pt/en.It's a portal or table of contents to the CCA. I was
> able to navigate it and wind up on an image from the CCA.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:25 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> It is http://nosportugueses.pt
>>
>> "E"
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> You didn't provide a URL. I tried www.nosportugueses.com and it was
>>> blocked by my antivirus as a PHISHING SITE!!! Do NOT go there! Update your
>>> virus software, malware, etc and scan your computer!!!
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:56 PM, "E" Sharp 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can anyone tell me what this website is about?  I think it has
 something to do with  Associacao Dos Amigos Da Torre Do Tombo,  I know
 Torre Do Tombo is the genealogy research library in Lisbon as I have been
 and done research there.  If I put in a family name it comes up at this Nos
 Portugueses site and I would like to know what information I might glean
 from it.  It looks like you have to join it but I am not sure what it is
 all about.

 Thank you.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nos Portugueses

2017-02-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Right now, I can figure out that the URL you provided functions the same as
Tombo.pt/en.It's a portal or table of contents to the CCA. I was able
to navigate it and wind up on an image from the CCA.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:25 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Cheri,
>
> It is http://nosportugueses.pt
>
> "E"
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> You didn't provide a URL. I tried www.nosportugueses.com and it was
>> blocked by my antivirus as a PHISHING SITE!!! Do NOT go there! Update your
>> virus software, malware, etc and scan your computer!!!
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:56 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me what this website is about?  I think it has something
>>> to do with  Associacao Dos Amigos Da Torre Do Tombo,  I know Torre Do Tombo
>>> is the genealogy research library in Lisbon as I have been and done
>>> research there.  If I put in a family name it comes up at this Nos
>>> Portugueses site and I would like to know what information I might glean
>>> from it.  It looks like you have to join it but I am not sure what it is
>>> all about.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nos Portugueses

2017-02-20 Thread "E" Sharp
Cheri,

It is http://nosportugueses.pt

"E"

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> You didn't provide a URL. I tried www.nosportugueses.com and it was
> blocked by my antivirus as a PHISHING SITE!!! Do NOT go there! Update your
> virus software, malware, etc and scan your computer!!!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:56 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me what this website is about?  I think it has something
>> to do with  Associacao Dos Amigos Da Torre Do Tombo,  I know Torre Do Tombo
>> is the genealogy research library in Lisbon as I have been and done
>> research there.  If I put in a family name it comes up at this Nos
>> Portugueses site and I would like to know what information I might glean
>> from it.  It looks like you have to join it but I am not sure what it is
>> all about.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nos Portugueses

2017-02-20 Thread Cheri Mello
You didn't provide a URL. I tried www.nosportugueses.com and it was blocked
by my antivirus as a PHISHING SITE!!! Do NOT go there! Update your virus
software, malware, etc and scan your computer!!!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:56 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Can anyone tell me what this website is about?  I think it has something
> to do with  Associacao Dos Amigos Da Torre Do Tombo,  I know Torre Do Tombo
> is the genealogy research library in Lisbon as I have been and done
> research there.  If I put in a family name it comes up at this Nos
> Portugueses site and I would like to know what information I might glean
> from it.  It looks like you have to join it but I am not sure what it is
> all about.
>
> Thank you.
>
> "E"
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Nos Portugueses

2017-02-20 Thread "E" Sharp
Can anyone tell me what this website is about?  I think it has something to
do with  Associacao Dos Amigos Da Torre Do Tombo,  I know Torre Do Tombo is
the genealogy research library in Lisbon as I have been and done research
there.  If I put in a family name it comes up at this Nos Portugueses site
and I would like to know what information I might glean from it.  It looks
like you have to join it but I am not sure what it is all about.

Thank you.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Duarte and Dutra

2017-02-20 Thread Cheri Mello
I only know of Dutra as a name from Josse van Huerter. He was Flemish, if
memory serves me. In my research, I've never seen a priest mistake my
Dutras for Duartes. Duarte is a separate, distinct name. That doesn't mean
that an immigrant didn't change it or a priest may have erred.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 7:15 AM,  wrote:

> Thank you Cheri. I finally got this one figured out.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 3:11:35 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> It depends. Can you provide the original source to Antonio Duarte and
>> Barbara Josefa and the link to the marriage of Antonio Dutra and Barbara
>> Josepha? Then I can clarify my "it depends" statement.
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Sme  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings everyone. I'm tracing the family lines for a cousin of mine.
>>> In one of the records I came across, the ancestor's father's surname was
>>> Antonio Duarte and the mother was Barbara Josefa.  When I was looking for
>>> the marriage I found an Antonio Dutra married to Barbara Josefa.
>>>
>>> Is this name interchangeable?  I have not come across any other Duarte
>>> married to a Barb. Josefa.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Suzanne
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the parish and island

2017-02-20 Thread linda
My pleasure. :)

best of luck with your research,

Linda



On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 7:26:53 AM UTC-8, climb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Yes, it is.  Those were the parts I could not understand and couldn't get 
> the translation to figure out :). Thank you ever so much.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:26:31 PM UTC-8, linda wrote:
>>
>> Hi Suzanne,
>>
>> If I read the record rightly, it says this:
>>
>> Antonio Francisco Duarte was baptised and ...[discharged of his lenten 
>> obligations]... at  the Parish Church of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, City 
>> of Horta
>> Anna Luiza, [is a] native of the Parish Matriz Church do Santissimo 
>> Salvador of the same City [Horta] where [she] the bride was baptised, 
>> additionally she was... [discharged of her lenten obligations]... in the 
>> above said Parish of S.a da Luz [Flamengos]
>>
>> hope that helps,
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-8, Sme wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this a parish on Faial?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html
>>>
>>> Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets 
>>> of parents.
>>>
>>> Thank you kindly.
>>> Suzanne
>>>
>>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Traveling to Azores in May looking into family of Jose Caton Alvares

2017-02-20 Thread nancy jean baptiste
There's a taxi driver on Pico who speaks good English and is also a 
genealogist. Jose Leo is his name.he's in Madalena and can be found usually 
on the square at the taxi spot.


Nancy Jean


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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:26:22 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Traveling to Azores in May looking into family 
of Jose Caton Alvares

Thank you Cheri.  I have no data on the village, all family members have 
passed, but we will try to find more when we get there.

Bob

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:49:53 PM UTC-8, Alvares wrote:
Born in 1866 , Pico and died in 1937.  He was married to Maria Ascencion Paul 
who was born in 1876.  I would like help on where to go on the Island searching 
information and a possible guide who knows about ancestry searches since we do 
not speak Portuguese.  Thanks in advance.  Bob

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Duarte and Dutra

2017-02-20 Thread climbatree2
Thank you Cheri. I finally got this one figured out.

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 3:11:35 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> It depends. Can you provide the original source to Antonio Duarte and 
> Barbara Josefa and the link to the marriage of Antonio Dutra and Barbara 
> Josepha? Then I can clarify my "it depends" statement.
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Sme  
> wrote:
>
>> Greetings everyone. I'm tracing the family lines for a cousin of mine. In 
>> one of the records I came across, the ancestor's father's surname was 
>> Antonio Duarte and the mother was Barbara Josefa.  When I was looking for 
>> the marriage I found an Antonio Dutra married to Barbara Josefa.
>>
>> Is this name interchangeable?  I have not come across any other Duarte 
>> married to a Barb. Josefa.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Suzanne
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the parish and island

2017-02-20 Thread climbatree2
Yes, it is.  Those were the parts I could not understand and couldn't get 
the translation to figure out :). Thank you ever so much.

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:26:31 PM UTC-8, linda wrote:
>
> Hi Suzanne,
>
> If I read the record rightly, it says this:
>
> Antonio Francisco Duarte was baptised and ...[discharged of his lenten 
> obligations]... at  the Parish Church of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, City 
> of Horta
> Anna Luiza, [is a] native of the Parish Matriz Church do Santissimo 
> Salvador of the same City [Horta] where [she] the bride was baptised, 
> additionally she was... [discharged of her lenten obligations]... in the 
> above said Parish of S.a da Luz [Flamengos]
>
> hope that helps,
>
> :)
>
> Linda
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-8, Sme wrote:
>>
>> Is this a parish on Faial?
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html
>>
>> Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets of 
>> parents.
>>
>> Thank you kindly.
>> Suzanne
>>
>

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