[AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Cheri Mello]

I called and emailed the church secretary at Mount Carmel in New Bedford 2
months ago. I requested a marriage and specified that I really needed the
information that said where the bride and groom were born. She never
fulfilled my request.

So is anyone going there who can ask Fr. Oliveira to look up the marriage
in the book and read it to you while you take notes? Email me and I'll
provide the particulars. I don't need 5 people all asking them the same
thing.

Thanks, Cheri
Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching Soares/Menezes on San Miguel Island in late 1800's

[Neil Teixeira]

If any of the Sao Miguel born children (Maria 12, Antonio 10, Maria 8, 
Maria 1) were eventually married in the Catholic Church in the USA? *The 
location-the village *and confirmation of their Baptism (s) should have 
been recorded in the (boiler plate) marriage record book by the Priest. 
Priest were to confirm by letter that the bride & groom had indeed-been 
baptisied. That's how I discovered my family's (long lost) village on Sao 
Miguel island. 

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 10:19:11 AM UTC-7, SNarducci07 wrote:
>
> I've just recently started researching my families genealogy. Most 
> lineages I can trace back pretty far, but my father's maternal line stops 
> at my 2nd great-grandparents who are from San Miguel Island, Azores, 
> Portugal. I have a decent amount of information but lack the know-how and 
> skills to really know what to do next. I would love to get the names of my 
> 3rd great-grandparents. My 2nd great-grandparents are Theresa Soares 
> Menezes (Soares is her married Surname I do believe), I've seen she signed 
> her name as Thereza J. Menezes as well, she is also known as Maria Theresa 
> Soares and was born January 1, 1883, on San Miguel Island, Azores, 
> Portugal. Her husband was Manuel Soares Menezes born about June 1875 on San 
> Miguel Island as well. They were married on that island at about 1897. They 
> had 4 kids born in San Miguel; Mary Theresa Soares, Antone Soares, 
> Constance Soares, and Minnie Soares (my great-grandmother). They then 
> immigrated to Honolulu on the S.S. Swanley and arrived on December 14th, 
> 1909. They had 2 more children in Hawaii; Evelyn and Ann Soares. They then 
> moved to California and had one more child John Soares. They continued 
> living in San Jose, Santa Clara County, California until they both passed 
> away. I only have the date of Theresa Soares death and not Manuel's. Is 
> there any way to find the names of either of their parents? I have 2 
> sources claiming the surnames Fernandez (Theresa's father) and Jesus 
> (Theresa's mother, though I know this is likely a religious name and not a 
> surname), I have no information for Manuel's parents.
> Thank you!
> -Staci Narducci
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Cheri Mello]

Oops, I copied the wrong link. Thanks for letting me know. Here's the
correct one. https://goo.gl/DUyNhT

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> Thanks Cheri, but the link is not working.  It just links me back to this
> google group.
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Here's a little more detail from Roberta Estes, on DNA Explained, about
>> the mitochondria change: https://goo.gl/Wfe5ST
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mary Bordi, Your Order History is in the left column under your name and
>>> address:
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Maybe you are H47 or something and they haven't discovered it yet.
 FTDNA will periodically update as the science evolves.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Mendonca <
 jemendonca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did a full mtDNA test and my haplogroup is a straight H and has not
> changed.
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mary Bordi 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
>> upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).
>>
>> At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago
>> to H-G16129A!
>>
>> I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he
>> is Portuguese!
>>
>> Mary
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Joseph Mendonca]

Thanks Cheri, but the link is not working.  It just links me back to this
google group.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Here's a little more detail from Roberta Estes, on DNA Explained, about
> the mitochondria change: https://goo.gl/Wfe5ST
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Mary Bordi, Your Order History is in the left column under your name and
>> address:
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe you are H47 or something and they haven't discovered it yet. FTDNA
>>> will periodically update as the science evolves.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Mendonca <
>>> jemendonca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I did a full mtDNA test and my haplogroup is a straight H and has not
 changed.

 On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mary Bordi 
 wrote:

> Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
> upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).
>
> At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago
> to H-G16129A!
>
> I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he
> is Portuguese!
>
> Mary
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

[bsei2816]

I inadvertently omitted some important information so I posted again with 
the changes in red.

Bill Seidler
 

> This is from the book of baptisms; the record you posted was from the book 
> of marriages (casamentos).  I will try to translate pertinent parts.
>
> Jose, born in Arrifes on 2 April 1855 and baptized on 29 April 1855
>
> Father: Joao d' Arruda native of Nossa Senhora das Neves, Relva
> Mother: Maria de Jesus native of Sao Jose in the city (Ponta Delgada)
>
> Paternal grandparents: Antonio d' Arruda and Barbara Jacintha
> Maternal grandparents: Antonio de Medeiros and Theresa de Jesus
>
> Godparents: Jose Lopes and his wife Maria de Jesus
>
> Witnesses: Manuel da Silva (sachristao = church caretaker?) and Joao 
> Jacintho Rapozo
>
> Good luck on your search.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

[bsei2816]

This is from the book of baptisms; the record you posted was from the book 
of marriages (casamentos).  I will try to translate pertinent parts.

Jose, born in Arrifes on 2 April 1855 and baptized on 29 April 1855

Father: Joao d' Arruda
Mother: Maria de Jesus

Paternal grandparents: Antonio d' Arruda and Barbara Jacintha
Maternal grandparents: Antonio de Medeiros and Theresa de Jesus

Godparents: Jose Lopes and his wife Maria de Jesus

Witnesses: Manuel da Silva (sachristao = church caretaker?) and Joao 
Jacintho Rapozo

Good luck on your search.

Bill Seidler

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 4:25:54 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:

> yes that is him. can you help me translate this record you sent. again 
> thank you for your help. 
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 4:03:47 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The record you posted was a marriage of a Jose d' Arruda in 1855.  This 
>> one (bottom right) is a baptism of a different Jose d' Arruda the same year 
>> in the same place.  It also seems to be the same Jose d' Arruda in the 1884 
>> marriage in your Mar 20 post that Margaret translated for you.  
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855_item1/P176.html*
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:
>>>
>>> thank you everyone. I do not think he is the right one. nothing seems to 
>>> match up other then the year he was born and his name. I will keep looking. 
>>> I thought I was looking for baptism. not marriage as I have that. 
>>> Julzz
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:03:45 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:

 This is the best that I can figure out:
  
 4 Feb 1855Item 20, page 18L
 Arrifes
 Jose de Arruda, age 21, native Nossa Senhora da Saude
 (Jose de Arruda X Anna Isabel)
 SPOUSE
 Eugenia Maria
 BAPT:  N.S. Luz, Fenais
 (Joao Furtado, deceased X Claudina Rosa)
 TESTIMONY
 Joao Ferreira, married
 Jose da Ponte, married
  
 Hopefully someone else can do better.
  
 Shirley in CA
  

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 *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 6:22 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

 oh my i am sorry the one on the left. looks like Jose de Arruda

 On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: 
>
> Which one?
> On Mar 24, 2017 4:22 PM, "'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy" <
> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860_item1/P20.html
>>
>> I am having a hard time reading this one. can anyone help me. thank 
>> you
>>
>> Julzz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arruda/Correia, Sao Miguel

[Julie Marsh]

Thank you. That might be for her to receive her visa/passport 

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:37 PM, Cheri Mello  
wrote:
 

 Had certificate issued. 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:35 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

I was responding to Mara about Victoria's baptism record. here it is below. I 
do know they immigrated around 1905 and noticed that on her record i see a date 
but can not make out the words before the date to know if that is what they are 
talking about. 
Left hand side of the page
http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- 
PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD- ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/ P112.html

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 4:30:09 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
I have no idea what record you are talking about or for who.

Margin notes state that a certificate was issued. They never say why. 
Otherwise, we'd have all of our tree problems solved.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

could you tell me if the date at the top of the notes (1905) is the one for 
there immigration to Rhode Island? Thank you

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 6:54:27 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
Hello Julzz,
Here's a summary:
The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is Gloria on 
the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.) 
Marriage Record N.o 27 Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884

Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa
The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao d'Arruda, 
natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva place, and of 
Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city of Ponta 
Delgada.The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic, 
legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this parish 
of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.
I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple you 
referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria"  The margin notes 
confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.
Record # 245 Victoria (left side)
http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- 
ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARR IFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112. html


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally found Jose 
and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should be and i am 
having problems reading their parents names as well as the date they married. I 
feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing, so i am struggling.
http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- 
ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARR IFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.htm l


Julzz

On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
Thanks so much for your help.
I am looking for any information on this family.
JulzzGeneration No. 11. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married 
ALEXANDRINA DE
JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and 
ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
Massachusetts.
ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.
Generation No. 22. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890 
in
Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arruda/Correia, Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Had certificate issued.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:35 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I was responding to Mara about Victoria's baptism record. here it is
> below. I do know they immigrated around 1905 and noticed that on her record
> i see a date but can not make out the words before the date to know if that
> is what they are talking about.
>
> Left hand side of the page
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 4:30:09 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> I have no idea what record you are talking about or for who.
>>
>> Margin notes state that a certificate was issued. They never say why.
>> Otherwise, we'd have all of our tree problems solved.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> could you tell me if the date at the top of the notes (1905) is the one
>>> for there immigration to Rhode Island? Thank you
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 6:54:27 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

 Hello Julzz,

 Here's a summary:

 The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is
 Gloria on the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.)

 Marriage Record N.o 27
 Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884

 Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa

 The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao
 d'Arruda, natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva
 place, and of Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city
 of Ponta Delgada.
 The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic,
 legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this
 parish of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.

 I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple
 you referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria"  The
 margin notes confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.

 Record # 245 Victoria (left side)

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
 ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html


 On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
 azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally
> found Jose and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should 
> be
> and i am having problems reading their parents names as well as the date
> they married. I feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing,
> so i am struggling.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
> ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.html
>
>
> Julzz
>
>
> On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net
> wrote:
>>
>> Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
>> my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
>> conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
>> This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
>> Thanks so much for your help.
>>
>>
>> I am looking for any information on this family.
>> Julzz
>>
>> Generation No. 1
>>
>> 1. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married ALEXANDRINA DE
>> JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.
>>
>> Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
>> 2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
>> Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
>> Massachusetts.
>> ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.
>>
>>
>> Generation No. 2
>>
>> 2. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890 in
>> Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
>> River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
>> 17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
>> FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
>> Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
>> December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arruda/Correia, Sao Miguel

['Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy]

I was responding to Mara about Victoria's baptism record. here it is below. 
I do know they immigrated around 1905 and noticed that on her record i see 
a date but can not make out the words before the date to know if that is 
what they are talking about. 

Left hand side of the page

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 4:30:09 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> I have no idea what record you are talking about or for who.
>
> Margin notes state that a certificate was issued. They never say why. 
> Otherwise, we'd have all of our tree problems solved.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> could you tell me if the date at the top of the notes (1905) is the one 
>> for there immigration to Rhode Island? Thank you
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 6:54:27 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Julzz,
>>>
>>> Here's a summary:
>>>
>>> The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is 
>>> Gloria on the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.) 
>>>
>>> Marriage Record N.o 27 
>>> Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884
>>>
>>> Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa
>>>
>>> The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao 
>>> d'Arruda, natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva 
>>> place, and of Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city 
>>> of Ponta Delgada.
>>> The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic, 
>>> legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this 
>>> parish of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.
>>>
>>> I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple 
>>> you referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria"  The 
>>> margin notes confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.
>>>
>>> Record # 245 Victoria (left side)
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally 
 found Jose and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should 
 be 
 and i am having problems reading their parents names as well as the date 
 they married. I feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing, 
 so i am struggling.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.html


 Julzz


 On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net 
 wrote:
>
> Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
> my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
> conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
> This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
> Thanks so much for your help.
>
>
> I am looking for any information on this family.
> Julzz
>
> Generation No. 1
>
> 1. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married ALEXANDRINA DE
> JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.
>
> Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
> 2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
> Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
> Massachusetts.
> ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.
>
>
> Generation No. 2
>
> 2. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890 in
> Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
> River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
> 17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
> FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
> Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
> December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arruda/Correia, Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

I have no idea what record you are talking about or for who.

Margin notes state that a certificate was issued. They never say why.
Otherwise, we'd have all of our tree problems solved.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> could you tell me if the date at the top of the notes (1905) is the one
> for there immigration to Rhode Island? Thank you
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 6:54:27 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Hello Julzz,
>>
>> Here's a summary:
>>
>> The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is
>> Gloria on the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.)
>>
>> Marriage Record N.o 27
>> Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884
>>
>> Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa
>>
>> The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao d'Arruda,
>> natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva place, and of
>> Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city of Ponta
>> Delgada.
>> The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic,
>> legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this
>> parish of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.
>>
>> I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple
>> you referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria"  The
>> margin notes confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.
>>
>> Record # 245 Victoria (left side)
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally found
>>> Jose and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should be and i
>>> am having problems reading their parents names as well as the date they
>>> married. I feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing, so i
>>> am struggling.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>> ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Julzz
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net
>>> wrote:

 Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
 my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
 conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
 This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
 Thanks so much for your help.


 I am looking for any information on this family.
 Julzz

 Generation No. 1

 1. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married ALEXANDRINA DE
 JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.

 Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
 2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
 Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
 Massachusetts.
 ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.


 Generation No. 2

 2. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890 in
 Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
 River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
 17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
 FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
 Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
 December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

['Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy]

yes that is him. can you help me translate this record you sent. again 
thank you for your help. 

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 4:03:47 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The record you posted was a marriage of a Jose d' Arruda in 1855.  This 
> one (bottom right) is a baptism of a different Jose d' Arruda the same year 
> in the same place.  It also seems to be the same Jose d' Arruda in the 1884 
> marriage in your Mar 20 post that Margaret translated for you.  
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855_item1/P176.html*
>  
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:
>>
>> thank you everyone. I do not think he is the right one. nothing seems to 
>> match up other then the year he was born and his name. I will keep looking. 
>> I thought I was looking for baptism. not marriage as I have that. 
>> Julzz
>>
>> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:03:45 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the best that I can figure out:
>>>  
>>> 4 Feb 1855Item 20, page 18L
>>> Arrifes
>>> Jose de Arruda, age 21, native Nossa Senhora da Saude
>>> (Jose de Arruda X Anna Isabel)
>>> SPOUSE
>>> Eugenia Maria
>>> BAPT:  N.S. Luz, Fenais
>>> (Joao Furtado, deceased X Claudina Rosa)
>>> TESTIMONY
>>> Joao Ferreira, married
>>> Jose da Ponte, married
>>>  
>>> Hopefully someone else can do better.
>>>  
>>> Shirley in CA
>>>  
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> *From:* 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy 
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 6:22 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.
>>>
>>> oh my i am sorry the one on the left. looks like Jose de Arruda
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: 

 Which one?
 On Mar 24, 2017 4:22 PM, "'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy" <
 azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860_item1/P20.html
>
> I am having a hard time reading this one. can anyone help me. thank you
>
> Julzz
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

['Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy]

yes it is thank you. I am not sure how i missed that. I thought his birth 
was part of the missing records. 

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 4:03:47 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The record you posted was a marriage of a Jose d' Arruda in 1855.  This 
> one (bottom right) is a baptism of a different Jose d' Arruda the same year 
> in the same place.  It also seems to be the same Jose d' Arruda in the 1884 
> marriage in your Mar 20 post that Margaret translated for you.  
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855_item1/P176.html*
>  
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:
>>
>> thank you everyone. I do not think he is the right one. nothing seems to 
>> match up other then the year he was born and his name. I will keep looking. 
>> I thought I was looking for baptism. not marriage as I have that. 
>> Julzz
>>
>> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:03:45 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the best that I can figure out:
>>>  
>>> 4 Feb 1855Item 20, page 18L
>>> Arrifes
>>> Jose de Arruda, age 21, native Nossa Senhora da Saude
>>> (Jose de Arruda X Anna Isabel)
>>> SPOUSE
>>> Eugenia Maria
>>> BAPT:  N.S. Luz, Fenais
>>> (Joao Furtado, deceased X Claudina Rosa)
>>> TESTIMONY
>>> Joao Ferreira, married
>>> Jose da Ponte, married
>>>  
>>> Hopefully someone else can do better.
>>>  
>>> Shirley in CA
>>>  
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> *From:* 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy 
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 6:22 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.
>>>
>>> oh my i am sorry the one on the left. looks like Jose de Arruda
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: 

 Which one?
 On Mar 24, 2017 4:22 PM, "'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy" <
 azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860_item1/P20.html
>
> I am having a hard time reading this one. can anyone help me. thank you
>
> Julzz
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arruda/Correia, Sao Miguel

['Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy]

could you tell me if the date at the top of the notes (1905) is the one for 
there immigration to Rhode Island? Thank you

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 6:54:27 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Hello Julzz,
>
> Here's a summary:
>
> The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is 
> Gloria on the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.) 
>
> Marriage Record N.o 27 
> Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884
>
> Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa
>
> The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao d'Arruda, 
> natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva place, and of 
> Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city of Ponta 
> Delgada.
> The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic, 
> legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this 
> parish of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.
>
> I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple 
> you referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria"  The 
> margin notes confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.
>
> Record # 245 Victoria (left side)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally found 
>> Jose and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should be and i 
>> am having problems reading their parents names as well as the date they 
>> married. I feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing, so i 
>> am struggling.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.html
>>
>>
>> Julzz
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
>>> my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
>>> conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
>>> This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
>>> Thanks so much for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am looking for any information on this family.
>>> Julzz
>>>
>>> Generation No. 1
>>>
>>> 1. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married ALEXANDRINA DE
>>> JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.
>>>
>>> Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
>>> 2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
>>> Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
>>> Massachusetts.
>>> ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Generation No. 2
>>>
>>> 2. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890 in
>>> Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
>>> River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
>>> 17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
>>> FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
>>> Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
>>> December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

[bsei2816]

 

The record you posted was a marriage of a Jose d' Arruda in 1855.  This one 
(bottom right) is a baptism of a different Jose d' Arruda the same year in 
the same place.  It also seems to be the same Jose d' Arruda in the 1884 
marriage in your Mar 20 post that Margaret translated for you.  

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855_item1/P176.html*
 



On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:
>
> thank you everyone. I do not think he is the right one. nothing seems to 
> match up other then the year he was born and his name. I will keep looking. 
> I thought I was looking for baptism. not marriage as I have that. 
> Julzz
>
> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:03:45 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>>
>> This is the best that I can figure out:
>>  
>> 4 Feb 1855Item 20, page 18L
>> Arrifes
>> Jose de Arruda, age 21, native Nossa Senhora da Saude
>> (Jose de Arruda X Anna Isabel)
>> SPOUSE
>> Eugenia Maria
>> BAPT:  N.S. Luz, Fenais
>> (Joao Furtado, deceased X Claudina Rosa)
>> TESTIMONY
>> Joao Ferreira, married
>> Jose da Ponte, married
>>  
>> Hopefully someone else can do better.
>>  
>> Shirley in CA
>>  
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> *From:* 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy 
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 6:22 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.
>>
>> oh my i am sorry the one on the left. looks like Jose de Arruda
>>
>> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: 
>>>
>>> Which one?
>>> On Mar 24, 2017 4:22 PM, "'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy" <
>>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860_item1/P20.html

 I am having a hard time reading this one. can anyone help me. thank you

 Julzz

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

['Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you everyone. I do not think he is the right one. nothing seems to 
match up other then the year he was born and his name. I will keep looking. 
I thought I was looking for baptism. not marriage as I have that. 
Julzz

On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:03:45 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>
> This is the best that I can figure out:
>  
> 4 Feb 1855Item 20, page 18L
> Arrifes
> Jose de Arruda, age 21, native Nossa Senhora da Saude
> (Jose de Arruda X Anna Isabel)
> SPOUSE
> Eugenia Maria
> BAPT:  N.S. Luz, Fenais
> (Joao Furtado, deceased X Claudina Rosa)
> TESTIMONY
> Joao Ferreira, married
> Jose da Ponte, married
>  
> Hopefully someone else can do better.
>  
> Shirley in CA
>  
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy  
> *To:* Azores Genealogy  
> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 6:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.
>
> oh my i am sorry the one on the left. looks like Jose de Arruda
>
> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: 
>>
>> Which one?
>> On Mar 24, 2017 4:22 PM, "'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy" <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860_item1/P20.html
>>>
>>> I am having a hard time reading this one. can anyone help me. thank you
>>>
>>> Julzz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Cheri Mello]

Here's a little more detail from Roberta Estes, on DNA Explained, about the
mitochondria change: https://goo.gl/Wfe5ST

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On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Mary Bordi, Your Order History is in the left column under your name and
> address:
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Cheri Mello
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>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Maybe you are H47 or something and they haven't discovered it yet. FTDNA
>> will periodically update as the science evolves.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Mendonca <
>> jemendonca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did a full mtDNA test and my haplogroup is a straight H and has not
>>> changed.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>>>
 Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
 upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).

 At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago
 to H-G16129A!

 I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he is
 Portuguese!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[Cheri Mello]

You'll need the village (freguesia). You've got names and some general
dates, now for the place. For more how to, go to the Azores GenWeb here:
https://goo.gl/vOijK0

If you can figure out his immigration year, you might find him OUTBOUND
from the Azores to America.

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On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Kellie Crnkovich 
wrote:

> I found this group after joining the Azores FTDNA project I am in the
> process of awaiting family finder results in next few weeks. As my mtDNA is
> not Azores related since my mothers father was the line. He was born in
> Alameda County, California his christened name Anthony Bernard Silva. His
> father Manuel Perry Silva came to California in 1870 from the Azores (per
> Grandpa from Pico) with 2 brothers (I believe Antone and Joseph per census
> records). In 1890 a bride was sent from the Azores Marianna Avila (I have
> gotten many generations of her Family). Years ago a cousin from Sao Jorge
> helped me with her genealogy. I am stuck on Manuel though trying to find
> his correct Silva family. Hoping family finder will help. Grandpa was older
> when my mom was born and passed away when I was 7. I was very close with as
> he lived with us.
>
> This is what I have.
> 193. MANUEL PERRY SILVA (Anthony's father) was born in July 1846, in Pico,
> Azores, to Mr. Silva231 and Ms. Silva232. In 1870, aged about 23, he
> immigrated to according to 1900 census came to U.S. in 1870. He was
> recorded in the census in 1880, aged about 33, in Washington, Alameda,
> California, USA. In 1900, aged about 53, he was a Listed as saloon keeper.
> Manuel was a Farmer. He was recorded in the census in 1900, aged about 53,
> in Emeryville city, Alameda, California, USA. Manuel died on 25 February
> 1917, aged 70, in Alameda, CA. Manuel was buried in Holy Spirit Cemetery,
> 5250 Central Ave, Fremont, CA.
> I would love to find more about his family and where they came from. I
> can't wait to meet more Avila and Silva family out there. I also have a
> site at MyHeritage.com that family can join in and add new info to the tree.
>
> Thank you,
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[Kellie Crnkovich]

I found this group after joining the Azores FTDNA project I am in the process 
of awaiting family finder results in next few weeks. As my mtDNA is not Azores 
related since my mothers father was the line. He was born in Alameda County, 
California his christened name Anthony Bernard Silva. His father Manuel Perry 
Silva came to California in 1870 from the Azores (per Grandpa from Pico) with 2 
brothers (I believe Antone and Joseph per census records). In 1890 a bride was 
sent from the Azores Marianna Avila (I have gotten many generations of her 
Family). Years ago a cousin from Sao Jorge helped me with her genealogy. I am 
stuck on Manuel though trying to find his correct Silva family. Hoping family 
finder will help. Grandpa was older when my mom was born and passed away when I 
was 7. I was very close with as he lived with us.

This is what I have.
193. MANUEL PERRY SILVA (Anthony's father) was born in July 1846, in Pico, 
Azores, to Mr. Silva231 and Ms. Silva232. In 1870, aged about 23, he immigrated 
to according to 1900 census came to U.S. in 1870. He was recorded in the census 
in 1880, aged about 33, in Washington, Alameda, California, USA. In 1900, aged 
about 53, he was a Listed as saloon keeper. Manuel was a Farmer. He was 
recorded in the census in 1900, aged about 53, in Emeryville city, Alameda, 
California, USA. Manuel died on 25 February 1917, aged 70, in Alameda, CA. 
Manuel was buried in Holy Spirit Cemetery, 5250 Central Ave, Fremont, CA. 

I would love to find more about his family and where they came from. I can't 
wait to meet more Avila and Silva family out there. I also have a site at 
MyHeritage.com that family can join in and add new info to the tree. 

Thank you,

Kellie

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Cheri Mello]

Mary Bordi, Your Order History is in the left column under your name and
address:
[image: Inline image 1]

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On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Maybe you are H47 or something and they haven't discovered it yet. FTDNA
> will periodically update as the science evolves.
>
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> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Mendonca  > wrote:
>
>> I did a full mtDNA test and my haplogroup is a straight H and has not
>> changed.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
>>> upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).
>>>
>>> At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago to
>>> H-G16129A!
>>>
>>> I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he is
>>> Portuguese!
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Cheri Mello]

Maybe you are H47 or something and they haven't discovered it yet. FTDNA
will periodically update as the science evolves.

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On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> I did a full mtDNA test and my haplogroup is a straight H and has not
> changed.
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>
>> Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
>> upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).
>>
>> At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago to
>> H-G16129A!
>>
>> I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he is
>> Portuguese!
>>
>> Mary
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Joseph Mendonca]

Mary, those numbers after the H look like a mutation designation at marker
16,129 G (guanine) was replaced by A (adenine).  I have a lot more
mutations than just one and would think that you would also.  I wonder why
they included that in your haplogroup designation.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> I did a full mtDNA test and my haplogroup is a straight H and has not
> changed.
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>
>> Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
>> upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).
>>
>> At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago to
>> H-G16129A!
>>
>> I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he is
>> Portuguese!
>>
>> Mary
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Joseph Mendonca]

I did a full mtDNA test and my haplogroup is a straight H and has not
changed.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

> Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
> upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).
>
> At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago to
> H-G16129A!
>
> I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he is
> Portuguese!
>
> Mary
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Mary Bordi]

Oh, good to know that it needs to be the FMS. I believe that's what I
upgraded to (back in 2009--where has the time gone?).

At one point my haplogroup was H but it was refined quite a while ago to
H-G16129A!

I only have one match and that's at the lowest level. Fortunately he is
Portuguese!

Mary

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Soares/Menezes on San Miguel Island in late 1800's

[Cheri Mello]

Staci,

For your records, the island is Sao Miguel, one of the Azores. San Miguel
is an island off the coast of California.

You have names and dates, but need a specific place. For more how to, go to
the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/vOijK0

The outbound ships lists from Sao Miguel to Hawaii are lost. In "Portuguese
Immigants to Hawaii" compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. on page 415, for
the Swanley, Dec. 12, 1909, it says:
69) Manuel I. Menezes, 35
70) Thereza, 26
71) Maria, 12
72) Antonio, 10
73) Maria C, 8
74) Maria 1

Find out which one of those people naturalized. The one who leaves the
biggest paper trail is where you are most likely to find an answer.


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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:52 PM, SNarducci07  wrote:

> I've just recently started researching my families genealogy. Most
> lineages I can trace back pretty far, but my father's maternal line stops
> at my 2nd great-grandparents who are from San Miguel Island, Azores,
> Portugal. I have a decent amount of information but lack the know-how and
> skills to really know what to do next. I would love to get the names of my
> 3rd great-grandparents. My 2nd great-grandparents are Theresa Soares
> Menezes (Soares is her married Surname I do believe), I've seen she signed
> her name as Thereza J. Menezes as well, she is also known as Maria Theresa
> Soares and was born January 1, 1883, on San Miguel Island, Azores,
> Portugal. Her husband was Manuel Soares Menezes born about June 1875 on San
> Miguel Island as well. They were married on that island at about 1897. They
> had 4 kids born in San Miguel; Mary Theresa Soares, Antone Soares,
> Constance Soares, and Minnie Soares (my great-grandmother). They then
> immigrated to Honolulu on the S.S. Swanley and arrived on December 14th,
> 1909. They had 2 more children in Hawaii; Evelyn and Ann Soares. They then
> moved to California and had one more child John Soares. They continued
> living in San Jose, Santa Clara County, California until they both passed
> away. I only have the date of Theresa Soares death and not Manuel's. Is
> there any way to find the names of either of their parents? I have 2
> sources claiming the surnames Fernandez (Theresa's father) and Jesus
> (Theresa's mother, though I know this is likely a religious name and not a
> surname), I have no information for Manuel's parents.
> Thank you!
> -Staci Narducci
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Soares/Menezes on San Miguel Island in late 1800's

[SNarducci07]

I've just recently started researching my families genealogy. Most lineages 
I can trace back pretty far, but my father's maternal line stops at my 2nd 
great-grandparents who are from San Miguel Island, Azores, Portugal. I have 
a decent amount of information but lack the know-how and skills to really 
know what to do next. I would love to get the names of my 3rd 
great-grandparents. My 2nd great-grandparents are Theresa Soares Menezes 
(Soares is her married Surname I do believe), I've seen she signed her name 
as Thereza J. Menezes as well, she is also known as Maria Theresa Soares 
and was born January 1, 1883, on San Miguel Island, Azores, Portugal. Her 
husband was Manuel Soares Menezes born about June 1875 on San Miguel Island 
as well. They were married on that island at about 1897. They had 4 kids 
born in San Miguel; Mary Theresa Soares, Antone Soares, Constance Soares, 
and Minnie Soares (my great-grandmother). They then immigrated to Honolulu 
on the S.S. Swanley and arrived on December 14th, 1909. They had 2 more 
children in Hawaii; Evelyn and Ann Soares. They then moved to California 
and had one more child John Soares. They continued living in San Jose, 
Santa Clara County, California until they both passed away. I only have the 
date of Theresa Soares death and not Manuel's. Is there any way to find the 
names of either of their parents? I have 2 sources claiming the surnames 
Fernandez (Theresa's father) and Jesus (Theresa's mother, though I know 
this is likely a religious name and not a surname), I have no information 
for Manuel's parents.
Thank you!
-Staci Narducci

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Mary Bordi]

I also checked after receiving that email. No change for me either. I'm an
H with a bunch of numbers after it.

Mary


On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 5:36 AM Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> I just received an email from FTDNA announcing some changes with its mtDNA
> testing.  As of yet I haven't noticed any changes to my haplogroup (H).
> Has anyone here noticed any changes?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Calheta Sao Jorge marriage

[Margaret Vicente]

Any time, Rosemarie.

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> On Mar 25, 2017, at 12:58 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> Thanks so much Margaret. I found the marriage of Domingos and Isabel. Dad is 
> Coresma again but I'm sure it's Quaresma (modern spelling). Now off to see if 
> I can find Francisco & Maria! 
> Thanks again. 
> 
> Rosemarie
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Margaret Vicente 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> After checking the priest's style, I see the Mother's name is Maria Lucas
>> 
>> If you check the document below you will note all short formed names show a 
>> period  ( . ) while the Mother's (a) has none and is just elevated. 
>> 
>> Also, There's no Z in Gonçalves, Fernandes and Domingos.  
>> 
>> date is "desaseis" 16th of June 1688
>> 
>> Joao Teixeira son of Francisco Gonçalves Teixeira and of his wife Maria 
>> Lucas with
>> 
>> Barbara Pereira daughter of Dominguos (Domingos) Fernandes Caresma 
>> (Quaresma) and of his wife Isabel Pereira, already deceased.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Shirley Allegre  
>>> wrote:
>>> See below in Red.   Shirley in CA
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Cheri Mello
>>> To: Azores Genealogy
>>> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 5:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Calheta Sao Jorge marriage
>>> 
>>> I'm not too sure what he's abbreiviating for the groom's mom on top of page 
>>> 2.
>>> 
>>> I think bride's dad is Domingos Fernandes Quaresma (but misspelled as 
>>> Caresma).
>>> 
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>> 
 On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  
 wrote:
 Hi All,
 Well, I need some help with this marriage. It is for my 6th & 7th greats. 
 
 26 Jun 1686 in Calheta, bottom left then on to top right: 
 Joao Teixeira son of Francisco Gonzalves Teixeira and his wife Maria Lucas 
 to Barbara Pereira daughter of Dominguez Fernandez?? Caresma could have
   wound up Quaresma? not a name I'm familier with at all, and his wife 
 Izabel ???, who is dead. 
 
 Here is the link: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P54.html
 Any help would be appreciated. My Joao Teixeira adds the Surname Ferro to 
 his name as the children are born. He is also an official ferreiro 
 (blacksmith). 
 
 Rosemarie
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 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA- mtDNA changes

[Joseph Mendonca]

I just received an email from FTDNA announcing some changes with its mtDNA
testing.  As of yet I haven't noticed any changes to my haplogroup (H).
Has anyone here noticed any changes?

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