RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel
John Vasconcelos: Are you related to John Vasconcelos that grew up in Sunnyvale, CA in the early to mid 70’s? I went to school with john and would like to say hello. Thanks! Tony From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vasconcelos Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:00 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel Cindy, I may have a lead for you. My 4G grandparents, Ursula Pimentel born Santa Cruz Flores, married to Pedro de Freitas, born Mosteiro, Flores, married 17 June 1734 in Santa Cruz Flores. Ursula died 08 Aug 1775, Caldeira, Flores. They had a lot of Freitas de Pimentel descendants (who usually went by Pimentel), many of whom I grew up with in the Fresno California area. One of their descendants is my 5th cousin Dr. David Pimentel, Professor emeritus of Cornell University who several years ago ran (and lost) on the outsider ticket for some high office in the Sierra Club. He, I believe was born in the New Bedford area. Unfortunately, I haven't ever met him. Regards, John Vasconcelos On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Cindy D - Searching Sylvia-Pimentel-Martin kcci...@aol.com wrote: Although I have not been able to find acutal documentation over there to prove it, my Pimentel side is from Flores, so pour me a glass and count me in!!! I know zero about Flores other than my mother has told me that her grandmother said it has a lot of flowers. Got a lucky break and found a marriage record in New Bedfordand it confirmed family lore that my great-grandma Maggie Pimentel (Margarida Ursela Pimentel) was indeed, from Flores. Also got her parents' names on that record. Double Score. I thought my great-grandfather was Sylvia or Silva, but no, marriage record has Da Silvawhich explains why I couldn't find much of anything for the past 3 years. Doh! Made a giant pot of cacciola and had the family in to celebrate! My family tree was written by first generation American Sylvias and a big mistake was made in hand copying (before copy machines) and listed Frank Pimentel and Annie Martin as Maggie's parents which did not agree with that New Bedford marriage record at all so it's been sitting on the back-burner for at least a year. After digging through some family papers and carefully reading all the little pencil notes on the original note paper, turns out, Frank is Maggie's brother, not father. So now it all makes sense and I can put everyone where they belong. Sheesh! Cindy D Sylvia, Pimentel, and new and improved, Da Silva, De Jesus and a Martin in-law On Jun 6, 11:32�pm, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: I've become envious of the Ponta Garca Gang and the Cabral Travassos Country Club and their good fortune in finding cousins. �So I hereby establish the Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society. �We Flores people are not so fortunate as our more easterly cousins. Flores was subject to the plunderings of Pirates and Privateers which took a toll on our ancestors and their institutions. According to historical accounts, Flores was attacked by Privateers in the mid 1600's who burned every church on the Island. As a result most records before the late 1600's were lost. Even the records on neighboring Corvo go back earlier, to the early 1600's, as I recall. The earliest documented marriage that I have discovered among my ancestors was that of Manoel Pimentel to Isabel de Freitas, Nov 26, 1692, Santa Cruz, Flores who were my 4G Grandparents (He had been married previously, in the 1680's as I recall). His parents were Domingos Nunes and Marianna Fraga, date and place of birth unknown although it was probably Santa Cruz, Flores. I would venture a guess that Marianna was related to Diogo das Chagas, whose mother was also a Fraga. Her parents were Domingos Fernandez and Catarina de Freitas. How about it, any cousins out there with these same ancestors? John Vasconcelos -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico
Nancy, I don't believe there to be any connection to Candelaria but I will ask my father if he recalls ever hearing anything about that. He's going back there this summer to visit. He'll turn 80 this October but his genealogy brain still works really well. J Thanks! Tony From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:53 AM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico Hi Tony, My ancestors are from Candelaria and Sao Mateus with just a couple from Bandeiras, Feitera and Lages. When I was in Pico looking for my Cardosa family, I was told by a Cardoso from there that there were 3 major branches of Cardoso on Pico. I've listed mine just in case there could be a connection to you or others.. Francisco Silva.10-23-1765.Candelaria Antonio Furtado Cardoso10-30-1809Candelaria Manuel Furtado Cardoso3-6-1836...Candelaria Manuel Furtado Cardoso...9-18-1874Candelaria Jose Furtado Silva9-14-1833Candelaria Happy searching! Nancy Jean _ From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:36:23 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico To: Azores@googlegroups.com Repost for Tony - tony at rossettas dot com Nancy Jean, Am new to the site, I am from Ribeiras Pico and have Cardoso and Silva in my lines. What area(s) of Pico are you searching for? Regards, Tony -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico
Eric, I am super swamped at work at the moment but I will try and look up these names a bit later at home. Thanks for your email! Tony From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:39 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico Tony, I have Cardoso ancestors from Ribeiras , Pico. See below Eric Edgar Descendants of Simao Cardoso Generation No. 1 1. SIMAO1 CARDOSO was born Abt. 1717 in Pico. He married MARIA DE ABREU Bef. 1737. She was born Abt. 1717 in Pico. Child of SIMAO CARDOSO and MARIA DE ABREU is: 2.i.MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA, b. Abt. 1737, Ribeiras, Pico, Azores. Generation No. 2 2. MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA (SIMAO1 CARDOSO) was born Abt. 1737 in Ribeiras, Pico, Azores. He married ISABEL FRANCISCA DO ROSARIO PEREIRA 30 Oct 1757 in Lajes do Pico, Azores, daughter of ANTONIO MELO and AGUEDA ANTONIO. She was born Abt. 1747 in Lajes do Pico, Azores. Child of MANUEL PEREIRA and ISABEL PEREIRA is: 3.i.MANUEL3 CARDOSO, b. Abt. 1770, Ribeiras, Pico, Azores; d. 12 Jan 1830, Ribeiras, Pico, Azores. Generation No. 3 3. MANUEL3 CARDOSO (MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA, SIMAO1 CARDOSO) was born Abt. 1770 in Ribeiras, Pico, Azores, and died 12 Jan 1830 in Ribeiras, Pico, Azores. He married JOSEFA MARIANA 19 Jan 1794 in Ribeiras, Lajes do Pico, Azores, daughter of FRANCISCO CARDOSO and ISABEL PEREIRA. She was born 26 Jul 1774 in Ribeiras, Pico, Azores, and died 04 Feb 1863 in Ribeiras, Pico, Azores. Child of MANUEL CARDOSO and JOSEFA MARIANA is: 4.i.JOSEFA4 MARIANA, b. 01 May 1803, Lajes do Pico, Azores; d. 30 Oct 1886, Pico, Azores. Generation No. 4 4. JOSEFA4 MARIANA (MANUEL3 CARDOSO, MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA, SIMAO1 CARDOSO) was born 01 May 1803 in Lajes do Pico, Azores, and died 30 Oct 1886 in Pico, Azores. She married JOSE FRANCISCO SOARES 29 Sep 1833 in Ribeiras, Pico do Lajes, Azores, son of JOSE SOARES and ISABEL PEREIRA. He was born 04 Mar 1804 in Lajes do Pico, Azores, and died 07 Sep 1894 in Pico, Azores. Children of JOSEFA MARIANA and JOSE SOARES are: i.MANUEL5, b. 1835, Ribeiras, Pico, Azores; d. 1835. ii.MANUEL CARDOSO, b. 10 Apr 1836; d. 02 Sep 1899; m. ANA JOSEFA C.JESUS; b. 26 Jul 1844. iii.MARIA JOSEFA, b. 1840; d. 25 May 1912, Alameda County, California. 5. iv.ISABELLE JOSEFA SOARES, b. 15 Mar 1840, Pico, Azores; d. 26 Jun 1924, Oakland, Alameda County, California. v.JOSEFA MARIANA, b. 1845; d. 1874. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Tony, My ancestors are from Candelaria and Sao Mateus with just a couple from Bandeiras, Feitera and Lages. When I was in Pico looking for my Cardosa family, I was told by a Cardoso from there that there were 3 major branches of Cardoso on Pico. I've listed mine just in case there could be a connection to you or others.. Francisco Silva.10-23-1765.Candelaria Antonio Furtado Cardoso10-30-1809Candelaria Manuel Furtado Cardoso3-6-1836...Candelaria Manuel Furtado Cardoso...9-18-1874Candelaria Jose Furtado Silva9-14-1833Candelaria Happy searching! Nancy Jean _ From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:36:23 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico To: Azores@googlegroups.com Repost for Tony - tony at rossettas dot com Nancy Jean, Am new to the site, I am from Ribeiras Pico and have Cardoso and Silva in my lines. What area(s) of Pico are you searching for? Regards, Tony -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico
Gayle, Thanks! What is the NEPS website? Thanks again. Regards, Tony From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gayle Machado Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:37 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico Tony, The NEPS website shows the marriage date of 17 Sep 1710 in Ribeiras. Maria Abreu died 30 April 1750. Also, NEPS shows children Agueda b 1719, Francisco b 1720 and Antonio b 1724. You may already know this, but I didn't see it on your descendants summary. I have seen these two names before. But, not on my line. I'll try to look for them over the weekend on some of the pedigree charts that I have for other family and friends. Gayle -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
