Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-25 Thread Cheri Mello 
Rocio is not in the surname section of James Guill's "A History of the
Azores Islands." Which means it doesn't exist or he never encountered it in
his research.

You may need to collect all the siblings of Agueda to solve this one.  Cheri
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:30 AM  wrote:

> I still think Agueda's baptism has the father as Joao Vieira "do Rocio" as
> the indexer wrote.  I am not the most knowledgeable on Portuguese
> names--but "do Rocio" makes no sense to me and I can't think of what else
> it might be.
>
> CITCEM has both of these Joao you reference as "Joao Vieira Bezerra".
>
> The one married to Apolonia Dias, born 25 Nov 1899 to parents Antonio
> Vieira Bezerra and Barbara Manuel.
> The other one married to Margarida Pereira, born 13 May 1607, to parents
> Gonçalo Martins Vieira Bezerra and Merênciana Cerqueira
>
> Bill
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 8:09:36 PM UTC-8, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Fawn,
>>
>> The index you posted is for a baptism, but the record you posted is a
>> marriage.  Here is the baptism the index entry you posted references:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670_item1/P40.html
>>
>>
>> I think the indexer transcribed exactly what it looks like, then
>> attempted to clarify the identity with info that was not in the record
>> (which the indexer rightfully put in parentheses)
>>
>>
>> Bill Seidler
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 7:34:34 PM UTC-8, 2si...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I
>>> appreciate all the work that has been done in putting together these
>>> wonderful indexes and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many
>>> others.  Thank you so much to all who have done this.
>>>
>>> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism
>>> record.  The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao
>>> Vieira Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify,
>>> there is no mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
>>>
>>> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from
>>> Joao's marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra
>>> who is married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during
>>> this same time period.
>>>
>>> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you
>>> for any thoughts on this.
>>>
>>> Fawn Silva
>>> St. Louis, MO
>>>
>>> Third baptism down on left side
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-25 Thread bsei2816 
I still think Agueda's baptism has the father as Joao Vieira "do Rocio" as 
the indexer wrote.  I am not the most knowledgeable on Portuguese 
names--but "do Rocio" makes no sense to me and I can't think of what else 
it might be.

CITCEM has both of these Joao you reference as "Joao Vieira Bezerra".  

The one married to Apolonia Dias, born 25 Nov 1899 to parents Antonio 
Vieira Bezerra and Barbara Manuel.  
The other one married to Margarida Pereira, born 13 May 1607, to parents 
Gonçalo Martins Vieira Bezerra and Merênciana Cerqueira

Bill

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 8:09:36 PM UTC-8, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Fawn,
>
> The index you posted is for a baptism, but the record you posted is a 
> marriage.  Here is the baptism the index entry you posted references:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670_item1/P40.html
>
>
> I think the indexer transcribed exactly what it looks like, then attempted 
> to clarify the identity with info that was not in the record (which the 
> indexer rightfully put in parentheses)
>
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 7:34:34 PM UTC-8, 2si...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I 
>> appreciate all the work that has been done in putting together these 
>> wonderful indexes and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many 
>> others.  Thank you so much to all who have done this.
>>
>> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism 
>> record.  The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao 
>> Vieira Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, 
>> there is no mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
>>
>> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from 
>> Joao's marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra 
>> who is married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during 
>> this same time period. 
>>
>> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you 
>> for any thoughts on this.
>>
>> Fawn Silva
>> St. Louis, MO
>>
>> Third baptism down on left side
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html
>>
>>
>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-24 Thread bsei2816 
Fawn,

The index you posted is for a baptism, but the record you posted is a 
marriage.  Here is the baptism the index entry you posted references:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670_item1/P40.html


I think the indexer transcribed exactly what it looks like, then attempted 
to clarify the identity with info that was not in the record (which the 
indexer rightfully put in parentheses)


Bill Seidler





On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 7:34:34 PM UTC-8, 2si...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I appreciate 
> all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes 
> and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others.  Thank 
> you so much to all who have done this.
>
> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism 
> record.  The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao 
> Vieira Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, 
> there is no mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
>
> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from 
> Joao's marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra 
> who is married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during 
> this same time period. 
>
> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you 
> for any thoughts on this.
>
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
>
> Third baptism down on left side
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html
>
>
> 
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> www.avast.com 
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