Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family
In a message dated 11/11/2009 3:37:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, jay_fr...@applimetrix.com writes: Please forgive me for hijacking this thread… I’ve just “returned to the living” after getting out of bed for the first time since last Friday with the dreaded H1N1. This message was the first thing that I saw when opening up email. It’s also the first time I’ve seen mention of Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas being used for research since it became available at the end of the summer. I’ve not been fortunate enough to be in a position to purchase the set. Is there any similar info (to what is below for the Madruga family) for the Fraga family? My Fraga’s are from Corvo, and I’ve seen many that are from Flores as well. I’ve long suspected a common link somewhere way down the line, and that Fraga’s on both islands share a common ancestor way back. I was curious if anyone had the volumes and could take a peek. It would be greatly appreciated! Jay Fraga Massachusetts There are 4 separate Fraga lines in Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, Flores, Corvo, Jorge Forjaz and António Ornelas Mendes, Dislivro-Histórica, Lisbon: 2009. : António de Fraga, married to Isabel Rodrigues, was a native of Braga. He went to Flores between 1508-1510 in the colonization organized by Pedro da Fonseca. In the same company went his brother Pedro de Fraga, married to Margarida Rodrigues and her brothers Miguel and Álvaro Rodrigues. Francisco de Fraga lived in Flores and was married to Lucrécia Privado. José de Fraga and his wife Isabel de Freitas lived in Fajã Grande, Flores, circa 1750. Isabel de Fraga was born about 1690 and died in Matriz-Horta on 6 Sep 1762; She married Manuel Luís who was born in Flamengos and died in Matriz on 9 Oct 1757. John Miranda Raposo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family
John, thank you VERY much for taking the time to look up that information for me! It is very much appreciated! Best wishes and thanks, Jay Fraga _ From: marra...@cs.com [mailto:marra...@cs.com] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:33 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family In a message dated 11/11/2009 3:37:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, jay_fr...@applimetrix.com writes: Please forgive me for hijacking this thread… I’ve just “returned to the living” after getting out of bed for the first time since last Friday with the dreaded H1N1. This message was the first thing that I saw when opening up email. It’s also the first time I’ve seen mention of Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas being used for research since it became available at the end of the summer. I’ve not been fortunate enough to be in a position to purchase the set. Is there any similar info (to what is below for the Madruga family) for the Fraga family? My Fraga’s are from Corvo, and I’ve seen many that are from Flores as well. I’ve long suspected a common link somewhere way down the line, and that Fraga’s on both islands share a common ancestor way back. I was curious if anyone had the volumes and could take a peek. It would be greatly appreciated! Jay Fraga Massachusetts There are 4 separate Fraga lines in Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, Flores, Corvo, Jorge Forjaz and António Ornelas Mendes, Dislivro-Histórica, Lisbon: 2009. : António de Fraga, married to Isabel Rodrigues, was a native of Braga. He went to Flores between 1508-1510 in the colonization organized by Pedro da Fonseca. In the same company went his brother Pedro de Fraga, married to Margarida Rodrigues and her brothers Miguel and Álvaro Rodrigues. Francisco de Fraga lived in Flores and was married to Lucrécia Privado. José de Fraga and his wife Isabel de Freitas lived in Fajã Grande, Flores, circa 1750. Isabel de Fraga was born about 1690 and died in Matriz-Horta on 6 Sep 1762; She married Manuel Luís who was born in Flamengos and died in Matriz on 9 Oct 1757. John Miranda Raposo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family
I also have Madruga from Pico in my direct line. I will have to check it out tonight and let you know who so that we can see if we connect. Julzz From: Vivian Christy vchris1...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 10:06:43 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family Hello Maggie, I was told my Becky Madruga that all the Madruga's are related. I have relatives here in San Diego but have not yet done that line. I know Becky has done her line back to 1700's. Manoel Goularte Gracia Madruga born about 1700 in Sao Matheus, Pico, Acores is Generation 1. From there it goes to Generation 7 and lots of names. I can contact Becky Madruga and give her your email address if you would like more information on that line. Let me know. Vivian --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Maggie Sutton maggie.sut...@charter.net wrote: From: Maggie Sutton maggie.sut...@charter.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 6:44 PM Any relation to Manuel F. Madruga, b. Feb 15, 1910 who died in Modesto, CA in 1991? He married Mary Affonso Dias b. Sept 3, 1920 in NIcasio, CA ( That is my Affonso line from Riberia Seca,Sao Jorge) His daughter Eleanor Madruga, b Nov 20, 1945, died in California also in 1999... Maggie Homen Sutton - Original Message - From: Vivian Christy To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Addition to Azores GenWeb Site Hi Pat, I have not been active lately on the Azores Group but when I saw your message about Silveria a town in Pico I wanted to let you know that I know a Becky Madruga whos relatives are from that town and we are suppose to be related to her. We have not found the exact connection because I have not completed that part of my genealogy yet. We have the same relative name but I have not yet confirmed it is the same as her relative. Anyway she has lots of relatives from that town and you could also be related to her. If you want to I could ask her if she knows your Grandmother if you let me know her name and approx age. A lot of my relatives come from Lajes do Pico. We have Machado, Nunes, Madruga, and many other names from there. Let me know if you would like to persue this line. My email address is vchris1...@yahoo.com Thank you, Vivian (Silva) Christy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family
In a message dated 11/11/2009 1:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, vchris1...@yahoo.com writes: Hello Maggie, I was told my Becky Madruga that all the Madruga's are related. I have relatives here in San Diego but have not yet done that line. I know Becky has done her line back to 1700's. Manoel Goularte Gracia Madruga born about 1700 in Sao Matheus, Pico, Acores is Generation 1. From there it goes to Generation 7 and lots of names. I can contact Becky Madruga and give her your email address if you would like more information on that line. Let me know. Vivian All of the Madrugas descend from André Gonçalves Madruga, the elder, born in Faial (see Maldonado, Fénix Angrence, Parte Genealógica, p.201) and died in Angra (Sé) on 15-11-1558 (Idem.) Frutuoso says he lived between S. Mateus and Negrito. He married Isabel Dias Rodovalho, daughter of Diogo Vaz Rodovalho, who lived in Viana do Alentejo and died between 1512 and 1523 and Maria Esteves Cansado, who died between 1523 and 1527. See also Genealogias da Ilha Terceira: (Rodovalho: §1 Nº5, (Forjaz and Mendes, Dislivro-Histórica, Lisbon: 2007) The above is from Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, Flores, Corvo, Jorge Forjaz and António Ornelas Mendes, Dislivro-Histórica, Lisbon: 2009. I hope this helps. John Miranda Raposo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family
Hi John, Thank you for that information. I did not know that and don't think my friend Becky did either. I'll let her know. I wish all my relatives had information back that far. Thanks again. Vivian (Silva) Christy --- On Wed, 11/11/09, marra...@cs.com marra...@cs.com wrote: From: marra...@cs.com marra...@cs.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:23 PM In a message dated 11/11/2009 1:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, vchris1...@yahoo.com writes: Hello Maggie, I was told my Becky Madruga that all the Madruga's are related. I have relatives here in San Diego but have not yet done that line. I know Becky has done her line back to 1700's. Manoel Goularte Gracia Madruga born about 1700 in Sao Matheus, Pico, Acores is Generation 1. From there it goes to Generation 7 and lots of names. I can contact Becky Madruga and give her your email address if you would like more information on that line. Let me know. Vivian All of the Madrugas descend from André Gonçalves Madruga, the elder, born in Faial (see Maldonado, Fénix Angrence, Parte Genealógica, p.201) and died in Angra (Sé) on 15-11-1558 (Idem.) Frutuoso says he lived between S. Mateus and Negrito. He married Isabel Dias Rodovalho, daughter of Diogo Vaz Rodovalho, who lived in Viana do Alentejo and died between 1512 and 1523 and Maria Esteves Cansado, who died between 1523 and 1527. See also Genealogias da Ilha Terceira: (Rodovalho: §1 Nº5, (Forjaz and Mendes, Dislivro-Histórica, Lisbon: 2007) The above is from Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, Flores, Corvo, Jorge Forjaz and António Ornelas Mendes, Dislivro-Histórica, Lisbon: 2009. I hope this helps. John Miranda Raposo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madruga family
Any relation to Manuel F. Madruga, b. Feb 15, 1910 who died in Modesto, CA in 1991? He married Mary Affonso Dias b. Sept 3, 1920 in NIcasio, CA ( That is my Affonso line from Riberia Seca,Sao Jorge) His daughter Eleanor Madruga, b Nov 20, 1945, died in California also in 1999... Maggie Homen Sutton - Original Message - From: Vivian Christy To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Addition to Azores GenWeb Site Hi Pat, I have not been active lately on the Azores Group but when I saw your message about Silveria a town in Pico I wanted to let you know that I know a Becky Madruga whos relatives are from that town and we are suppose to be related to her. We have not found the exact connection because I have not completed that part of my genealogy yet. We have the same relative name but I have not yet confirmed it is the same as her relative. Anyway she has lots of relatives from that town and you could also be related to her. If you want to I could ask her if she knows your Grandmother if you let me know her name and approx age. A lot of my relatives come from Lajes do Pico. We have Machado, Nunes, Madruga, and many other names from there. Let me know if you would like to persue this line. My email address is vchris1...@yahoo.com Thank you, Vivian (Silva) Christy --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com wrote: From: Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Addition to Azores GenWeb Site To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:13 PM Well, there you are, Pat. Guess it is a small village then. :) It looks to be beautiful! ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb my Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:47 AM, jan...@clearwire.net wrote: Yes, silveira is small village. Church is same as Lages do Pico. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com wrote: Pat Silveira is not a town that I'm aware of. It might be a small village close by, but it is not on the map I have. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb my Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:42 PM, cnsp...@aol.com wrote: Kathy, Would Silveira, Pico be the same church as Lajes do Pico? I recently found out this is my grandmothers home. Thanks, Pat Anselmo Nostrome -Original Message- From: Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:21 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Addition to Azores GenWeb Site Linda and Rosemarie You're very welcome! Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb my Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ On Nov 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, Linda Norton wrote: Thank you that is very helpful. Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton -Original Message- From: Rosemarie Capodicci [mailto:rcap...@redshift.com] Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Addition to Azores GenWeb Site Wow Kathy, this is just great! I'm printing now and am going to put a copy in the FHC here in Seaside to help me. Thanks so much. Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
