Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Having problems with Ana Lourenco's husband's name

[C L]

I work with a woman whose maiden name is Valerio. Her parents were from
Maia, Sao Miguel.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 3:33 PM  wrote:

> Yes it does look like Valerio. Has anyone heard the name Valerio?
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Having problems with Ana Lourenco's husband's name

[doreencaetano]

Yes it does look like Valerio. Has anyone heard the name Valerio?

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From: linda
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Having problems with Ana Lourenco's husband's name

It may be “Valerio”

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Sao Bartolomeu marriage record ofManuel Toledo and Maria da Costa

[Bill Seidler]

Yes I  believe you have it with Luisa

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Having problems with Ana Lourenco's husband's name

[linda]

It may be “Valerio”

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores GenWeb

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks, Kathy!

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores GenWeb

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading baptism of Josepha born 1704 inAltares

[doreencaetano]

Now that you pointed it out Yes. I have corrected this before only to make the 
same mistake. Been at this all day. Need to stop. Thanks, Doreen

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From: Bill Seidler
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 7:43 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading baptism of Josepha born 1704 
inAltares

José ROIS (Rodridgues) .  Bartolomeu Gil's father was João Gonçalves, this is 
José Rodrigues.

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote:
This record has information that does not fit into my other information. The 
record is on the bottom left side of the page. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1690-1707/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1690-1707_item1/P109.html
I believe it says that her Godparents are Joseph Goncalves, widow of Maria 
Marques and the Godmother is his daughter Ana Marques. Now the problem is 
Joseph was deceased at the wedding of his son Bartolomeu Gil when he married 
Maria Nunes in 1670. So I’m thinking I read the record wrong….maybe it is 
???Joseph Goncalves’ son Joseph  but then why did they say it that way
Could someone with better Poprtugues language skills check to see what it says 
about the Godparents of Josefa? Thanks, Doreen
 
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Sao Bartolomeu marriage record ofManuel Toledo and Maria da Costa

[doreencaetano]

Could be Luisa or Luzia

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From: Bill Seidler
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Sao Bartolomeu marriage record 
ofManuel Toledo and Maria da Costa

I think it is Manuel Toledo, son of Bras Lorenço and Maria Toledo with Maria da 
Costa daughter of Gaspar Martins and ??? da Costa.  I'm just not getting the 
mother of the bride's first name.

Bill

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 1:06:05 AM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote:
I can make out the names of the groom and bride but I can not read the names of 
the parents. I do not know if it because it is a different priest or maybe 
names that I’m not familiar with but I can not figure it out. Any help you 
could give would be appreciated. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1606-1653/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1606-1653_item1/P36.html
 The record is at the top of the page.
Sincerely, Doreen Caetano
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Having problems with Ana Lourenco's husband's name

[doreencaetano]

I have several documents that give his name but I’m unfamiliar with it and can 
not make it out. He is married to Ana Lourenco and I have them with two 
children so far.
The first document I have is his son’s (Joao Coelho) marriage to Agueda da 
Costa at the top of the page. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1654-1698/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1654-1698_item1/P72.html
The second document I have is his daughter’s (Ana Lourenco) marriage to Manuel 
Vieira at the top of the left side of the page. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P22.html
Thank you, Doreen Caetano

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Sao Bartolomeu marriage record of Manuel Toledo and Maria da Costa

[Bill Seidler]

I think it is Manuel Toledo, son of Bras Lorenço and Maria Toledo with 
Maria da Costa daughter of Gaspar Martins and ??? da Costa.  I'm just not 
getting the mother of the bride's first name.

Bill

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 1:06:05 AM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote:
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> I can make out the names of the groom and bride but I can not read the 
> names of the parents. I do not know if it because it is a different priest 
> or maybe names that I’m not familiar with but I can not figure it out. Any 
> help you could give would be appreciated. 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1606-1653/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1606-1653_item1/P36.html
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> The record is at the top of the page.
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> Sincerely, Doreen Caetano
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[AZORES-Genealogy] help with Sao Bartolomeu marriage record of Manuel Toledo and Maria da Costa

[doreencaetano]

I can make out the names of the groom and bride but I can not read the names of 
the parents. I do not know if it because it is a different priest or maybe 
names that I’m not familiar with but I can not figure it out. Any help you 
could give would be appreciated. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1606-1653/TER-AH-SAOBARTOLOMEU-C-1606-1653_item1/P36.html
 The record is at the top of the page.
Sincerely, Doreen Caetano
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading this Altares marriagerecordofBartolomeu Goncalves and Maria Nunes from 1670

[doreencaetano]

That’s so funny I do things like that too. Then hen helping cousin do their 
research I’m usually able to give it to someone. This was not part of my 
lineage but my Cousin’s Mel’s tree. He does not do research but his MtDNA test 
came back with a very rare line. In the research group there are only 200 world 
wide so they were so excited to see a new person but I had not completed the 
research on this line so …thus all the work I doing now so I can give them the 
tree that goes with the DNA profile. Thanks again, Doreen

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From: Bill Seidler
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 7:54 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading this Altares 
marriagerecordofBartolomeu Goncalves and Maria Nunes from 1670

Thank you Doreen but this isn't part of any research I am doing.  This was just 
the first inaccuracy I have ever found in the Terceira Marriage Index and I 
became briefly obsessed with researching it thoroughly to make sure I was 
right.  That being said, the marriage index is an invaluable tool that I use 
extensively.  I am grateful for those who created it.

As your sixth-eighth cousin at least 4 different ways through our common 
Ribeirinha ancestry, I am glad you could benefit from my malady.

Bill

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 7:35:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Seidler wrote:
I think Gracia's godparents are Alferes Sebastião Nunes, son of Simão 
Gonçalves, deceased; and Agueda de Luz, daughter of Capitão Francisco Lucas

For Manuel's godparents, I'm having a tough time.  Trying to follow the crooked 
lines it looks like Simão Gonçalves, deceased; and that doesn't make sense.  It 
is probably one of his sons just like it was for his sister Gracia.  The 
godmother looks like Maria Manuel, daughter of Manuel Nunes.

CURA is a title for a priest.





On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 6:40:16 PM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote:
Wow. Thanks. I have spent the day reviewing these and putting them into my 
database. I Have some additional information for you as well but would like to 
start with my questions on what you sent me. 
I’m having trouble reading Gracia and Manuel’s Godparents’ names. Can you look 
at those and get back to me with what you think they are?
I was wondering what the word “Cura” in front of the Joao’s godfather’s name 
(Cura Roque Martins)?
 
Now Bartolomeu Gil and Maria Nunes had two more children:
1. Antonio Martins was their son. He married Isabel do Rosario and they had 7 
children. Both had been married before. Antonio Martins had married a woman 
named Maria Nunes 4/6/1711, 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P128.html.
 Isabel do Rosario was married to Tome Borges2/1716, 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P10.html
 . It appears to me that Isabel married Tome after Antonio died but still need 
to locate his death record to confirm this information. It appear that Isabel 
was Antonio second wife and Maria Nunes is the mother of his children but since 
I have not located the marriage record of Antonio and Isabel I can not say that 
for a fact either. f you want their information let me know.
a. Maria Borges born 5/3/1725 in Altares. I had the link but when I was copying 
it I deleted instead of copied so I will have to find it again but record 
indicates that he is the child of Isabel and Thome.
b. Joao Goncalves Borges born 10/31/1726 and died 11/16/1799. Married Luzia da 
Conceicao in 1754 in Altares, 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P146.html
I have 4 children for them: Antonio Goncalves Borges, Rosa Maria, Joao 
Goncalves Borges and Isabel de Jesus but records indicate that Joao is the son 
of Isabel husband Thome.
c. Francisco Borges born 3/17/1730 in Altares and is also a son of Isabel and 
Thome.
d. Manuel Coelho Borges born 6/3/1734 in Altares. Married a lady names Isabel 
according to child’s information Manuel is also a child of Isabel and Thome.
e. Antonio Borges born 4/28/1740 in Altares, 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1723-1745/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1723-1745_item1/P150.html.
 Antonio is a child of Isabel and Thome.
f. Joao Martins Gil died before 1757 and was married in 1738 in Altares to 
Maria do Espirito Santo 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P80.html.
 I have two children for them: Francisca Ignacia and Andre Martins. Joao is the 
child of Antonio and Maria
g. Thome Martins Gil married Sebastiana Rosa do Sacramento in Altares 1744 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P112.html.Antonio
 is the child of Antonio and Maria.  I have two children for Thome and 
Sebastiana: Antonio Martins Gil and Rosa Joaquina.