Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-04 Thread gomes.ances...@gmail.com
When it comes to having a public tree.  I have my research tree and my tree for 
display.  I can care less what others have in their tree because that is their 
house.  Mine is documented and sourced.  I barely get any time for this hobby.  
I have no time to worry what others are doing on their trees.  

Eric Gomes
Castro Valley, CA



On Apr 2, 2013, at 6:51 AM, Lorinda Sevenans lseven...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of the census...  In the newly released 1940 census my uncle, Ralph 
 Hinchey Baker, is listed as John Baker!!! I know it's him because he lived at 
 the same address for 40 years and the wife and 2 sons are his. The census 
 worker listed his wife as the one who gave the information. He was NEVER 
 known as John! I wonder if she thought she was protecting their privacy by 
 changing his name?
 
 Lorinda Baker Sevenans
 Researching: Luiz/Lewis, Vieiera, Silva 
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 And it's real funny to watch someone have 24 kids in 12 years!  My mom's mom 
 was Beulah.  They don't spell real well in the Ozarks.  So the census takers 
 wrote Bula, Beulah, Bulah, etc.  And someone has all 3 names in their tree.  
 All within a 2 year period?  By glancing at the tree, you'd think that there 
 were twins in there!
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
 Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-04 Thread gomes.ances...@gmail.com
I also have unchecked the family tree search on ancestry because of this exact 
reason.  



On Apr 2, 2013, at 6:51 AM, Lorinda Sevenans lseven...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of the census...  In the newly released 1940 census my uncle, Ralph 
 Hinchey Baker, is listed as John Baker!!! I know it's him because he lived at 
 the same address for 40 years and the wife and 2 sons are his. The census 
 worker listed his wife as the one who gave the information. He was NEVER 
 known as John! I wonder if she thought she was protecting their privacy by 
 changing his name?
 
 Lorinda Baker Sevenans
 Researching: Luiz/Lewis, Vieiera, Silva 
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 And it's real funny to watch someone have 24 kids in 12 years!  My mom's mom 
 was Beulah.  They don't spell real well in the Ozarks.  So the census takers 
 wrote Bula, Beulah, Bulah, etc.  And someone has all 3 names in their tree.  
 All within a 2 year period?  By glancing at the tree, you'd think that there 
 were twins in there!
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
 Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-02 Thread Lorinda Sevenans
Speaking of the census...  In the newly released 1940 census my uncle,
Ralph Hinchey Baker, is listed as John Baker!!! I know it's him because he
lived at the same address for 40 years and the wife and 2 sons are his. The
census worker listed his wife as the one who gave the information. He was
NEVER known as John! I wonder if she thought she was protecting their
privacy by changing his name?

Lorinda Baker Sevenans
Researching: Luiz/Lewis, Vieiera, Silva


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 And it's real funny to watch someone have 24 kids in 12 years!  My mom's
 mom was Beulah.  They don't spell real well in the Ozarks.  So the census
 takers wrote Bula, Beulah, Bulah, etc.  And someone has all 3 names in
 their tree.  All within a 2 year period?  By glancing at the tree, you'd
 think that there were twins in there!

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread sdarosa
Hi Pam,
When you send out an invitation for someone to view your tree, you need to 
set them as a Guest, not an editor or contributor.  That way they cannot 
add anything to your tree.  I think this might have been what happened.

When you send out an invitation to someone there is a drop down box next to 
their name/email/username where you can choose what role you want them to 
have.  You can also go in afterward (Now) and set them as a guest if they 
are currently an admin/contributor.

To go in now and change it you go to your tree.  At the top click on the 
drop down menu and choose share your tree.  A pop up window comes up and at 
the top you'll see these words:  
After you invite your family and friends to this tree you can manage 
invites and roles on the Tree 
Settingshttp://trees.ancestry.com/tree/47823284/settings/sharing/manageinvitees
 page.

The words Tree Settings is a link and you click on that  it lets you 
update your settings for people who you are allowing to view your tree.

If it were me, I would not rely on whoever changed your tree to go change 
it - After you set them to guests you can make the changes yourself so you 
are sure they are correct. Kind of a pain but it will be done correctly.


Suzanne



On Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:10:30 PM UTC-6, Pam Santos wrote:

 Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little perplexed because 
 I do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers side and made 
 that info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random children 
 added to my couple and  a date of death which is not correct. I emailed the 
 people and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy what they have 
 and its not correct.

 I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a 
 person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one 
 responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the 
 wrong parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix 
 it so others don't make the same mistake.
  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks Kathy, yes I have found erroneous information on my father also who
passed away in 2000. Emailed the person but no response.  Suzanne nobody
changed my tree and the people I have invited are Guest. What happened one
person who I had invited put the information from my tree on to heir public
tree and then from their people randomly started attaching children and
putting census that they were living in England in 1851 when they married
in Massachusttes in 1836 and are in the census in Massachusettes in 1850.
They never went to England nor were they from England.


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:59 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pam,
 When you send out an invitation for someone to view your tree, you need to
 set them as a Guest, not an editor or contributor.  That way they cannot
 add anything to your tree.  I think this might have been what happened.

 When you send out an invitation to someone there is a drop down box next
 to their name/email/username where you can choose what role you want them
 to have.  You can also go in afterward (Now) and set them as a guest if
 they are currently an admin/contributor.

 To go in now and change it you go to your tree.  At the top click on the
 drop down menu and choose share your tree.  A pop up window comes up and at
 the top you'll see these words:
 After you invite your family and friends to this tree you can manage
 invites and roles on the Tree 
 Settingshttp://trees.ancestry.com/tree/47823284/settings/sharing/manageinvitees
  page.

 The words Tree Settings is a link and you click on that  it lets you
 update your settings for people who you are allowing to view your tree.

 If it were me, I would not rely on whoever changed your tree to go change
 it - After you set them to guests you can make the changes yourself so you
 are sure they are correct. Kind of a pain but it will be done correctly.


 Suzanne



 On Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:10:30 PM UTC-6, Pam Santos wrote:

 Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little perplexed because
 I do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers side and made
 that info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random children
 added to my couple and  a date of death which is not correct. I emailed the
 people and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy what they have
 and its not correct.

 I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a
 person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one
 responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the
 wrong parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix
 it so others don't make the same mistake.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread Cindy D
I agree with the postings here.  This is my biggest pet peeve in my 
genealogy odyssey.  I too have had people take info from my tree and 
wrongly attach to their trees.  My own grandfather's records have been 
taken from my tree without my knowlege (because it was public back then),  
they posted that he died in a different year, buried in a different state, 
different age. I went to Joe's funeral so I'm pretty sure I have the right 
guy!  I too wrote and asked for a fix,  but also never got a reply or a 
fix.  I was furious.  I've had this happen on other lines as well, and have 
had photos taken and attached to other trees without permission or 
a credit.  I have since removed all photos and privatized all my trees and 
before I release info, I've learned to watermark photos, and go check out 
their tree first.  Most people want to do it right, but a lot just want to 
attach-attach-attach without documenting.  Quantity without quality.  I 
suppose what irks me most is who knows how long those incorrect trees will 
survive online and perhaps some distant 2nd or 3rd cousin will copy it all 
wrong and they'll be following the wrong family for eternity.
 
CindyD

On Monday, April 1, 2013 12:10:30 AM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote:

 Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little perplexed because 
 I do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers side and made 
 that info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random children 
 added to my couple and  a date of death which is not correct. I emailed the 
 people and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy what they have 
 and its not correct.

 I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a 
 person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one 
 responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the 
 wrong parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix 
 it so others don't make the same mistake.
  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread David Perry
I have the same frustration and I think the reason folks don't respond is 
that they are amateurs who see the ads on TV, jump at the introductory 
offer, find a few common names, swipe them to their tree and then lose 
interest.  When they don't pay to stay on Ancestry, they're long gone 
though their incorrect information is there for eternity.  The only thing 
we can do is put comments on their tree regarding the incorrect information 
but if their tree is private we're out of luck.  One Ancestry member 
distantly related to me has only a dozen or so names on his tree at any one 
time - the names he's researching using the Ancestry sources.  Once he has 
everything he can get, he deletes these folks and ads new names to research.
David

On Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:10:30 PM UTC-7, Pam Santos wrote:

 Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little perplexed because 
 I do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers side and made 
 that info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random children 
 added to my couple and  a date of death which is not correct. I emailed the 
 people and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy what they have 
 and its not correct.

 I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a 
 person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one 
 responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the 
 wrong parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix 
 it so others don't make the same mistake.
  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Only my direct lineage is on the Internet - attached to the DNA accounts
that I manage on FTDNA.  So technically, people have to pay to see my tree.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread pico
This reminds me of all the errors created and perpetuated from the Minho website (NEPS).There are so many mistakes in the Ribeiras, Pico families, I can imagine someone having only half their real ancestors by clicking on their links. It might be worse in Ribeiras than other places, because of so many similar names - so many named Silveira. Half the wives are Silveira and many are Maria Silveira. So whoever did the research got careless and just started connecting the dots. Kathy Cardoza talked in a recent post about proper evaluation of the information. That's what is lacking for Ribeiras. Quite shocking and shoddy work.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees
From: David Perry djperr...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Mon, April 01, 2013 8:03 am
To: azores@googlegroups.com

I have the same frustration and I think the reason folks don't respond is that they are amateurs who see the ads on TV, jump at the introductory offer, find a few common names, swipe them to their tree and then lose interest. When they don't pay to stay on Ancestry, they're long gone though their incorrect information is there for eternity. The only thing we can do is put comments on their tree regarding the incorrect information but if their tree is "private"we're out of luck. One Ancestry member distantly related to me has only a dozen or so names on his tree at any one time - the names he's researching using the Ancestry sources. Once he has everything he can get, he deletes these folks and ads new names to research.DavidOn Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:10:30 PM UTC-7, Pam Santos wrote:Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little perplexed because I do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers side and made that info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random children added to my couple and a date of death which is not correct. I emailed the people and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy what they have and its not correct. I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the wrong parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix it so others don't make the same mistake.--  





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
This is a story that is all too common of posting your tree on the net and
then having someone hijack it and then add errors. I will not post my
information on a site that makes it easy for someone to down load it. I do
have my basic tree posted on the Family Tree DNA site but if anyone wants to
copy it they will have to do it by copying one name at a time and type it in
to their site. This is not to say I will not share my information as I am
happy to help anyone on this list that asks as I feel that we are all
serious about our work and are not just collecting names to fill in blanks. 

 

A number of years there was a discussion on the old Roots Web Azores List
about posting trees and that some sites (companies) that were encouraging
you to post it were assuming copy rights for your work which would prevent
you from publishing your own work. I am not sure if that applies today but I
am not giving my information to someone to profit from.

 

I would also say that beware of any information that comes from on line
trees (this includes Family Search) as there are many that are un-sourced
and contain errors. I will not give information unless I have the source for
it. 

 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cindy D
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

 

I agree with the postings here.  This is my biggest pet peeve in my
genealogy odyssey.  I too have had people take info from my tree and wrongly
attach to their trees.  My own grandfather's records have been taken from my
tree without my knowlege (because it was public back then),  they posted
that he died in a different year, buried in a different state, different
age. I went to Joe's funeral so I'm pretty sure I have the right guy!  I too
wrote and asked for a fix,  but also never got a reply or a fix.  I was
furious.  I've had this happen on other lines as well, and have had photos
taken and attached to other trees without permission or a credit.  I have
since removed all photos and privatized all my trees and before I release
info, I've learned to watermark photos, and go check out their tree first.
Most people want to do it right, but a lot just want to attach-attach-attach
without documenting.  Quantity without quality.  I suppose what irks me most
is who knows how long those incorrect trees will survive online and perhaps
some distant 2nd or 3rd cousin will copy it all wrong and they'll be
following the wrong family for eternity.

 

CindyD


On Monday, April 1, 2013 12:10:30 AM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote:

Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little perplexed because I
do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers side and made that
info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random children added to
my couple and  a date of death which is not correct. I emailed the people
and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy what they have and its
not correct.

 

I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a
person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one
responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the
wrong parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix
it so others don't make the same mistake.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread Shirl Sereque
My tree is public, mainly to find out if someone from my Mom's side has any 
info on her ancestors.  I have seen my Uncle Stanley on another tree with his 
correct information but totally different children.  They never wrote back to 
me, either.  My great aunt's tombstone looks like 1906 when it's really 1903 
because I have her death certificate.  Wrote to them, also, but never heard and 
never went back to their tree to verify if they changed it.  I've seen other 
trees where the parents were born after the kids!  Don't they check the dates???
- Shirl -





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread Cheri Mello
And it's real funny to watch someone have 24 kids in 12 years!  My mom's
mom was Beulah.  They don't spell real well in the Ozarks.  So the census
takers wrote Bula, Beulah, Bulah, etc.  And someone has all 3 names in
their tree.  All within a 2 year period?  By glancing at the tree, you'd
think that there were twins in there!

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread netadosAcores
That is exactly  what I do, because what comes up to research is more than 
when you are  researching with just a name, and that person family info in 
the search  catagory.
 
AVA
 
 
In a message dated 4/1/2013 10:28:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
djperr...@sbcglobal.net writes:

I have the same frustration and I think the reason folks don't respond is  
that they are amateurs who see the ads on TV, jump at the introductory 
offer,  find a few common names, swipe them to their tree and then lose  
interest.  When they don't pay to stay on Ancestry, they're long gone  though 
their 
incorrect information is there for eternity.  The only thing  we can do is 
put comments on their tree regarding the incorrect information  but if their 
tree is private we're out of luck.  One Ancestry  member distantly related 
to me has only a dozen or so names on his tree at any  one time - the names 
he's researching using the Ancestry sources.  Once  he has everything he 
can get, he deletes these folks and ads new names to  research.
David

On Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:10:30 PM UTC-7, Pam Santos wrote:

Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little  perplexed because 
I do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers  side and made 
that info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random  children added 
to my couple and  a date of death which is not correct.  I emailed the 
people and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy  what they have and 
its not correct.  


I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a  
person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one  
responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the  
wrong 
parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix  it so 
others don't make the same mistake.


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