Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ENOS/ENES VARGAS CONCORD, CA

[Sami]

luiznoia,
Thank you so much for finding the 1880 census! With the Ignacio being 
spelled Ygnacio, and John using the Portuguese spelling Joao, no wonder I 
couldn't find them. They did have a son named Joseph, and a lot of other 
children. I do have Filomena coming to the U.S. in 1868, but it is with her 
father and several siblings. She is 13. They are from Feteira, Faial 
according to the passport record. I also have her father and mother's 
baptism records and they are indeed from Feteira, Faial. About John and 
Filomena's marriage: According to the 1900 census, they had been married 30 
years, so that indicates they married in 1870, which would have them 
marrying in the U.S. Family stories say John was already in the U.S. before 
Filomena came. I am still trying to find out if they married in a church 
nearby, that may still exist so I can find records. 

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>
> When looking at the 1900 census, there are good clues there. 
>
> They both arrived in 1868, 32 years before, and have been married 30 
> years. 
>
> So they married in the Azores, and arrived together. 
>
> Do you have any documents showing Faial as Emma birthplace ?
>
> They are likely from the same area. So I'd be looking at the 1868 Horta 
> passports on CCA
>
>
> Eric 
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi luiznoia! Yes, those are my 2nd great grandparents. I have recently 
>> made contact with a close dna match that was able to put me in touch with 
>> two other cousins on that side. All three are my second cousins once 
>> removed! Unfortunately, no one knows the true story of how John Enes Vargas 
>> got here to the U.S. and what island he came from. His wife was from 
>> Feteira, Faial, so maybe his family was from there. All anyone knows is 
>> that his father's name was Joseph (Jose?) and his mother was possibly 
>> Francesca. I can find nothing on this couple. Still looking! Thank you for 
>> sharing what you found, it is appreciated! 
>> Sami
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:55:54 PM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>>>
>>> The Vargas couple at St Stephens Cemetery, Concord is the couple seen on 
>>> the 1900 census
>>>
>>> their son Manuel is also buried there.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:22 AM, luiznoia . <nobla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sami, 
>>>>
>>>> Here's the 1892 California Voters Register for John Enes Vargas living 
>>>> at Baypoint, Concord Precint, 
>>>>
>>>> Also the 1886 CA Voters. They both show his naturalization date and 
>>>> place. 
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:35 AM, luiznoia . <nobla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sami.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the 1910 census , the name has been switched to Enos. 
>>>>>
>>>>> They lived in Baypoint, which was renamed Port Chicago, and is 
>>>>> currently in the Concord Naval Weapons Station, 
>>>>>
>>>>> having been closed and evacuated by the US government in 1969. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Their son's draft card shows this as his birthplace 
>>>>>
>>>>> This 1914 map shows it on the river north of Concord
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kathie,
>>>>>> I'm wondering now if your Michael J. Enos was my 2nd 
>>>>>> great-grandfather John Enes/Enos Vargas's brother. It has been said his 
>>>>>> father's name was Joseph, but no one can find anything about him. Do you 
>>>>>> have any info on Joseph and Frances? 
>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>> Sami
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:22:27 PM UTC-5, Kathie Enos Simond 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a journey as I have finally found the link to my grandmother 
>>>>>>> Enos, she was always called Emily but her legal name was Susan Emily 
>>>>>>> one I 
>>>>>>> plugged it in correctly all the information fell into place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My GG Grandfather Michael J. Enos was from the Azores, Portugal and 
>>>>>>> arrived in 1885 to New Bedford area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I am correct his le

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ENOS/ENES VARGAS CONCORD, CA

[Sami]

Hi luiznoia! Yes, those are my 2nd great grandparents. I have recently made 
contact with a close dna match that was able to put me in touch with two 
other cousins on that side. All three are my second cousins once removed! 
Unfortunately, no one knows the true story of how John Enes Vargas got here 
to the U.S. and what island he came from. His wife was from Feteira, Faial, 
so maybe his family was from there. All anyone knows is that his father's 
name was Joseph (Jose?) and his mother was possibly Francesca. I can find 
nothing on this couple. Still looking! Thank you for sharing what you 
found, it is appreciated! 
Sami

On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:55:54 PM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>
> The Vargas couple at St Stephens Cemetery, Concord is the couple seen on 
> the 1900 census
>
> their son Manuel is also buried there.
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:22 AM, luiznoia . <nobla...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Sami, 
>>
>> Here's the 1892 California Voters Register for John Enes Vargas living at 
>> Baypoint, Concord Precint, 
>>
>> Also the 1886 CA Voters. They both show his naturalization date and 
>> place. 
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:35 AM, luiznoia . <nobla...@gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Sami.
>>>
>>> On the 1910 census , the name has been switched to Enos. 
>>>
>>> They lived in Baypoint, which was renamed Port Chicago, and is currently 
>>> in the Concord Naval Weapons Station, 
>>>
>>> having been closed and evacuated by the US government in 1969. 
>>>
>>> Their son's draft card shows this as his birthplace 
>>>
>>> This 1914 map shows it on the river north of Concord
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kathie,
>>>> I'm wondering now if your Michael J. Enos was my 2nd great-grandfather 
>>>> John Enes/Enos Vargas's brother. It has been said his father's name was 
>>>> Joseph, but no one can find anything about him. Do you have any info on 
>>>> Joseph and Frances? 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> Sami
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:22:27 PM UTC-5, Kathie Enos Simond wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a journey as I have finally found the link to my grandmother 
>>>>> Enos, she was always called Emily but her legal name was Susan Emily one 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> plugged it in correctly all the information fell into place.
>>>>>
>>>>> My GG Grandfather Michael J. Enos was from the Azores, Portugal and 
>>>>> arrived in 1885 to New Bedford area.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I am correct his legal name would be Miguel Jose Ignatio  ? 
>>>>> Ignatio when spoken with Portuguese dialect sounds exactly like ENOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use google translate with speakers on, which was how I came to 
>>>>> possibility of Ignatio. His fathers name was Joseph ( Jose) and his 
>>>>> mother 
>>>>> Frances (Francesca) this is my best guess anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Wishes- Kathie
>>>>>
>>>>> on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:11:41 AM UTC-4, E. Sharp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had an Aunt Emma.  Her birth name was Mary. She was the 2nd Mary in 
>>>>>> the family so they called her Emma 
>>>>>> "E" 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ENOS/ENES VARGAS CONCORD, CA

[Sami]

Hi Kathie,
I'm wondering now if your Michael J. Enos was my 2nd great-grandfather John 
Enes/Enos Vargas's brother. It has been said his father's name was Joseph, 
but no one can find anything about him. Do you have any info on Joseph and 
Frances? 
Thanks, 
Sami

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:22:27 PM UTC-5, Kathie Enos Simond wrote:
>
> It is a journey as I have finally found the link to my grandmother Enos, 
> she was always called Emily but her legal name was Susan Emily one I 
> plugged it in correctly all the information fell into place.
>
> My GG Grandfather Michael J. Enos was from the Azores, Portugal and 
> arrived in 1885 to New Bedford area.
>
> If I am correct his legal name would be Miguel Jose Ignatio  ? Ignatio 
> when spoken with Portuguese dialect sounds exactly like ENOS.
>
> You can use google translate with speakers on, which was how I came to 
> possibility of Ignatio. His fathers name was Joseph ( Jose) and his mother 
> Frances (Francesca) this is my best guess anyway.
>
> Best Wishes- Kathie
>
> on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:11:41 AM UTC-4, E. Sharp wrote:
>
>> I had an Aunt Emma.  Her birth name was Mary. She was the 2nd Mary in the 
>> family so they called her Emma 
>> "E" 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>  
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Patron Saints

[Sami]

Thank you for this list! Is there a particular one for Capelo? 

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:44:09 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>
> If I may, and to clarify - because an island bears the name of a Saint it 
> does not mean it is "The" patron saint for that island.  Sao Miguel is the 
> patron saint in the parish that venerates him which is the Matrix of Vila 
> Franca do Campo.  
>
> Sao Miguel, Santa Maria and Sao Jorge are island names.
>
> Regarding patron saints for Faial.
>
> There's no St John of Caldeira.  Following is a list of all the patron 
> saints for that island
>
>
>- Senhor Santo Cristo (Holy Christ) -  Paia do Almoxarife (February 
>1st)
>- São João Baptista,[St. John Baptist] patron of the nobility of the 
>island (June 24th)
>-  Divino Espírito Santo [Divine Holy Spirity) (across all islands)
>- Nossa Senhora das Angústias [Our Lady of Anguish]  - Semana do Mar
>-  Nossa Senhora da Graça [Our Lady of Grace] - Praia do Almoxarife
>-  Nossa Senhora de Lurdes [Our Lady of Lurdes] -  Feteira, 
>-  Santa Cecília, in te Matriz, [ Sain Cecilia] patron of the 
>muscialns (25th of Novembro)
>- Santa Catarina de Alexandria [Sain Catherine of Alenxadria] - 
> Castelo Branco
>- Nossa Senhora da Conceição [Our lady of Conception] (8th of 
>December) (across all islands)
>
> The list is to the credit of Ilha do Faial -  Memória Portuguesa 
> <http://terrasdeportugal.wikidot.com/>
>
> http://terrasdeportugal.wikidot.com/ilha-do-faial
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes. That is why I mentioned St. John the Baptist's feast day is June 
>> 24rh, same as St. John Caldeira.
>> On Jul 12, 2017 4:15 PM, "Sami" <sauda...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering which "St. John" that Sao Joao da 
>>> Caldeira is? I cannot find anything about this saint. Is he the same as St. 
>>> John the Baptist, or Saint John of God? 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:29:19 PM UTC-5, Sami wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the 
>>>> island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to 
>>>> get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in 
>>>> advance for any answers! :)
>>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Patron Saints

[Sami]

Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering which "St. John" that Sao Joao da 
Caldeira is? I cannot find anything about this saint. Is he the same as St. 
John the Baptist, or Saint John of God? 

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:29:19 PM UTC-5, Sami wrote:
>
> I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the 
> island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to 
> get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in 
> advance for any answers! :)
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

[Sami]

I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the 
island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to 
get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in 
advance for any answers! :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting Baptism

[Sami]

LOL! Thank you for clearing that up! 

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 3:56:19 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Born 16  Jan 1842 and baptized (urgent) at home by the maternal 
> grandfather (with the holy oils) on 18th of the said month and year.
>
> The priest had it right. The college students were flirting and not 
> focusing on the task at hand. LOL
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1829-1845/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1829-1845_item1/P272.html
>>   
>>  Here is the actual baptism record. He is bottom right-hand page: Francisco
>>
>> On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> The priest didn't do the CITCEM-GHP. College students did. So it's 
>>> always open to human error. Best to get the baptism off the CCA and cross 
>>> check. Cheri
>>> On Apr 6, 2017 11:34 AM, "Sami" <sauda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In looking for family members, I found this baptism record on CITCEM. I 
>>>> find it interesting that it appears the baby was baptized in utero...the 
>>>> baptism date is before the birth! Did the priest make a mistake entering 
>>>> the information or was this some odd circumstance? There is a "NOTA" at 
>>>> the 
>>>> bottom- could someone please translate? I'm thinking it holds a possible 
>>>> explanation. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- Nascido (16 FEV 1842) - Freguesia da Feteira
>>>>- Baptizado a 18 de Janeiro de 1842 - Igreja Paroquial Divino 
>>>>Espírito Santo
>>>>
>>>> Pais
>>>>
>>>>- José de Vargas Dias 
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=pt;p=jose+de+vargas;n=dias>
>>>> *1810*
>>>>- Maria Madalena 
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=pt;p=maria;n=madalena;oc=2>
>>>>
>>>> Notas
>>>>
>>>>- 
>>>>
>>>> *NOTA: O Francisco foi baptizado em casa "urgente(sic)" por seu avô 
>>>>materno e recebeu os "santos óleos" a 18 de Janeiro de 1842, na Igreja 
>>>>Paroquial Divino Espírito Santo.*
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting Baptism

[Sami]

In looking for family members, I found this baptism record on CITCEM. I 
find it interesting that it appears the baby was baptized in utero...the 
baptism date is before the birth! Did the priest make a mistake entering 
the information or was this some odd circumstance? There is a "NOTA" at the 
bottom- could someone please translate? I'm thinking it holds a possible 
explanation. 


   - Nascido (16 FEV 1842) - Freguesia da Feteira
   - Baptizado a 18 de Janeiro de 1842 - Igreja Paroquial Divino Espírito 
   Santo

Pais
   
   - José de Vargas Dias 
   

*1810*
   - Maria Madalena 
   


Notas
   
   - 

*NOTA: O Francisco foi baptizado em casa "urgente(sic)" por seu avô materno 
   e recebeu os "santos óleos" a 18 de Janeiro de 1842, na Igreja Paroquial 
   Divino Espírito Santo.*

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport Translation Please

[Sami]

Mara, here are the names as I know them: Father is Jose de Vargas Dias, a 
widow from Feteira. His children are Francisco (who wasn't listed), two 
daughters named Maria, two named Rosa, a daughter named Filomena, and the 
youngest son named Joao. I found the record on Ancestry that lists them 
coming off the ship Maria da Gloria in August of 1868. The names there are: 
Jose, Maria M, Maria Gloria, Filomena, Roza Isabel, and Joao. 

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 12:06:26 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>
> I think Sami should post the names so we can have a look and confirm the 
> proper Portuguese version instead of guessing.  
>
> Where Cheri sees Maria da Gloria I see two A) Maria 8  and B) Gloria 20 
> now you have the 6 kids 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> It looks like a slave, Joseph, to me. Maybe someone else with better eyes 
> can look.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hurray!!! I'm so excited to have found this! Could the other name you 
>> were unclear on be Joao? He is Jose's youngest son, and he is listed on the 
>> passenger list I found. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 10:41:19 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, it's Filomena.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you. I was wondering if it were possible that the 13 year old's 
>>>> name could be Filomena instead? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Registered 16 June 1868, Jose de Vargas Dias, widower, proprietor, 57 
>>>>> years old, 1.71 meters tall, then it describes face, nose, eyes, hair 
>>>>> etcDestination United States, accompanied by his family something 6 
>>>>> persons, Rosa Augusta 18 years, Maria Madalena 25 years, Maria da Gloria 
>>>>> (?) 20 years, Sofia?? (can't tell really) 15 years, Felicianna 13 years, 
>>>>> and then it almost looks like escravo (slave) Joseph?? I can't tell on 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> at all. They are from Faial, council of Horta, freguesia of Feteira. The 
>>>>> last column is the ship. It doesn't say when it left, but it says the 
>>>>> name. 
>>>>> I can only read part of the name. It has Gloria in the name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could someone please translate what information is given for the 
>>>>>> first passenger on the page, Jose De Vargas Dias? I am particularly 
>>>>>> interested in the section where it lists who he is traveling with. It 
>>>>>> may 
>>>>>> be his children and if I can get their names it will greatly help me 
>>>>>> determine if I have the right person. His marital status is widowed, 
>>>>>> yes? Does the entry say when they left or what ship they went on? If 
>>>>>> not, 
>>>>>> is there a way to find out? Also, what is said at the very end of the 
>>>>>> entry? Thanks in advance for any help!  
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876_item1/P18.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport Translation Please

[Sami]

Hurray!!! I'm so excited to have found this! Could the other name you were 
unclear on be Joao? He is Jose's youngest son, and he is listed on the 
passenger list I found. 

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 10:41:19 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Yes, it's Filomena.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you. I was wondering if it were possible that the 13 year old's 
>> name could be Filomena instead? 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Registered 16 June 1868, Jose de Vargas Dias, widower, proprietor, 57 
>>> years old, 1.71 meters tall, then it describes face, nose, eyes, hair 
>>> etcDestination United States, accompanied by his family something 6 
>>> persons, Rosa Augusta 18 years, Maria Madalena 25 years, Maria da Gloria 
>>> (?) 20 years, Sofia?? (can't tell really) 15 years, Felicianna 13 years, 
>>> and then it almost looks like escravo (slave) Joseph?? I can't tell on that 
>>> at all. They are from Faial, council of Horta, freguesia of Feteira. The 
>>> last column is the ship. It doesn't say when it left, but it says the name. 
>>> I can only read part of the name. It has Gloria in the name.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could someone please translate what information is given for the first 
>>>> passenger on the page, Jose De Vargas Dias? I am particularly interested 
>>>> in 
>>>> the section where it lists who he is traveling with. It may be his 
>>>> children 
>>>> and if I can get their names it will greatly help me determine if I have 
>>>> the right person. His marital status is widowed, yes? Does the entry say 
>>>> when they left or what ship they went on? If not, is there a way to find 
>>>> out? Also, what is said at the very end of the entry? Thanks in advance 
>>>> for 
>>>> any help!  
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876_item1/P18.html
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria da Gloria Passenger List to Boston 1868

[Sami]

I found them! Ancestry had a Massachusetts Passenger and Crew Lists, 
1820-1963. The names and some ages were messed up, but my guess is that 
whoever met them in Boston getting off the ship didn't understand them?  

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 10:41:56 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> No passenger lists, only passaportes lists which you have.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876_item1/P18.html
>
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> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know where I can find a passenger list for the ship *Maria 
>> da Gloria*, sailing from the Azores to Boston, MA arriving 12 Aug 1868?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport Translation Please

[Sami]

Thank you. I was wondering if it were possible that the 13 year old's name 
could be Filomena instead? 



On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Registered 16 June 1868, Jose de Vargas Dias, widower, proprietor, 57 
> years old, 1.71 meters tall, then it describes face, nose, eyes, hair 
> etcDestination United States, accompanied by his family something 6 
> persons, Rosa Augusta 18 years, Maria Madalena 25 years, Maria da Gloria 
> (?) 20 years, Sofia?? (can't tell really) 15 years, Felicianna 13 years, 
> and then it almost looks like escravo (slave) Joseph?? I can't tell on that 
> at all. They are from Faial, council of Horta, freguesia of Feteira. The 
> last column is the ship. It doesn't say when it left, but it says the name. 
> I can only read part of the name. It has Gloria in the name.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Could someone please translate what information is given for the first 
>> passenger on the page, Jose De Vargas Dias? I am particularly interested in 
>> the section where it lists who he is traveling with. It may be his children 
>> and if I can get their names it will greatly help me determine if I have 
>> the right person. His marital status is widowed, yes? Does the entry say 
>> when they left or what ship they went on? If not, is there a way to find 
>> out? Also, what is said at the very end of the entry? Thanks in advance for 
>> any help!  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876_item1/P18.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria da Gloria Passenger List to Boston 1868

[Sami]

Does anyone know where I can find a passenger list for the ship *Maria da 
Gloria*, sailing from the Azores to Boston, MA arriving 12 Aug 1868?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Passport Translation Please

[Sami]

Could someone please translate what information is given for the first 
passenger on the page, Jose De Vargas Dias? I am particularly interested in 
the section where it lists who he is traveling with. It may be his children 
and if I can get their names it will greatly help me determine if I have 
the right person. His marital status is widowed, yes? Does the entry say 
when they left or what ship they went on? If not, is there a way to find 
out? Also, what is said at the very end of the entry? Thanks in advance for 
any help!  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876_item1/P18.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Returning Home to Azores from US

[Sami]

Hi Jeremy,
I'm sorry I have no advice, but I am in a similar position. I searched a 
long while for what happened to my great-grandfather. He disappeared after 
the 1930 census and I couldn't find a death record or anything on him. Just 
recently, I found out that he returned home to Capelo, Faial to live out 
his remaining days. I too cannot find any record of his going back. I 
cannot even find records of him coming to the U.S. I'm beginning to think 
he swam, ha ha. Anyway, I just wanted to say I understand how you feel, 
especially about getting a picture. I have none of any of my Azorean 
ancestors, which makes me very sad. Best of luck and I hope you get your 
information without paying those ridiculous fees! 
Sami

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 12:18:51 AM UTC-6, Jeremy G. B-C wrote:
>
> Hello! 
>
> I have a great uncle who came to this country in 1899 or 1900. I find no 
> passport on Terceira, nor on Horta, but that's not the issue I'm having.  I 
> know he had a daughter born in 1899 in the Islands to his wife Maria. He 
> was in California for the 1910 cencus, and I believe he probably went back 
> home soon thereafter.  While he was here, he was naturalized.  So he ended 
> up dying at home in Faja dos Cubres (Ribeira Seca) on Sao Jorge in 1933. 
> Daughter is still living and had married, and his wife is completely 
> different so im sure the first wife died.   
>
> I am trying to figure out when he DEPARTED and arrived in the Islands.. a 
> reverse of the usual. Unfortunately even though I have his departmental 
> passport number, they (the gov) refuse to service my request for copies 
> since it was from the late twenties (just a few thousand after what 
> ancestry has) and apparently just within privacy laws. They told me it 
> won't be available for some time, and I can't get copies unless I am the 
> person named on the passport. (Real intellectually since he was born in 
> 1879 and died over 80 years ago).   
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I may find the date he 
> arrived in the azores? 
>
> If anyone has anything on a Paula Munoz in their databases please let me 
> know (with such a unique name). She was the second wife who id love to know 
> of.  His name was Antonio Machado Cardoza. The daughter was Maria who 
> married a man named Costa and moved to the village of Calheta. 
>
>
>
> Thanks 
>
> Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Inventario de Maria Angelica do Coracao de Jesus e Antonio Pereira Goulart

[Sami]

Thanks Cheri, I thought that would be the case. I am already in touch with 
Joao about getting my great-grandfather's death info, so I will ask him 
about this record when he returns from California. 

On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 10:12:39 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> That's that sorta sister site to the CCA. You can either go to the Azores 
> or hire someone to go there and get it for you. I think it says it is 
> physically in Horta. If so, I believe Joao Ventura goes to Horta from time 
> to time. Right now, he's in California, lecturing on genealogy. Go ahead 
> and email him and ask if he can get it for you, but he may not get back to 
> you right away. heroi99 at yahoo.com
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Since I cannot go in person to view this record, is there another way to 
>> find out what this is about and be able to view the record? 
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=999351=Antonio|Pereira|Goulart
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Inventario de Maria Angelica do Coracao de Jesus e Antonio Pereira Goulart

[Sami]

Since I cannot go in person to view this record, is there another way to 
find out what this is about and be able to view the record? 
http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=999351=Antonio|Pereira|Goulart

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: UPEC membership file question

[Sami]

Thanks to everyone who answered. I really appreciate your explanations and 
have a better understanding now of how the records work! 

On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 10:53:24 PM UTC-6, Sami wrote:
>
>  I am trying to find some ancestors and since this particular one farmed 
> in Concord with her husband, I thought I'd take a look at the membership 
> files for UPEC Concord. I have found two that could be my ancestor: #23 
> Emma Vargas, and #85 Inacia Emilia Vargas. Could someone please take a look 
> and tell me why these women are noted in this book, i.e. the significance 
> of the entry and any other pertinent information? Thanks so much!  
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gn5xsv2h138r3pu/Concord__20.pdf?dl=0
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[AZORES-Genealogy] ENOS/ENES VARGAS CONCORD, CA

[Sami]

I am looking for any information on *John ENOS (VARGAS)* born abt.1841; 
immigrated either in 1860 or 1868, lived in Concord, Contra Costa County, 
CA and was a farmer; and a woman named *Emma VARGAS*. They were married 
about 1870. I don't know where but I sure wish I did so I could get their 
marriage certificate. They had 14 children; 13 living. I could not find 
them in any census reports prior to the 1900, so I am missing 3 of their 
children. These are the ones I do know:

*Joseph* b. abt. 1873
*Mary L. (DUTRA)* b.1874 d. 1957 of Concord

*Emma (my great-grandmother) *b.12 Jul 1880 d. 30 Sep 1957 in Santa Clara 
*Annie* b. abt. 1882
*Theresa (NUNES)* b.1885 d. 1968 of Concord
*Manuel* b. abt. 1886
*Frank* b. abt. 1887 of Concord
*Angie (MESQUITA)* b.1889 d. 1972 in Hayward
*Aggie (Agnes) (BENZ)* b.1892 d. 1980 
*Evelyn (MCDERMOTT)* b.1897 d.1966 in Marin Co.


There is a story circulating in Ancestry about a John Enos Vargas born in 
1838...but I cannot reconcile the information about this man with my John. 
I lost this couple after the 1910 census, but found a man by the same name 
in the 1920 census living as a lodger in the Clyde Hotel, married, but no 
Emma. Then I found a woman with the same name, married, in another 1920 
census living as an "inmate" in the Napa State Hospital. This could 
possibly explain why they are not together in a census after the 1910. 
There is also a Find A Grave entry on a couple with the same names who died 
in 1923 and 1928, and are buried in St. Stephen's in Concord. They farmed 
for years in Concord, so this too is plausible, but I am not sure if these 
are my John and Emma. Any information anyone has regarding these two will 
be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faria from the Azores

[Sami]

Edna, YES! I'm still trying to figure out that too! I was sure it was from 
Antonio Pereira de Faria and up that line, but now I don't know since 
Manuel was really a Goulart and on his mother's side, do Coracao de Jesus! 
His godfather was Manuel Silveira de Faria- I'm assuming that's who he was 
named after. 

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 12:22:01 AM UTC-6, dave-edna wrote:
>
> OK Sami, now we have to figure how you and I connect!   I looked some 
> tonight with what you posted but … still looking.;)
>
> Edna 
> dave...@comcast.net  Blessed are they who maintain 
> justice, who constantly do what is right. (Psalm 106:3)
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> I just wanted to post an update: As of last night, I found Manuel and his 
> family This has been 3 years of digging. I'm so excited! He and his 
> family were from Capelo, Faial. His father was Antonio Pereira GOULART; 
> mother was Maria Angelica do Coracao de Jesus. I am now trying to connect 
> him from his birthplace in Capelo to where he lived for a little over 40 
> years in California, and then back to Capelo where he died. I'm having no 
> luck finding passports, naturalization papers, etc. on him so the search 
> continues. I have someone looking up his death record for me so hope to 
> find more there! On to the ENOS/ENES VARGAS possibly DIAS side next! Thanks 
> to everyone who responded. If anyone has Manuel and/or any of his family 
> members in your family and have pictures, PLEASE contact me! 
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:57:11 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Repost for Sami, saudade1264 at gmail.com
>>
>> My grandfather was Portuguese, and his father was from the Azores. My 
>> great-grandmother's family as well was from the Azores. I have been trying 
>> to find out specifically which Azores island they are from. I am hoping 
>> someone may recognize a name or two from the information I have gathered 
>> these past few years. 
>>
>> Here's what I have...
>>
>> My maternal grandfather: *Lawrence Daniel FARIA*, born 5 June 1907 in 
>> Martinez/Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA; died 18 Nov 1961 in San Pablo. I 
>> have his WWII draft card and headstone application.
>>
>> My great grandfather: *Manuel P. (Pereira?) FARIA* born in the Azores 
>> 1877. His WWI draft card says January. A census says Feb. His year of 
>> immigration is either 1894 or 1895. The earliest census I have from 1900 
>> has him newly married and living in Port Costa. From 1910 until 1930, they 
>> lived in Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA. In the 1930 census, he isn't 
>> listed, but someone named "John S." is, and is the same age Manuel would 
>> be. His occupation was as a laborer in an oil refinery (Standard Oil?) I 
>> can find no record of him immigrating, and no death record. It's like he 
>> just disappeared.
>>
>> My great grandmother: *Emma ENOS* born in California 12 July 1880; died 
>> 30 Sep 1957 in Santa Clara, but was brought back to be buried at St. 
>> Joseph's in San Pablo, Contra Costa. I believe her parents were *John 
>> ENOS (VARGAS)* born abt.1841; immigrated either in 1860 or 1868, lived 
>> in Concord, Contra Costa County and is a farmer; and a woman named *Emma 
>> VARGAS*. They were married about 1870.
>>
>> From my great grandmother Emma's obit, I was able to get the names of her 
>> siblings, and they are present with this couple in several census reports. 
>> Emma's siblings include:
>> *Joseph* b. abt. 1873
>> *Mary L. (DUTRA)* b. abt. 1874 d. 1957? of Concord
>> *Annie* b. abt. 1882
>> *Theresa (NUNES)* b. abt. 1884 of Concord
>> *Manuel* b. abt. 1885
>> *Frank* b. abt. 1887 of Concord
>> *Angie (MESQUITA)* b. abt. 1889 d. 1972
>> *Aggie; nickname for Agnes (BENZ)* b. abt. 1892
>> *Evelyn (MCDERMOTT)* b. abt. 1897 d.1966
>>
>> In a census report, John and Emma state they had 14 children, 13 who were 
>> living- so I don't know where the others are listed. These are all I could 
>> find.
>>
>> My great-grandparents Emma and Manuel had the following children (besides 
>> my grandfather Lawrence):
>> *Manuel G. (wife TAMBLYN)* b. 1902 d. 1976 in San Pablo
>> *Evelyn Mary (KELLY/BLODGETT)* b. 1909 d.1989 in Washington
>> *John H.* b. abt. 1914
>> *Anthony P.* b. abt. 1914 d. 2004
>> *Philomena (DAVIS)* b.1915 d. 1936 in El Cerrito
>> *Margaret M. (BETTENCOURT)* b. abt. 1917 
>> *Frances Patricia (ELLWANGER)* b. abt.1919 d. 1987 in Santa Clara
>> *Rose Ann (ATKINSON)* b. abt.1921 d. 2000 in San Pablo
>>
>> If anyone knows an

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faria from the Azores

[Sami]

Sandra, is that St. Joseph's the church, or the cemetery? 

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 7:49:25 PM UTC-6, Sandra Perez wrote:
>
> Yes,
>
> St. Joseph's is still there.
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Sandra! I've contacted a couple other churches in the area just 
>> yesterday- St. Paul (my great-grandmother's mass was held there when she 
>> died), and St. Catherine of Sienna. Is St. Joseph's still there? My 
>> great-grandmother and my grandfather are buried at St. Josephs. I'll check 
>> into it! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-6, Sandra Perez wrote:
>>>
>>> Sami,
>>>
>>> You might check St. Mark's church records in Richmond (I was baptized 
>>> there).  I made my first communion and
>>> confirmation at St. Joseph's in San Pablo.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Generally, you have to get back to about the early 18teens to make a 
>>>> connection. A few lucky people hit someone researching their lines right 
>>>> away. Most don't.
>>>>
>>>> You really need your freguesia (village) and you don't have your island 
>>>> yet. Knowing the Azores is like saying you know someone was born in 
>>>> America. And you want help finding that person and no indices exist.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some sources to help you find your island and freguesia. It's 
>>>> from the Azores GenWeb: https://goo.gl/vOijK0
>>>> Good luck, Cheri
>>>>
>>>> H
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any of these people in their family trees please? I 
>>>>> keep hitting brick walls with each one of these I try to trace. The main 
>>>>> ones are Manuel P. Faria, John Enos/Enes Vargas (or sometimes shown as 
>>>>> John 
>>>>> V. Enos), and John's wife Emma. Does anyone know if "Emma" is a nickname 
>>>>> for Philomena/Filomena? Thanks! 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:57:11 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Repost for Sami, saudade1264 at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My grandfather was Portuguese, and his father was from the Azores. My 
>>>>>> great-grandmother's family as well was from the Azores. I have been 
>>>>>> trying 
>>>>>> to find out specifically which Azores island they are from. I am hoping 
>>>>>> someone may recognize a name or two from the information I have gathered 
>>>>>> these past few years. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's what I have...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My maternal grandfather: *Lawrence Daniel FARIA*, born 5 June 1907 
>>>>>> in Martinez/Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA; died 18 Nov 1961 in San 
>>>>>> Pablo. I 
>>>>>> have his WWII draft card and headstone application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My great grandfather: *Manuel P. (Pereira?) FARIA* born in the 
>>>>>> Azores 1877. His WWI draft card says January. A census says Feb. His 
>>>>>> year 
>>>>>> of immigration is either 1894 or 1895. The earliest census I have from 
>>>>>> 1900 
>>>>>> has him newly married and living in Port Costa. From 1910 until 1930, 
>>>>>> they 
>>>>>> lived in Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA. In the 1930 census, he isn't 
>>>>>> listed, but someone named "John S." is, and is the same age Manuel would 
>>>>>> be. His occupation was as a laborer in an oil refinery (Standard Oil?) I 
>>>>>> can find no record of him immigrating, and no death record. It's like he 
>>>>>> just disappeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My great grandmother: *Emma ENOS* born in California 12 July 1880; 
>>>>>> died 30 Sep 1957 in Santa Clara, but was brought back to be buried at 
>>>>>> St. 
>>>>>> Joseph's in San Pablo, Contra Costa. I believe her parents

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faria from the Azores

[Sami]

I just wanted to post an update: As of last night, I found Manuel and his 
family This has been 3 years of digging. I'm so excited! He and his 
family were from Capelo, Faial. His father was Antonio Pereira GOULART; 
mother was Maria Angelica do Coracao de Jesus. I am now trying to connect 
him from his birthplace in Capelo to where he lived for a little over 40 
years in California, and then back to Capelo where he died. I'm having no 
luck finding passports, naturalization papers, etc. on him so the search 
continues. I have someone looking up his death record for me so hope to 
find more there! On to the ENOS/ENES VARGAS possibly DIAS side next! Thanks 
to everyone who responded. If anyone has Manuel and/or any of his family 
members in your family and have pictures, PLEASE contact me! 

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:57:11 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Repost for Sami, saudade1264 at gmail.com
>
> My grandfather was Portuguese, and his father was from the Azores. My 
> great-grandmother's family as well was from the Azores. I have been trying 
> to find out specifically which Azores island they are from. I am hoping 
> someone may recognize a name or two from the information I have gathered 
> these past few years. 
>
> Here's what I have...
>
> My maternal grandfather: *Lawrence Daniel FARIA*, born 5 June 1907 in 
> Martinez/Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA; died 18 Nov 1961 in San Pablo. I 
> have his WWII draft card and headstone application.
>
> My great grandfather: *Manuel P. (Pereira?) FARIA* born in the Azores 
> 1877. His WWI draft card says January. A census says Feb. His year of 
> immigration is either 1894 or 1895. The earliest census I have from 1900 
> has him newly married and living in Port Costa. From 1910 until 1930, they 
> lived in Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA. In the 1930 census, he isn't 
> listed, but someone named "John S." is, and is the same age Manuel would 
> be. His occupation was as a laborer in an oil refinery (Standard Oil?) I 
> can find no record of him immigrating, and no death record. It's like he 
> just disappeared.
>
> My great grandmother: *Emma ENOS* born in California 12 July 1880; died 
> 30 Sep 1957 in Santa Clara, but was brought back to be buried at St. 
> Joseph's in San Pablo, Contra Costa. I believe her parents were *John 
> ENOS (VARGAS)* born abt.1841; immigrated either in 1860 or 1868, lived in 
> Concord, Contra Costa County and is a farmer; and a woman named *Emma 
> VARGAS*. They were married about 1870.
>
> From my great grandmother Emma's obit, I was able to get the names of her 
> siblings, and they are present with this couple in several census reports. 
> Emma's siblings include:
> *Joseph* b. abt. 1873
> *Mary L. (DUTRA)* b. abt. 1874 d. 1957? of Concord
> *Annie* b. abt. 1882
> *Theresa (NUNES)* b. abt. 1884 of Concord
> *Manuel* b. abt. 1885
> *Frank* b. abt. 1887 of Concord
> *Angie (MESQUITA)* b. abt. 1889 d. 1972
> *Aggie; nickname for Agnes (BENZ)* b. abt. 1892
> *Evelyn (MCDERMOTT)* b. abt. 1897 d.1966
>
> In a census report, John and Emma state they had 14 children, 13 who were 
> living- so I don't know where the others are listed. These are all I could 
> find.
>
> My great-grandparents Emma and Manuel had the following children (besides 
> my grandfather Lawrence):
> *Manuel G. (wife TAMBLYN)* b. 1902 d. 1976 in San Pablo
> *Evelyn Mary (KELLY/BLODGETT)* b. 1909 d.1989 in Washington
> *John H.* b. abt. 1914
> *Anthony P.* b. abt. 1914 d. 2004
> *Philomena (DAVIS)* b.1915 d. 1936 in El Cerrito
> *Margaret M. (BETTENCOURT)* b. abt. 1917 
> *Frances Patricia (ELLWANGER)* b. abt.1919 d. 1987 in Santa Clara
> *Rose Ann (ATKINSON)* b. abt.1921 d. 2000 in San Pablo
>
> If anyone knows any of these people or someone who does; knows of any 
> living descendants who keep good records; or anything about any of them- 
> PLEASE contact me! Thank you all so much for any help received!
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faria from the Azores

[Sami]

Thank you Sandra! I've contacted a couple other churches in the area just 
yesterday- St. Paul (my great-grandmother's mass was held there when she 
died), and St. Catherine of Sienna. Is St. Joseph's still there? My 
great-grandmother and my grandfather are buried at St. Josephs. I'll check 
into it! 

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-6, Sandra Perez wrote:
>
> Sami,
>
> You might check St. Mark's church records in Richmond (I was baptized 
> there).  I made my first communion and
> confirmation at St. Joseph's in San Pablo.
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Generally, you have to get back to about the early 18teens to make a 
>> connection. A few lucky people hit someone researching their lines right 
>> away. Most don't.
>>
>> You really need your freguesia (village) and you don't have your island 
>> yet. Knowing the Azores is like saying you know someone was born in 
>> America. And you want help finding that person and no indices exist.
>>
>> Here are some sources to help you find your island and freguesia. It's 
>> from the Azores GenWeb: https://goo.gl/vOijK0
>> Good luck, Cheri
>>
>> H
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Sami <sauda...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have any of these people in their family trees please? I 
>>> keep hitting brick walls with each one of these I try to trace. The main 
>>> ones are Manuel P. Faria, John Enos/Enes Vargas (or sometimes shown as John 
>>> V. Enos), and John's wife Emma. Does anyone know if "Emma" is a nickname 
>>> for Philomena/Filomena? Thanks! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:57:11 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Repost for Sami, saudade1264 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> My grandfather was Portuguese, and his father was from the Azores. My 
>>>> great-grandmother's family as well was from the Azores. I have been trying 
>>>> to find out specifically which Azores island they are from. I am hoping 
>>>> someone may recognize a name or two from the information I have gathered 
>>>> these past few years. 
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I have...
>>>>
>>>> My maternal grandfather: *Lawrence Daniel FARIA*, born 5 June 1907 in 
>>>> Martinez/Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA; died 18 Nov 1961 in San Pablo. I 
>>>> have his WWII draft card and headstone application.
>>>>
>>>> My great grandfather: *Manuel P. (Pereira?) FARIA* born in the Azores 
>>>> 1877. His WWI draft card says January. A census says Feb. His year of 
>>>> immigration is either 1894 or 1895. The earliest census I have from 1900 
>>>> has him newly married and living in Port Costa. From 1910 until 1930, they 
>>>> lived in Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA. In the 1930 census, he isn't 
>>>> listed, but someone named "John S." is, and is the same age Manuel would 
>>>> be. His occupation was as a laborer in an oil refinery (Standard Oil?) I 
>>>> can find no record of him immigrating, and no death record. It's like he 
>>>> just disappeared.
>>>>
>>>> My great grandmother: *Emma ENOS* born in California 12 July 1880; 
>>>> died 30 Sep 1957 in Santa Clara, but was brought back to be buried at St. 
>>>> Joseph's in San Pablo, Contra Costa. I believe her parents were *John 
>>>> ENOS (VARGAS)* born abt.1841; immigrated either in 1860 or 1868, lived 
>>>> in Concord, Contra Costa County and is a farmer; and a woman named *Emma 
>>>> VARGAS*. They were married about 1870.
>>>>
>>>> From my great grandmother Emma's obit, I was able to get the names of 
>>>> her siblings, and they are present with this couple in several census 
>>>> reports. Emma's siblings include:
>>>> *Joseph* b. abt. 1873
>>>> *Mary L. (DUTRA)* b. abt. 1874 d. 1957? of Concord
>>>> *Annie* b. abt. 1882
>>>> *Theresa (NUNES)* b. abt. 1884 of Concord
>>>> *Manuel* b. abt. 1885
>>>> *Frank* b. abt. 1887 of Concord
>>>> *Angie (MESQUITA)* b. abt. 1889 d. 1972
>>>> *Aggie; nickname for Agnes (BENZ)* b. abt. 1892
>>>> *Evelyn (MCDERMOTT)* b. abt. 1897 d.1966
>>>>
>>>> In a census report, John and 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA: Third Party Transfers (from AncestryDNA or 23 and Me)

[Sami]

Thank you for this information. I just did my transfer and joined the 
Azores group project. No problems- all went smoothly! 

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 10:11:35 AM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes)
>
> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) can now accept transfers from AncestryDNA or 
> 23andMe. So if you've been waiting to transfer, or waiting for the issue to 
> be resolved so you can transfer, it can now happen!!
>
> A bunch of people will be doing this so if the system starts to hiccup, 
> get indigestion, and finally acid reflux, it's probably overwhelmed with 
> people uploading and you'll have to try again later. At this very moment 
> (8:00 a.m PST) it should be OK.
>
> Let the transfers begin!!
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faria from the Azores

[Sami]

Does anyone have any of these people in their family trees please? I keep 
hitting brick walls with each one of these I try to trace. The main ones 
are Manuel P. Faria, John Enos/Enes Vargas (or sometimes shown as John V. 
Enos), and John's wife Emma. Does anyone know if "Emma" is a nickname for 
Philomena/Filomena? Thanks! 


On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:57:11 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Repost for Sami, saudade1264 at gmail.com
>
> My grandfather was Portuguese, and his father was from the Azores. My 
> great-grandmother's family as well was from the Azores. I have been trying 
> to find out specifically which Azores island they are from. I am hoping 
> someone may recognize a name or two from the information I have gathered 
> these past few years. 
>
> Here's what I have...
>
> My maternal grandfather: *Lawrence Daniel FARIA*, born 5 June 1907 in 
> Martinez/Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA; died 18 Nov 1961 in San Pablo. I 
> have his WWII draft card and headstone application.
>
> My great grandfather: *Manuel P. (Pereira?) FARIA* born in the Azores 
> 1877. His WWI draft card says January. A census says Feb. His year of 
> immigration is either 1894 or 1895. The earliest census I have from 1900 
> has him newly married and living in Port Costa. From 1910 until 1930, they 
> lived in Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA. In the 1930 census, he isn't 
> listed, but someone named "John S." is, and is the same age Manuel would 
> be. His occupation was as a laborer in an oil refinery (Standard Oil?) I 
> can find no record of him immigrating, and no death record. It's like he 
> just disappeared.
>
> My great grandmother: *Emma ENOS* born in California 12 July 1880; died 
> 30 Sep 1957 in Santa Clara, but was brought back to be buried at St. 
> Joseph's in San Pablo, Contra Costa. I believe her parents were *John 
> ENOS (VARGAS)* born abt.1841; immigrated either in 1860 or 1868, lived in 
> Concord, Contra Costa County and is a farmer; and a woman named *Emma 
> VARGAS*. They were married about 1870.
>
> From my great grandmother Emma's obit, I was able to get the names of her 
> siblings, and they are present with this couple in several census reports. 
> Emma's siblings include:
> *Joseph* b. abt. 1873
> *Mary L. (DUTRA)* b. abt. 1874 d. 1957? of Concord
> *Annie* b. abt. 1882
> *Theresa (NUNES)* b. abt. 1884 of Concord
> *Manuel* b. abt. 1885
> *Frank* b. abt. 1887 of Concord
> *Angie (MESQUITA)* b. abt. 1889 d. 1972
> *Aggie; nickname for Agnes (BENZ)* b. abt. 1892
> *Evelyn (MCDERMOTT)* b. abt. 1897 d.1966
>
> In a census report, John and Emma state they had 14 children, 13 who were 
> living- so I don't know where the others are listed. These are all I could 
> find.
>
> My great-grandparents Emma and Manuel had the following children (besides 
> my grandfather Lawrence):
> *Manuel G. (wife TAMBLYN)* b. 1902 d. 1976 in San Pablo
> *Evelyn Mary (KELLY/BLODGETT)* b. 1909 d.1989 in Washington
> *John H.* b. abt. 1914
> *Anthony P.* b. abt. 1914 d. 2004
> *Philomena (DAVIS)* b.1915 d. 1936 in El Cerrito
> *Margaret M. (BETTENCOURT)* b. abt. 1917 
> *Frances Patricia (ELLWANGER)* b. abt.1919 d. 1987 in Santa Clara
> *Rose Ann (ATKINSON)* b. abt.1921 d. 2000 in San Pablo
>
> If anyone knows any of these people or someone who does; knows of any 
> living descendants who keep good records; or anything about any of them- 
> PLEASE contact me! Thank you all so much for any help received!
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel

[Sami]

Thank you both for your reply! 

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 6:20:17 PM UTC-6, Jeremy G. B-C wrote:
>
> The trip from New York to Sao Miguel took 5 days in 1937 (I have notes 
> from an aunt). So you could compare it to that.
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel

[Sami]

Rats! Do you know if a person could leave straight from California though? 
About how long would it have taken to get back home by ship?

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:47:03 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> The United States has no outbound passenger lists :(
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Travel

[Sami]

If someone were living in Contra Costa Co.,CA and decided to just up and go 
home to the Azores, by what manner would they have left between the years 
of 1930 and 1940? Was there a direct passage from California to the Azores? 
If by ship, is there a database where I could look for the person? 
Thanks! 

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