Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

Gayle - you would be related to my husband, his brother and my 91 year old 
mother in law!  She was very excited to know about her grandmother's origins.  
She has 3 other sisters still alive, out of 16 siblings.   I can send you an 
obit from the library at Falmouth Massachusetts about Rose Emily Silvia.  She 
was married to a man named John Joseph Silvia who apparently was also from Pico.




From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:56:42 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

P.S. If that tree pans out- we're related several times over. 

Gayle



On Mar 12, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:


I am so sorry Cheri -

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P177.html


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:57:30 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

I don't see the URL to the baptism in question.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:

I appreciate everyone's kind help:)a I am trying hard to read Portuguese and I 
apologize for my inadequate grasp of it.  I found an entry which I think fits 
the Rosa I am looking for, although the father's name is spelled Silveira (as 
Gayle cautioned me it is spelled different from Silvia). Mother's name appears 
to be Anna Maria.

It then goes on to mention Maria Ignacio, Solteira, mother of Francisco O. 
Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa? xxfather? Francisco Jose de Bettencourt Vierra? 
farmer and xxmother Leonor ? who is dead?


From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:11:52 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

You're welcome. When you finally nail down enough information to actually allow 
you to research Sao Mateus, feel free to ask for help. There are only a few of 
us here that research on Pico. There seem to be lots people working on Sao 
Miguel and Sao Jorge. A few on tiny Flores. But, everyone in the Azores group 
is friendly and helpful regardless of where they research. My work has been 
Candelaria, Sao Mateus, Lages, and a smidgen in Madalena. So, if your path 
leads in my direction. I'll do my best to answer your question. I do have 
Bettencourts from Sao Mateus. You mentioned that surname as one possibility for 
Rosa.

I might also suggest before you go much further into the records, that you read 
the article on Naming Traditions. You may already know that surnames did not 
necessarily pass from father to all his offspring. It's what we do here in the 
States, but was not the norm in other parts of the world. Good reading. Kathy 
or Cheri can probably send you a link to the article if you ask.

I was only going to have a one sentence response. Sorry I went over board.

Happy researching,
Gayle

On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:

That You Gayle, That helps!



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


 Original message 
From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>>
Date: 3/10/17 10:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

It's highly doubtful that you'd find Silvia as a surname. More likely it would 
be Silva or Silveira. Both appear in the Sao Mateus records.

Gayle



On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:


Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. Silvia died 
June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days.  It also says her parents names 
were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna Marcia  from St. 
Mathews, Pico.  She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who predeceased her in 1926.


Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named St. 
Mathews?  Also I 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

Thank you Rosemarie!  I have the CD from the seminar last August in my drive, 
and I just printed it out.  Thank you so much for your kindness!


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:57:00 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane, if you send us the link to the document (the URL at the top, in the 
address line) we should be able to help you. If you haven't already, you need 
to download the Genealogical Word List and the Basic Portuguese Paleography 
from Kathy Cardoza's site; AzoresGenWeb,just Google it. She many helpful 
articles and maps etc. on there.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:

I appreciate everyone's kind help:)a I am trying hard to read Portuguese and I 
apologize for my inadequate grasp of it.  I found an entry which I think fits 
the Rosa I am looking for, although the father's name is spelled Silveira (as 
Gayle cautioned me it is spelled different from Silvia). Mother's name appears 
to be Anna Maria.

It then goes on to mention Maria Ignacio, Solteira, mother of Francisco O. 
Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa? xxfather? Francisco Jose de Bettencourt Vierra? 
farmer and xxmother Leonor ? who is dead?


From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:11:52 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

You're welcome. When you finally nail down enough information to actually allow 
you to research Sao Mateus, feel free to ask for help. There are only a few of 
us here that research on Pico. There seem to be lots people working on Sao 
Miguel and Sao Jorge. A few on tiny Flores. But, everyone in the Azores group 
is friendly and helpful regardless of where they research. My work has been 
Candelaria, Sao Mateus, Lages, and a smidgen in Madalena. So, if your path 
leads in my direction. I'll do my best to answer your question. I do have 
Bettencourts from Sao Mateus. You mentioned that surname as one possibility for 
Rosa.

I might also suggest before you go much further into the records, that you read 
the article on Naming Traditions. You may already know that surnames did not 
necessarily pass from father to all his offspring. It's what we do here in the 
States, but was not the norm in other parts of the world. Good reading. Kathy 
or Cheri can probably send you a link to the article if you ask.

I was only going to have a one sentence response. Sorry I went over board.

Happy researching,
Gayle

On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:

That You Gayle, That helps!



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


 Original message 
From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>>
Date: 3/10/17 10:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

It's highly doubtful that you'd find Silvia as a surname. More likely it would 
be Silva or Silveira. Both appear in the Sao Mateus records.

Gayle



On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:


Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. Silvia died 
June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days.  It also says her parents names 
were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna Marcia  from St. 
Mathews, Pico.  She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who predeceased her in 1926.


Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named St. 
Mathews?  Also I am confused by the information because Silvia was her 
husband's name.  Family lore says her maiden name was Bettencourt or some 
variation there of.  The census information we have says  Jan 1863 was the 
Month and Date of her birth but it doesn't seem to be working with the info on 
the death certificate.


We know this is the right woman because the informant was her daughter.  Her 
husband's name was reported as Joseph, but it appears it may have been John 
Joseph Sylia.  The tombstones say Sylva.


Joseph Sylvia died May 28, 1926 at age 55.  The parents names say  "Cannot be 
learned" but do say he was born in Portugal.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

Holey Moley! Thankyou Bill!  The handwriting on this record is so beautiful I 
am embarrassed I cannot interpret it well yet. Perhaps I will find siblings if 
I keep searching, and solve a couple of riddles.


This is the link I missed


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P177.html


Mary Jane


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
bsei2...@gmail.com <bsei2...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:48:06 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Here's the link to what I am sure is the same record

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P177.html

#55,  Rosa, center left

Date of birth is 68 years, 7 months, and 18 days prior to 6 June 1933 so it is 
either her or a remarkable coincidence.

Date of Baptism: 23 Oct 1864
Date of Birth: 18 Oct 1864
Father: Manuel Francisco da Silveira, a farmer, native of this parish
Mother: Anna Maria, housewife, native of this parish
Parents were married in this same parish
Paternal grandmother: Maria Ignacia, single (no paternal grandfather listed, 
presumably incognito)
Maternal grandparents: Francisco Jose de Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa
Godparents: Franciso Jose de Bettencourt, farmer, widower, and godmother Leonor 
Margarida, single

Chalk one up for family lore since the maternal grandfather is Bettencourt.

Bill Seidler



On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 1:58:03 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
I don't see the URL to the baptism in question.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com> wrote:

I appreciate everyone's kind help:)a I am trying hard to read Portuguese and I 
apologize for my inadequate grasp of it.  I found an entry which I think fits 
the Rosa I am looking for, although the father's name is spelled Silveira (as 
Gayle cautioned me it is spelled different from Silvia). Mother's name appears 
to be Anna Maria.

It then goes on to mention Maria Ignacio, Solteira, mother of Francisco O. 
Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa? xxfather? Francisco Jose de Bettencourt Vierra? 
farmer and xxmother Leonor ? who is dead?


From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azo...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:11:52 PM

To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

You're welcome. When you finally nail down enough information to actually allow 
you to research Sao Mateus, feel free to ask for help. There are only a few of 
us here that research on Pico. There seem to be lots people working on Sao 
Miguel and Sao Jorge. A few on tiny Flores. But, everyone in the Azores group 
is friendly and helpful regardless of where they research. My work has been 
Candelaria, Sao Mateus, Lages, and a smidgen in Madalena. So, if your path 
leads in my direction. I'll do my best to answer your question. I do have 
Bettencourts from Sao Mateus. You mentioned that surname as one possibility for 
Rosa.

I might also suggest before you go much further into the records, that you read 
the article on Naming Traditions. You may already know that surnames did not 
necessarily pass from father to all his offspring. It's what we do here in the 
States, but was not the norm in other parts of the world. Good reading. Kathy 
or Cheri can probably send you a link to the article if you ask.

I was only going to have a one sentence response. Sorry I went over board.

Happy researching,
Gayle

On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Mary Jane Goss <mg...@windermere.com> 
wrote:

That You Gayle, That helps!



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


 Original message 
From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azo...@googlegroups.com>
Date: 3/10/17 10:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

It's highly doubtful that you'd find Silvia as a surname. More likely it would 
be Silva or Silveira. Both appear in the Sao Mateus records.

Gayle



On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mary Jane Goss <mg...@windermere.com> 
wrote:


Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. Silvia died 
June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days.  It also says her parents names 
were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna Marcia  from St. 
Mathews, Pico.  She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who predeceased her in 1926.


Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named St. 
Mathews?  Also I am confused by the inf

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

I am so sorry Cheri -

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P177.html


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:57:30 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

I don't see the URL to the baptism in question.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:

I appreciate everyone's kind help:)a I am trying hard to read Portuguese and I 
apologize for my inadequate grasp of it.  I found an entry which I think fits 
the Rosa I am looking for, although the father's name is spelled Silveira (as 
Gayle cautioned me it is spelled different from Silvia). Mother's name appears 
to be Anna Maria.

It then goes on to mention Maria Ignacio, Solteira, mother of Francisco O. 
Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa? xxfather? Francisco Jose de Bettencourt Vierra? 
farmer and xxmother Leonor ? who is dead?


From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:11:52 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

You're welcome. When you finally nail down enough information to actually allow 
you to research Sao Mateus, feel free to ask for help. There are only a few of 
us here that research on Pico. There seem to be lots people working on Sao 
Miguel and Sao Jorge. A few on tiny Flores. But, everyone in the Azores group 
is friendly and helpful regardless of where they research. My work has been 
Candelaria, Sao Mateus, Lages, and a smidgen in Madalena. So, if your path 
leads in my direction. I'll do my best to answer your question. I do have 
Bettencourts from Sao Mateus. You mentioned that surname as one possibility for 
Rosa.

I might also suggest before you go much further into the records, that you read 
the article on Naming Traditions. You may already know that surnames did not 
necessarily pass from father to all his offspring. It's what we do here in the 
States, but was not the norm in other parts of the world. Good reading. Kathy 
or Cheri can probably send you a link to the article if you ask.

I was only going to have a one sentence response. Sorry I went over board.

Happy researching,
Gayle

On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:

That You Gayle, That helps!



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


 Original message 
From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>>
Date: 3/10/17 10:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

It's highly doubtful that you'd find Silvia as a surname. More likely it would 
be Silva or Silveira. Both appear in the Sao Mateus records.

Gayle



On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:


Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. Silvia died 
June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days.  It also says her parents names 
were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna Marcia  from St. 
Mathews, Pico.  She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who predeceased her in 1926.


Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named St. 
Mathews?  Also I am confused by the information because Silvia was her 
husband's name.  Family lore says her maiden name was Bettencourt or some 
variation there of.  The census information we have says  Jan 1863 was the 
Month and Date of her birth but it doesn't seem to be working with the info on 
the death certificate.


We know this is the right woman because the informant was her daughter.  Her 
husband's name was reported as Joseph, but it appears it may have been John 
Joseph Sylia.  The tombstones say Sylva.


Joseph Sylvia died May 28, 1926 at age 55.  The parents names say  "Cannot be 
learned" but do say he was born in Portugal.


I do not know if I have enough information yet to start looking at records on 
Pico.  Any insight is appreciated.


Mary Jane

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

I appreciate everyone's kind help:)a I am trying hard to read Portuguese and I 
apologize for my inadequate grasp of it.  I found an entry which I think fits 
the Rosa I am looking for, although the father's name is spelled Silveira (as 
Gayle cautioned me it is spelled different from Silvia). Mother's name appears 
to be Anna Maria.

It then goes on to mention Maria Ignacio, Solteira, mother of Francisco O. 
Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa? xxfather? Francisco Jose de Bettencourt Vierra? 
farmer and xxmother Leonor ? who is dead?


From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:11:52 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

You're welcome. When you finally nail down enough information to actually allow 
you to research Sao Mateus, feel free to ask for help. There are only a few of 
us here that research on Pico. There seem to be lots people working on Sao 
Miguel and Sao Jorge. A few on tiny Flores. But, everyone in the Azores group 
is friendly and helpful regardless of where they research. My work has been 
Candelaria, Sao Mateus, Lages, and a smidgen in Madalena. So, if your path 
leads in my direction. I'll do my best to answer your question. I do have 
Bettencourts from Sao Mateus. You mentioned that surname as one possibility for 
Rosa.

I might also suggest before you go much further into the records, that you read 
the article on Naming Traditions. You may already know that surnames did not 
necessarily pass from father to all his offspring. It's what we do here in the 
States, but was not the norm in other parts of the world. Good reading. Kathy 
or Cheri can probably send you a link to the article if you ask.

I was only going to have a one sentence response. Sorry I went over board.

Happy researching,
Gayle

On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:

That You Gayle, That helps!



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


 Original message 
From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>>
Date: 3/10/17 10:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

It's highly doubtful that you'd find Silvia as a surname. More likely it would 
be Silva or Silveira. Both appear in the Sao Mateus records.

Gayle



On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:


Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. Silvia died 
June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days.  It also says her parents names 
were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna Marcia  from St. 
Mathews, Pico.  She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who predeceased her in 1926.


Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named St. 
Mathews?  Also I am confused by the information because Silvia was her 
husband's name.  Family lore says her maiden name was Bettencourt or some 
variation there of.  The census information we have says  Jan 1863 was the 
Month and Date of her birth but it doesn't seem to be working with the info on 
the death certificate.


We know this is the right woman because the informant was her daughter.  Her 
husband's name was reported as Joseph, but it appears it may have been John 
Joseph Sylia.  The tombstones say Sylva.


Joseph Sylvia died May 28, 1926 at age 55.  The parents names say  "Cannot be 
learned" but do say he was born in Portugal.


I do not know if I have enough information yet to start looking at records on 
Pico.  Any insight is appreciated.


Mary Jane

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

Thank you Cheri!



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 Original message 
From: Cheri Mello 
Date: 3/10/17 7:42 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

The map of Pico is here. St. Mathew's is an English translation. I'm going to 
let you look at the map and see if you can figure it out:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/pico.html

Assuming "Rose" was born on Pico, look for a Rosa (or maybe Maria) born around 
her birthdate to parents named Manoel Silva (or Sylva) and Anna Maria (I'm 
guessing that's a typo you made). Only then will you be able to confirm or deny 
the family lore of Bettencourt.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

That You Gayle, That helps!



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 Original message 
From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
Date: 3/10/17 10:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

It's highly doubtful that you'd find Silvia as a surname. More likely it would 
be Silva or Silveira. Both appear in the Sao Mateus records.

Gayle



On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mary Jane Goss 
<mg...@windermere.com<mailto:mg...@windermere.com>> wrote:


Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. Silvia died 
June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days.  It also says her parents names 
were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna Marcia  from St. 
Mathews, Pico.  She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who predeceased her in 1926.


Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named St. 
Mathews?  Also I am confused by the information because Silvia was her 
husband's name.  Family lore says her maiden name was Bettencourt or some 
variation there of.  The census information we have says  Jan 1863 was the 
Month and Date of her birth but it doesn't seem to be working with the info on 
the death certificate.


We know this is the right woman because the informant was her daughter.  Her 
husband's name was reported as Joseph, but it appears it may have been John 
Joseph Sylia.  The tombstones say Sylva.


Joseph Sylvia died May 28, 1926 at age 55.  The parents names say  "Cannot be 
learned" but do say he was born in Portugal.


I do not know if I have enough information yet to start looking at records on 
Pico.  Any insight is appreciated.


Mary Jane

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

Thank you Cheri. Is San Mateus a good fit?



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 Original message 
From: Cheri Mello 
Date: 3/10/17 7:42 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico 
born approx 1863

Mary Jane,

The map of Pico is here. St. Mathew's is an English translation. I'm going to 
let you look at the map and see if you can figure it out:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/pico.html

Assuming "Rose" was born on Pico, look for a Rosa (or maybe Maria) born around 
her birthdate to parents named Manoel Silva (or Sylva) and Anna Maria (I'm 
guessing that's a typo you made). Only then will you be able to confirm or deny 
the family lore of Bettencourt.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island of Pico born approx 1863

[Mary Jane Goss]

Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. Silvia died 
June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days.  It also says her parents names 
were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna Marcia  from St. 
Mathews, Pico.  She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who predeceased her in 1926.


Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named St. 
Mathews?  Also I am confused by the information because Silvia was her 
husband's name.  Family lore says her maiden name was Bettencourt or some 
variation there of.  The census information we have says  Jan 1863 was the 
Month and Date of her birth but it doesn't seem to be working with the info on 
the death certificate.


We know this is the right woman because the informant was her daughter.  Her 
husband's name was reported as Joseph, but it appears it may have been John 
Joseph Sylia.  The tombstones say Sylva.


Joseph Sylvia died May 28, 1926 at age 55.  The parents names say  "Cannot be 
learned" but do say he was born in Portugal.


I do not know if I have enough information yet to start looking at records on 
Pico.  Any insight is appreciated.


Mary Jane

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