Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[danandmaria]

Jesse, it should be the page number (folha) . 




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From: "Rosemarie Capodicci"  
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Jesse, I got that but as you go throught the alphabet the numbers are not 
straight sequential but jump from 100 to 110 and then 114 etc. I thought 
maybe they might be the pages. There are no numbers on the individuala 
baptisms so I can't figure out what they could be other than page numbers!! 
Good luck on trying to figure it out. If you do, let us on the list know. I 
have someone that is searching in Lisbon and it would help to know what the 
numbers mean. 

Thanaks, Rosemarie 

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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go 
from here? 


Thank you for the reply Rosemarie. Unfortunately, I believe the numbers 
must mean something else. I tried this on a few different names, as the 
book's pages ARE numbered, but this doesn't work. I guess it makes sense 
though. The names are semi-alphabetically listed it looks like, and the 
numbers increase with them. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Jesse, I got that but as you go throught the alphabet the numbers are not 
straight sequential but jump from 100 to 110 and then 114 etc. I thought 
maybe they might be the pages. There are no numbers on the individuala 
baptisms so I can't figure out what they could be other than page numbers!! 
Good luck on trying to figure it out. If you do, let us on the list know. I 
have someone that is searching in Lisbon and it would help to know what the 
numbers mean.


Thanaks, Rosemarie

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go 
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Thank you for the reply Rosemarie. Unfortunately, I believe the numbers
must mean something else. I tried this on a few different names, as the
book's pages ARE numbered, but this doesn't work. I guess it makes sense
though. The names are semi-alphabetically listed it looks like, and the
numbers increase with them.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Jesse Pacheco]

Thank you for the reply Rosemarie. Unfortunately, I believe the numbers 
must mean something else. I tried this on a few different names, as the 
book's pages ARE numbered, but this doesn't work. I guess it makes sense 
though. The names are semi-alphabetically listed it looks like, and the 
numbers increase with them.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Jesse, since I couldn't find a document number on any of the baptisms I would 
venture to say that it is the page number. My computer is running so slow 
tonight that I couldn't keep checking back and forth between the index and the 
pages. If yours is running faster try to pick a name and go to the number of 
the page that is given next to the name in the index. 

Rosemarie 

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  From: Jesse Pacheco 
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  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:31 PM
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from here?


  I mentioned the index in my post a few hours ago... looks like it might not 
be what I initially thought.

  The baptismo book begins with a list of names, presumably those in the book, 
followed by numbers. The numbers repeat but also steadily increase.

  
http://digitarq.dgarq.gov.pt/ODdisplay.aspx?DigitalObjectID=154542&FileID=_3076838

  I thought it was an index but this doesn't appear to be the case. Could 
anyone tell me what this list means and how, if possible, to utilize it?

  On 7/1/2010 5:32 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: 
Hello Jesse,
 
You might give the site below a try.
  
http://etombo.com/
 
I only had a quick look at it, but it does look promissing!
 
Let us know how you fare.
 
Hermano




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Jesse Pacheco]

I mentioned the index in my post a few hours ago... looks like it might 
not be what I initially thought.


The baptismo book begins with a list of names, presumably those in the 
book, followed by numbers. The numbers repeat but also steadily increase.


http://digitarq.dgarq.gov.pt/ODdisplay.aspx?DigitalObjectID=154542&FileID=_3076838 



I thought it was an index but this doesn't appear to be the case. Could 
anyone tell me what this list means and how, if possible, to utilize it?


On 7/1/2010 5:32 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

Hello Jesse,

You might give the site below a try.

http://etombo.com/

I only had a quick look at it, but it does look promissing!

Let us know how you fare.

Hermano


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Jesse Pacheco]

He was married to a Joanna Francisca from Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada. 
Their daughter Marianna was born in 1766 in Rosario.


On 7/1/2010 7:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

Jesse,
Do you know to whom he was married to?

Hermano





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Hermano C. Pires]

Jesse,

Do you know to whom he was married to?

 

Hermano
 


Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:04:13 -0400
From: pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from 
here?

Thank you very much Hermano. This website is great. Lucky for me the Lisboa 
records seem to be some of the first put online. 

I'm not sure if I have quite enough information yet to trace this line (I need 
to find Custodio's casamento; hopefully it's in Rosario and not somewhere in P 
Delgada) but I'm taking a look through the Baptismo book for the 1740s... I 
think the continental people had the right idea; there's an index at the 
beginning! What a dream!

On 7/1/2010 5:32 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: 


Hello Jesse,
 
You might give the site below a try.
  
http://etombo.com/
 
I only had a quick look at it, but it does look promissing!
 
Let us know how you fare.
 
Hermano

 
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:32:40 -0400
> From: pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from 
> here?
> 
> Well, it finally happened; I've finally discovered an ancestor who was 
> not only not from Sao Miguel, but not from the Azores at all.
> 
> My Custodio Ferreira was born in the early to mid 1700s and is from Sao 
> Sebastio, Lisboa, Portugal. I was wondering if anyone else has had 
> similar findings and was looking for some guidance on how to continue to 
> trace this line. Will I only find vital records, or are there passenger 
> lists as well to show his voyage to the island?
> 
> and one quick question; is it typical that the birth records around this 
> time period (1700s) no longer list grandparents?
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Jesse Pacheco]

Thank you very much Hermano. This website is great. Lucky for me the 
Lisboa records seem to be some of the first put online.


I'm not sure if I have quite enough information yet to trace this line 
(I need to find Custodio's casamento; hopefully it's in Rosario and not 
somewhere in P Delgada) but I'm taking a look through the Baptismo book 
for the 1740s... I think the continental people had the right idea; 
there's an index at the beginning! What a dream!


On 7/1/2010 5:32 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

Hello Jesse,

You might give the site below a try.

http://etombo.com/

I only had a quick look at it, but it does look promissing!

Let us know how you fare.

Hermano


> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:32:40 -0400
> From: pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to 
go from here?

>
> Well, it finally happened; I've finally discovered an ancestor who was
> not only not from Sao Miguel, but not from the Azores at all.
>
> My Custodio Ferreira was born in the early to mid 1700s and is from Sao
> Sebastio, Lisboa, Portugal. I was wondering if anyone else has had
> similar findings and was looking for some guidance on how to 
continue to

> trace this line. Will I only find vital records, or are there passenger
> lists as well to show his voyage to the island?
>
> and one quick question; is it typical that the birth records around 
this

> time period (1700s) no longer list grandparents?
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Hermano C. Pires]

Hello Jesse,

 

You might give the site below a try.

  

http://etombo.com/

 

I only had a quick look at it, but it does look promissing!

 

Let us know how you fare.

 

Hermano


 
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:32:40 -0400
> From: pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from 
> here?
> 
> Well, it finally happened; I've finally discovered an ancestor who was 
> not only not from Sao Miguel, but not from the Azores at all.
> 
> My Custodio Ferreira was born in the early to mid 1700s and is from Sao 
> Sebastio, Lisboa, Portugal. I was wondering if anyone else has had 
> similar findings and was looking for some guidance on how to continue to 
> trace this line. Will I only find vital records, or are there passenger 
> lists as well to show his voyage to the island?
> 
> and one quick question; is it typical that the birth records around this 
> time period (1700s) no longer list grandparents?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Jesse,

You can order the film for S.Sebastao in Lisbon and keep on looking.  You
can see if his line is listed in the Rodrigo Rodrigues book.  I believe you
will only find vital records, but if you find out otherwise, let the list
know.

Yes, grandparents names fall off by the 1700s.  Usually they don't appear
much before the mid-1800s, so if you were seeing them in the early 1800s,
you were really, really lucky.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[Jesse Pacheco]

Well, it finally happened; I've finally discovered an ancestor who was 
not only not from Sao Miguel, but not from the Azores at all.


My Custodio Ferreira was born in the early to mid 1700s and is from Sao 
Sebastio, Lisboa, Portugal. I was wondering if anyone else has had 
similar findings and was looking for some guidance on how to continue to 
trace this line. Will I only find vital records, or are there passenger 
lists as well to show his voyage to the island?


and one quick question; is it typical that the birth records around this 
time period (1700s) no longer list grandparents?


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