Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-29 Thread John Vasconcelos
*The following was copied from the PFSA web site.*

*John Vasconcelos*

Chartered on August 1, 1880, the Portuguese Society of America (PFSA) is
the result of the Merger of four great societies as of January 1, 2010:

Conselho Supremo da Irmandade do Divino Espirito Santo do Estado da
Califórnia

(Supreme Council of IDES)

Conselho Supremo da Sociedade do Espirito Santo do Estado da Califórnia

(Supreme Council of SES)

Conselho Supremo da União Portuguesa do Estado da Califórnia

(Supreme Council of UPEC)

Conselho Supremo da União Portuguesa Protectora do Estado da Califórnia

(Supreme Council of UPPEC)
The merger resulted in the PFSA now having the largest membership and the
financially strongest Portuguese Fraternal Benefit Society in the Nation.
The PFSA Home Office is located in San Leandro, CA and the Society is
licensed to transact business in California, Nevada and Rhode Island and
has 67 fraternal councils (local subordinate chapters). We are proud of the
dreams and vision of our forefathers and continue to honor their vision by
succeeding and meeting the challenges of the XXI century with dignity and
pride


On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
> was your ancestor in?
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
> what the SESFM stands for.
>
> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-29 Thread Gordon soares
Yay thanks. I know it exactly. I lived in Hayward and followed my mother to 
many sales at the IDES hall
Gordon 

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Ângela Loura  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> According to the Azores Government site:
> 
> 
>   
> SESFM - Flor da Mocidade  
>  
> Holy Ghost Society
> 
>  
>  
> 1105 "C" Street, Hayward
> 
>   
> CA, 94542 - USA
> 
> 
> Em 28/01/2018 23:21, "Cheri Mello"  escreveu:
>> FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>>> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
>>> Gordon
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
 
 SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of 
 the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city 
 was your ancestor in?
 
 On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
 Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? 
 Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was 
 the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know 
 what the SESFM stands for.
 
 Gordon Soares
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Ângela Loura
Hi,
According to the Azores Government site:


SESFM - Flor da Mocidade


Holy Ghost Society



1105 "C" Street, Hayward

CA, 94542 - USA


Em 28/01/2018 23:21, "Cheri Mello"  escreveu:

> FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
>
> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>
>> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
>> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
>> was your ancestor in?
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>
>> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Cheri Mello
Just ask Google!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

> The FM stands for "Flor da Mocidade"
>
> http://www.azores.gov.pt/Portal/pt/entidades/srapre-
> drcomunidades/contactos/SESFM+-+Flor+da+Mocidade.htm
>
> I Googled it. LOL!
>
> Mary
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:29 PM Gordon soares  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>
>> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Mary Bordi
The FM stands for "Flor da Mocidade"

http://www.azores.gov.pt/Portal/pt/entidades/srapre-drcomunidades/contactos/SESFM+-+Flor+da+Mocidade.htm

I Googled it. LOL!

Mary

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:29 PM Gordon soares  wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
> what the SESFM stands for.
>
> Gordon Soares
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Diane George
Hi, Gordon,

I agree with Susan--not likely to be Fremont. All the Portuguese societies in 
California merged in 2010 into the Portuguese Fraternal Society of America. A 
brief statement of the formation and organizations that merged is included on 
the website at http://www.mypfsa.org/about-us/#/.
You may also be able to contact them via email or telephone. 

Diane George

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From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

Hi Gordon,

I’m wondering where you are reading that your grandfather was a founding member 
etc? I don’t know the answer but the city of Fremont was formed in late 1950s 
from most of the towns that were Washington Township so I doubt that FM stood 
for that if what you are reading refers to a time before 1960.
My father lived in Centerville which eventually became part of Fremont and had 
a policy from SES. I know I had to contact the organization located in San Jose 
in order to collect on the policy when he died. 

Doesn’t answer your question, but I wouldn’t guess that it stands for Fremont. 
Maybe Fraternal Men’s? Even tho I have never seen that tagged on?


Susan Vargas Murphy 

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:14 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
> <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe SES is one of the organizations that merged into PFSA. You can find 
> PFSA on line and contact them to see what they have about the SES (if they 
> are now part of PFSA).  
> 
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, 1/28/18, Gordon soares <gws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 28, 2018, 4:01 PM
> 
> Fremont is
> what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in Oakland. Any 
> idea how one goes about getting the info or dox related to such 
> organizations? I don’t know how “legal” these orgs had to be.
> 
> Sent
> from my iPhone
> On Jan 28,
> 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> FM may be Freemont. Someone more
> familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, 
> "Gordon soares" <gws...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Oakland ca . At one point
> lived on Adeline Street .Gordon
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> SES
> is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of 
> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What 
> city was your ancestor in?
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares" <gws...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM
> Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual Machado Soares was 
> supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the President for 
> awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know what the SESFM 
> stands for.
> 
> 
> 
> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
Hi Gordon,

I’m wondering where you are reading that your grandfather was a founding member 
etc? I don’t know the answer but the city of Fremont was formed in late 1950s 
from most of the towns that were Washington Township so I doubt that FM stood 
for that if what you are reading refers to a time before 1960.
My father lived in Centerville which eventually became part of Fremont and had 
a policy from SES. I know I had to contact the organization located in San Jose 
in order to collect on the policy when he died. 

Doesn’t answer your question, but I wouldn’t guess that it stands for Fremont. 
Maybe Fraternal Men’s? Even tho I have never seen that tagged on?


Susan Vargas Murphy 

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:14 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
> <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe SES is one of the organizations that merged into PFSA. You can find 
> PFSA on line and contact them to see what they have about the SES (if they 
> are now part of PFSA).  
> 
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, 1/28/18, Gordon soares <gws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 28, 2018, 4:01 PM
> 
> Fremont is
> what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in
> Oakland. Any idea how one goes about getting the info or dox
> related to such organizations? I don’t know how
> “legal” these orgs had to be. 
> 
> Sent
> from my iPhone
> On Jan 28,
> 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> FM may be Freemont. Someone more
> familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM,
> "Gordon soares" <gws...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Oakland ca . At one point
> lived on Adeline Street .Gordon
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> SES
> is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or
> Society of the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the
> area of California. What city was your ancestor in?
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares" <gws...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM
> Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual Machado Soares
> was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the
> President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I
> don’t know what the SESFM stands for.
> 
> 
> 
> Gordon Soares
> 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Cheri Mello
Some of the fraternity records are on the Azores Genweb. I am not at home.
Maybe someone else can send the link. Cheri

On Jan 28, 2018 4:01 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:

> Fremont is what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in Oakland.
> Any idea how one goes about getting the info or dox related to such
> organizations? I don’t know how “legal” these orgs had to be.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
>
> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>
>> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
>> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
>> was your ancestor in?
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>
>> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy

I believe SES is one of the organizations that merged into PFSA. You can find 
PFSA on line and contact them to see what they have about the SES (if they are 
now part of PFSA).  

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Sun, 1/28/18, Gordon soares <gws...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 28, 2018, 4:01 PM
 
 Fremont is
 what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in
 Oakland. Any idea how one goes about getting the info or dox
 related to such organizations? I don’t know how
 “legal” these orgs had to be. 
 
 Sent
 from my iPhone
 On Jan 28,
 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 FM may be Freemont. Someone more
 familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
 On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM,
 "Gordon soares" <gws...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 Oakland ca . At one point
 lived on Adeline Street .Gordon
 
 On Jan
 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 SES
 is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or
 Society of the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the
 area of California. What city was your ancestor in?
 
 On Jan
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 Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM
 Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual Machado Soares
 was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the
 President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I
 don’t know what the SESFM stands for.
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Gordon soares
Fremont is what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in Oakland. Any 
idea how one goes about getting the info or dox related to such organizations? 
I don’t know how “legal” these orgs had to be. 

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
>> Gordon
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of 
>>> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city 
>>> was your ancestor in?
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? 
>>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was 
>>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know 
>>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>> 
>>> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Cheri Mello
FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri

On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:

> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
> Gordon
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
> was your ancestor in?
>
> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
> what the SESFM stands for.
>
> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Gordon soares
Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
Gordon


> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of the 
> Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city was 
> your ancestor in?
> 
> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  > wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual 
> Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the 
> President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know what 
> the SESFM stands for.
> 
> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Cheri Mello
SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
was your ancestor in?

On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
what the SESFM stands for.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

2018-01-28 Thread Gordon soares
Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual 
Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the 
President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know what the 
SESFM stands for.

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