Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel-son of Manuel Silveira of Ribeiras Pico Azores b. 25 Jul 1741

[Evee Silva Kiler]

Thank you for the "tip" regarding Ribeiras records and for the other 
suggestions.  Most of my research has been for Santo Amaro, Pico so far, 
but now the earlier ancestors are leading me to other freguesias.

On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 9:59:13 PM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote:
>
> I have found while  researching my  Ribeiras families, that many records 
> are filed in Lajes. My Silveira Soares family there lived in Terras, 
> between the two churches. 
>
> A marriage record may be found in Lajes , but baptisms in Ribeiras, then 
> obito in Lajes for the same person
>
> Eric Edgar
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:52 PM, luiznoia .  > wrote:
>
>> Manuel, filho de Manuel Silveira Carauta e Maria da Encarnacion 
>>
>> baptised 25 Julho 1741
>>
>> he died 24 Janeiro 1742
>>
>> by cross referencing the UMinho site
>>
>>
>> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Ribeiras;lang=pt;i=905;oc=127 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:53 PM, linda > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Evee,
>>>
>>> Here's a stab at it.  
>>>
>>> I can't read the father's second surname, but I don't think it's Costa 
>>> though it could be da Costa. 
>>>
>>> The mother's name looks like Maria da Encarnacao (Maria do En CarnaCam)
>>>
>>> I read the date the same as you do.   I can't make out what it says 
>>> after Ribeirinhas.
>>>
>>> I see "foi baptizado por mim o Cura desta Igza"  Igza = igresia,  Cura = 
>>> curate
>>>
>>> Godmother is Roza da ConCeiCam (Rosa da Conceicao) m.er do Sargento (?) 
>>> Balthazar  Vieyra.  I don't know if it is "sargento"; my brain wants to 
>>> turn it into Lorenzo, but letter by letter, sargento seems to fit better.
>>>
>>> The margin note is Latin and means "(he/it) has it not"  I've never seen 
>>> that before and have no idea what it means.
>>>
>>> best wishes,
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 1:02:01 PM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:

 I need some help with the following baptism record:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749_item1/P74.html

 Manuel is the first complete baptism record on the page at the right.

 I don't know what the note in the left margin means.  It seems to be 
 the same for most people in this book of baptisms.

 This is what I think I see in the baptism record:

 Manuel, son of Manuel Silveira Costa???[I can't read the 
 mother's name...looks like Rozia da ]
 residents of this freguesia parish of Santa Barbara Ribeiras 
 
 born 25th day of the month of July 1741 ??? baptism by me  [I don't 
 understand the abbreviation for his "title"] of this church underwritten 
 and assigned the 30th day of this month and this year.  

 For godparents:  Bartholomu Homem husband of Maria Silveria and Roza da 
 [??] wife of So??? Balthazar

 I don't understand the writing after Balthazar.

 Pretty sketchy, I know, but I am having a terrible time reading the 
 writing with all the abreviations of this priest, Thome Cardoso Machado???

 What I'm looking for, of course, are the names within the record and 
 any information specific to the individuals...beyond the "boiler-plate" 
 language that appears in most of the records of this time and place.

 I'm looking for Manuel Silveira Costa who was the husband of my 3rd 
 great grand aunt...Maria Silveira...all of Ribeiras, Pico, I believe.

 Thank you for any help!  

 Evee Silva Kiler





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel-son of Manuel Silveira of Ribeiras Pico Azores b. 25 Jul 1741

[luiznoia .]

I have found while  researching my  Ribeiras families, that many records
are filed in Lajes. My Silveira Soares family there lived in Terras,
between the two churches.

A marriage record may be found in Lajes , but baptisms in Ribeiras, then
obito in Lajes for the same person

Eric Edgar

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:52 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

> Manuel, filho de Manuel Silveira Carauta e Maria da Encarnacion
>
> baptised 25 Julho 1741
>
> he died 24 Janeiro 1742
>
> by cross referencing the UMinho site
>
>
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Ribeiras;lang=pt;i=905;oc=127
>
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:53 PM, linda  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Evee,
>>
>> Here's a stab at it.
>>
>> I can't read the father's second surname, but I don't think it's Costa
>> though it could be da Costa.
>>
>> The mother's name looks like Maria da Encarnacao (Maria do En CarnaCam)
>>
>> I read the date the same as you do.   I can't make out what it says after
>> Ribeirinhas.
>>
>> I see "foi baptizado por mim o Cura desta Igza"  Igza = igresia,  Cura =
>> curate
>>
>> Godmother is Roza da ConCeiCam (Rosa da Conceicao) m.er do Sargento (?)
>> Balthazar  Vieyra.  I don't know if it is "sargento"; my brain wants to
>> turn it into Lorenzo, but letter by letter, sargento seems to fit better.
>>
>> The margin note is Latin and means "(he/it) has it not"  I've never seen
>> that before and have no idea what it means.
>>
>> best wishes,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 1:02:01 PM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>>>
>>> I need some help with the following baptism record:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749_item1/P74.html
>>>
>>> Manuel is the first complete baptism record on the page at the right.
>>>
>>> I don't know what the note in the left margin means.  It seems to be the
>>> same for most people in this book of baptisms.
>>>
>>> This is what I think I see in the baptism record:
>>>
>>> Manuel, son of Manuel Silveira Costa???[I can't read the
>>> mother's name...looks like Rozia da ]
>>> residents of this freguesia parish of Santa Barbara Ribeiras
>>> 
>>> born 25th day of the month of July 1741 ??? baptism by me  [I don't
>>> understand the abbreviation for his "title"] of this church underwritten
>>> and assigned the 30th day of this month and this year.
>>>
>>> For godparents:  Bartholomu Homem husband of Maria Silveria and Roza da
>>> [??] wife of So??? Balthazar
>>>
>>> I don't understand the writing after Balthazar.
>>>
>>> Pretty sketchy, I know, but I am having a terrible time reading the
>>> writing with all the abreviations of this priest, Thome Cardoso Machado???
>>>
>>> What I'm looking for, of course, are the names within the record and any
>>> information specific to the individuals...beyond the "boiler-plate"
>>> language that appears in most of the records of this time and place.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for Manuel Silveira Costa who was the husband of my 3rd
>>> great grand aunt...Maria Silveira...all of Ribeiras, Pico, I believe.
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help!
>>>
>>> Evee Silva Kiler
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel-son of Manuel Silveira of Ribeiras Pico Azores b. 25 Jul 1741

[luiznoia .]

Manuel, filho de Manuel Silveira Carauta e Maria da Encarnacion

baptised 25 Julho 1741

he died 24 Janeiro 1742

by cross referencing the UMinho site

http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Ribeiras;lang=pt;i=905;oc=127



Eric Edgar





On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:53 PM, linda  wrote:

>
> Hi Evee,
>
> Here's a stab at it.
>
> I can't read the father's second surname, but I don't think it's Costa
> though it could be da Costa.
>
> The mother's name looks like Maria da Encarnacao (Maria do En CarnaCam)
>
> I read the date the same as you do.   I can't make out what it says after
> Ribeirinhas.
>
> I see "foi baptizado por mim o Cura desta Igza"  Igza = igresia,  Cura =
> curate
>
> Godmother is Roza da ConCeiCam (Rosa da Conceicao) m.er do Sargento (?)
> Balthazar  Vieyra.  I don't know if it is "sargento"; my brain wants to
> turn it into Lorenzo, but letter by letter, sargento seems to fit better.
>
> The margin note is Latin and means "(he/it) has it not"  I've never seen
> that before and have no idea what it means.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 1:02:01 PM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>>
>> I need some help with the following baptism record:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749_item1/P74.html
>>
>> Manuel is the first complete baptism record on the page at the right.
>>
>> I don't know what the note in the left margin means.  It seems to be the
>> same for most people in this book of baptisms.
>>
>> This is what I think I see in the baptism record:
>>
>> Manuel, son of Manuel Silveira Costa???[I can't read the mother's
>> name...looks like Rozia da ]
>> residents of this freguesia parish of Santa Barbara Ribeiras
>> 
>> born 25th day of the month of July 1741 ??? baptism by me  [I don't
>> understand the abbreviation for his "title"] of this church underwritten
>> and assigned the 30th day of this month and this year.
>>
>> For godparents:  Bartholomu Homem husband of Maria Silveria and Roza da
>> [??] wife of So??? Balthazar
>>
>> I don't understand the writing after Balthazar.
>>
>> Pretty sketchy, I know, but I am having a terrible time reading the
>> writing with all the abreviations of this priest, Thome Cardoso Machado???
>>
>> What I'm looking for, of course, are the names within the record and any
>> information specific to the individuals...beyond the "boiler-plate"
>> language that appears in most of the records of this time and place.
>>
>> I'm looking for Manuel Silveira Costa who was the husband of my 3rd great
>> grand aunt...Maria Silveira...all of Ribeiras, Pico, I believe.
>>
>> Thank you for any help!
>>
>> Evee Silva Kiler
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel-son of Manuel Silveira of Ribeiras Pico Azores b. 25 Jul 1741

[Evee Silva Kiler]

Thank you, Linda...that helps.  I, too, want that word to be Lorenzo...but 
the first letter is like the other "S" in the record.  

On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 7:53:26 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>
>
> Hi Evee,
>
> Here's a stab at it.  
>
> I can't read the father's second surname, but I don't think it's Costa 
> though it could be da Costa. 
>
> The mother's name looks like Maria da Encarnacao (Maria do En CarnaCam)
>
> I read the date the same as you do.   I can't make out what it says after 
> Ribeirinhas.
>
> I see "foi baptizado por mim o Cura desta Igza"  Igza = igresia,  Cura = 
> curate
>
> Godmother is Roza da ConCeiCam (Rosa da Conceicao) m.er do Sargento (?) 
> Balthazar  Vieyra.  I don't know if it is "sargento"; my brain wants to 
> turn it into Lorenzo, but letter by letter, sargento seems to fit better.
>
> The margin note is Latin and means "(he/it) has it not"  I've never seen 
> that before and have no idea what it means.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Linda
>
> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 1:02:01 PM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>>
>> I need some help with the following baptism record:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749_item1/P74.html
>>
>> Manuel is the first complete baptism record on the page at the right.
>>
>> I don't know what the note in the left margin means.  It seems to be the 
>> same for most people in this book of baptisms.
>>
>> This is what I think I see in the baptism record:
>>
>> Manuel, son of Manuel Silveira Costa???[I can't read the mother's 
>> name...looks like Rozia da ]
>> residents of this freguesia parish of Santa Barbara Ribeiras 
>> 
>> born 25th day of the month of July 1741 ??? baptism by me  [I don't 
>> understand the abbreviation for his "title"] of this church underwritten 
>> and assigned the 30th day of this month and this year.  
>>
>> For godparents:  Bartholomu Homem husband of Maria Silveria and Roza da 
>> [??] wife of So??? Balthazar
>>
>> I don't understand the writing after Balthazar.
>>
>> Pretty sketchy, I know, but I am having a terrible time reading the 
>> writing with all the abreviations of this priest, Thome Cardoso Machado???
>>
>> What I'm looking for, of course, are the names within the record and any 
>> information specific to the individuals...beyond the "boiler-plate" 
>> language that appears in most of the records of this time and place.
>>
>> I'm looking for Manuel Silveira Costa who was the husband of my 3rd great 
>> grand aunt...Maria Silveira...all of Ribeiras, Pico, I believe.
>>
>> Thank you for any help!  
>>
>> Evee Silva Kiler
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel-son of Manuel Silveira of Ribeiras Pico Azores b. 25 Jul 1741

[linda]

Hi Evee,

Here's a stab at it.  

I can't read the father's second surname, but I don't think it's Costa 
though it could be da Costa. 

The mother's name looks like Maria da Encarnacao (Maria do En CarnaCam)

I read the date the same as you do.   I can't make out what it says after 
Ribeirinhas.

I see "foi baptizado por mim o Cura desta Igza"  Igza = igresia,  Cura = 
curate

Godmother is Roza da ConCeiCam (Rosa da Conceicao) m.er do Sargento (?) 
Balthazar  Vieyra.  I don't know if it is "sargento"; my brain wants to 
turn it into Lorenzo, but letter by letter, sargento seems to fit better.

The margin note is Latin and means "(he/it) has it not"  I've never seen 
that before and have no idea what it means.

best wishes,

Linda

On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 1:02:01 PM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>
> I need some help with the following baptism record:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749_item1/P74.html
>
> Manuel is the first complete baptism record on the page at the right.
>
> I don't know what the note in the left margin means.  It seems to be the 
> same for most people in this book of baptisms.
>
> This is what I think I see in the baptism record:
>
> Manuel, son of Manuel Silveira Costa???[I can't read the mother's 
> name...looks like Rozia da ]
> residents of this freguesia parish of Santa Barbara Ribeiras 
> 
> born 25th day of the month of July 1741 ??? baptism by me  [I don't 
> understand the abbreviation for his "title"] of this church underwritten 
> and assigned the 30th day of this month and this year.  
>
> For godparents:  Bartholomu Homem husband of Maria Silveria and Roza da 
> [??] wife of So??? Balthazar
>
> I don't understand the writing after Balthazar.
>
> Pretty sketchy, I know, but I am having a terrible time reading the 
> writing with all the abreviations of this priest, Thome Cardoso Machado???
>
> What I'm looking for, of course, are the names within the record and any 
> information specific to the individuals...beyond the "boiler-plate" 
> language that appears in most of the records of this time and place.
>
> I'm looking for Manuel Silveira Costa who was the husband of my 3rd great 
> grand aunt...Maria Silveira...all of Ribeiras, Pico, I believe.
>
> Thank you for any help!  
>
> Evee Silva Kiler
>
>
>
>
>
>

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