Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pimentel, B Jan 2 1813, Ribeira Do Barqueiro Flores
Mary, Here is the Lomba obito for, Maria da Trindae, the wife of Jose Pimentel Queiro http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1876-1890/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1876-1890_item1/P80.html This may help to get a positive identification on your mystery man by her parents. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler wrote: > Hi friends - I found an article about Jose Pimentel on another board, but > it may be a clue to something I've been trying to sort out. I have a > mysterious "Sebastiao Jose Queiro Pimentel" (b ~1813, d 1892 Lomba, Flores) > in my tree, but have not found his birth or many others with the name > Quiero. I do know he died 1892 in Lomba, I have that Obito. Now I'm > wondering if he is somehow related to a Pimentel from Ribeira Do Bar > *queiro*, and that how Queiro became part of his name? Just a thought. > I had not previously searched the Frequesia of Santa Cruz believing my > Sebastiao came from the southern part of the island. > > So the article lead me to Jose Pimentel, born 1813 in Ribeira Do > Barqueiro, Flores, and I "think" I've found his baptismo. Could someone > help me with the translation - it's one of those "hard to read" ones > (ugh). I'm not even sure I am in the right year on this one... > > It's the 4th one down on the left page: > > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P123.html > > I see: > > Jose, son of Jose Manuel Pimentel ? and Maria ? > > (are they from this frequesia or somewhere else?) > > Paternos Antonio Jose Pimentel B?? and Maria ? Furtado? > > Maternos ??? and Maria Freitas? > > Padrinho Jose ?? and his wife Antonia Jose e Maria ?? > > Born..at this point I see a lot of numbers written out but can't make them > out, so I'm not sure what it is saying. > > > Thanks for any help you have time to give. > > > Mary > > > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pimentel, B Jan 2 1813, Ribeira Do Barqueiro Flores
This seems the most likely match for the Sebastiao and Maria da Trindade in the obito. Lomba José Sebastião Pimentel [26 anos, f.º de Sebastião José Pimentel e de Maria da Trindade do Coração de Jesus] c. 1886.08.19 c. Maria Gonçalves de Freitas [18 anos, f.ª de João António Gonçalves e de Isabel da Trindade do Coração de Jesus]. Eric Edgar On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 12:19 PM, luiznoia . wrote: > Mary, > > I have found researching Flores over the last twenty years that the > surnames are not always recorded the same way on all documents. The alcunha > part ( Queiro, Batacao, etc) is often left off some records. > > The parents are sometimes recorded wrong also. Not surprising 70 or 80 > years later , often in a a different town. > > I looked at the obit record you referenced. > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1891-1900/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1891-1900_item1/P21.html > > 26 Sep 1892 Lomba > > Sebastiao Pimentel 79 yrs > > widower of Maria da Trindade > > legitimate son of Jose Pimentel Queiro and Sebastiana de Jesus > > > Looking through the Flores marriage book, I can not find any marriage for > those parents or for Sebastiao Pimentel and Maria da Trindade. > > The place they reference is Ribeira dos Barqueiros, part of the parish of > the town of Santa Cruz > > > > Eric Edgar > > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler > wrote: > >> Hi friends - I found an article about Jose Pimentel on another board, but >> it may be a clue to something I've been trying to sort out. I have a >> mysterious "Sebastiao Jose Queiro Pimentel" (b ~1813, d 1892 Lomba, Flores) >> in my tree, but have not found his birth or many others with the name >> Quiero. I do know he died 1892 in Lomba, I have that Obito. Now I'm >> wondering if he is somehow related to a Pimentel from Ribeira Do Bar >> *queiro*, and that how Queiro became part of his name? Just a thought. >> I had not previously searched the Frequesia of Santa Cruz believing my >> Sebastiao came from the southern part of the island. >> >> So the article lead me to Jose Pimentel, born 1813 in Ribeira Do >> Barqueiro, Flores, and I "think" I've found his baptismo. Could someone >> help me with the translation - it's one of those "hard to read" ones >> (ugh). I'm not even sure I am in the right year on this one... >> >> It's the 4th one down on the left page: >> >> >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P123.html >> >> I see: >> >> Jose, son of Jose Manuel Pimentel ? and Maria ? >> >> (are they from this frequesia or somewhere else?) >> >> Paternos Antonio Jose Pimentel B?? and Maria ? Furtado? >> >> Maternos ??? and Maria Freitas? >> >> Padrinho Jose ?? and his wife Antonia Jose e Maria ?? >> >> Born..at this point I see a lot of numbers written out but can't make >> them out, so I'm not sure what it is saying. >> >> >> Thanks for any help you have time to give. >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pimentel, B Jan 2 1813, Ribeira Do Barqueiro Flores
Hi Eric. I really appreciate the help you've given me several times over the years. Yeah, Sebastiao is my mystery-man, I just can't seem to find any certainty in my Pimentel line beyond him. I've looked at the marriage book (kindle version) till I'm cross eyed, but just can't find him or his parents. If he was 79(ish) when he died, that would put his birth around 1813, so now I'm going to start looking at the Santa Cruz baptismos and see if I find anything around that time, +/- 10 years. Those particular records are pretty hard to read, but who knows...maybe I'll find some clues. Wish me luck! Thanks again, Mary Pimentel-Wheeler Sent from my iPad > On Apr 17, 2016, at 12:19 PM, luiznoia . wrote: > > Mary, > > I have found researching Flores over the last twenty years that the surnames > are not always recorded the same way on all documents. The alcunha part ( > Queiro, Batacao, etc) is often left off some records. > > The parents are sometimes recorded wrong also. Not surprising 70 or 80 years > later , often in a a different town. > > I looked at the obit record you referenced. > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1891-1900/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1891-1900_item1/P21.html > > 26 Sep 1892 Lomba > > Sebastiao Pimentel 79 yrs > > widower of Maria da Trindade > > legitimate son of Jose Pimentel Queiro and Sebastiana de Jesus > > > Looking through the Flores marriage book, I can not find any marriage for > those parents or for Sebastiao Pimentel and Maria da Trindade. > > The place they reference is Ribeira dos Barqueiros, part of the parish of the > town of Santa Cruz > > > > Eric Edgar > > > >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler >> wrote: >> Hi friends - I found an article about Jose Pimentel on another board, but it >> may be a clue to something I've been trying to sort out. I have a >> mysterious "Sebastiao Jose Queiro Pimentel" (b ~1813, d 1892 Lomba, Flores) >> in my tree, but have not found his birth or many others with the name >> Quiero. I do know he died 1892 in Lomba, I have that Obito. Now I'm >> wondering if he is somehow related to a Pimentel from Ribeira Do Barqueiro, >> and that how Queiro became part of his name? Just a thought. I had not >> previously searched the Frequesia of Santa Cruz believing my Sebastiao came >> from the southern part of the island. >> >> So the article lead me to Jose Pimentel, born 1813 in Ribeira Do Barqueiro, >> Flores, and I "think" I've found his baptismo. Could someone help me with >> the translation - it's one of those "hard to read" ones (ugh). I'm not even >> sure I am in the right year on this one... >> >> It's the 4th one down on the left page: >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P123.html >> >> >> I see: >> Jose, son of Jose Manuel Pimentel ? and Maria ? >> >> (are they from this frequesia or somewhere else?) >> >> Paternos Antonio Jose Pimentel B?? and Maria ? Furtado? >> >> Maternos ??? and Maria Freitas? >> >> Padrinho Jose ?? and his wife Antonia Jose e Maria ?? >> >> Born..at this point I see a lot of numbers written out but can't make them >> out, so I'm not sure what it is saying. >> >> >> >> Thanks for any help you have time to give. >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/BWKB_bp4JJU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pimentel, B Jan 2 1813, Ribeira Do Barqueiro Flores
Mary, I have found researching Flores over the last twenty years that the surnames are not always recorded the same way on all documents. The alcunha part ( Queiro, Batacao, etc) is often left off some records. The parents are sometimes recorded wrong also. Not surprising 70 or 80 years later , often in a a different town. I looked at the obit record you referenced. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1891-1900/FLR-LF-LOMBA-O-1891-1900_item1/P21.html 26 Sep 1892 Lomba Sebastiao Pimentel 79 yrs widower of Maria da Trindade legitimate son of Jose Pimentel Queiro and Sebastiana de Jesus Looking through the Flores marriage book, I can not find any marriage for those parents or for Sebastiao Pimentel and Maria da Trindade. The place they reference is Ribeira dos Barqueiros, part of the parish of the town of Santa Cruz Eric Edgar On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler wrote: > Hi friends - I found an article about Jose Pimentel on another board, but > it may be a clue to something I've been trying to sort out. I have a > mysterious "Sebastiao Jose Queiro Pimentel" (b ~1813, d 1892 Lomba, Flores) > in my tree, but have not found his birth or many others with the name > Quiero. I do know he died 1892 in Lomba, I have that Obito. Now I'm > wondering if he is somehow related to a Pimentel from Ribeira Do Bar > *queiro*, and that how Queiro became part of his name? Just a thought. > I had not previously searched the Frequesia of Santa Cruz believing my > Sebastiao came from the southern part of the island. > > So the article lead me to Jose Pimentel, born 1813 in Ribeira Do > Barqueiro, Flores, and I "think" I've found his baptismo. Could someone > help me with the translation - it's one of those "hard to read" ones > (ugh). I'm not even sure I am in the right year on this one... > > It's the 4th one down on the left page: > > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P123.html > > I see: > > Jose, son of Jose Manuel Pimentel ? and Maria ? > > (are they from this frequesia or somewhere else?) > > Paternos Antonio Jose Pimentel B?? and Maria ? Furtado? > > Maternos ??? and Maria Freitas? > > Padrinho Jose ?? and his wife Antonia Jose e Maria ?? > > Born..at this point I see a lot of numbers written out but can't make them > out, so I'm not sure what it is saying. > > > Thanks for any help you have time to give. > > > Mary > > > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pimentel, B Jan 2 1813, Ribeira Do Barqueiro Flores
Hi friends - I found an article about Jose Pimentel on another board, but it may be a clue to something I've been trying to sort out. I have a mysterious "Sebastiao Jose Queiro Pimentel" (b ~1813, d 1892 Lomba, Flores) in my tree, but have not found his birth or many others with the name Quiero. I do know he died 1892 in Lomba, I have that Obito. Now I'm wondering if he is somehow related to a Pimentel from Ribeira Do Bar*queiro*, and that how Queiro became part of his name? Just a thought. I had not previously searched the Frequesia of Santa Cruz believing my Sebastiao came from the southern part of the island. So the article lead me to Jose Pimentel, born 1813 in Ribeira Do Barqueiro, Flores, and I "think" I've found his baptismo. Could someone help me with the translation - it's one of those "hard to read" ones (ugh). I'm not even sure I am in the right year on this one... It's the 4th one down on the left page: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P123.html I see: Jose, son of Jose Manuel Pimentel ? and Maria ? (are they from this frequesia or somewhere else?) Paternos Antonio Jose Pimentel B?? and Maria ? Furtado? Maternos ??? and Maria Freitas? Padrinho Jose ?? and his wife Antonia Jose e Maria ?? Born..at this point I see a lot of numbers written out but can't make them out, so I'm not sure what it is saying. Thanks for any help you have time to give. Mary -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
