Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-09-21 Thread Bill Seidler 
Hi Sam,

It is Angelina C. Santos (not Sousa).  On the first page of Angelina's 
baptism it says her parents are João Cabral and Ana Filomena de Loura.

Bill



On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
>
> Bill, thank you for this.  I see the ano corrente now.  I am confused by 
> your note of finding Angelina C. Sousa of the right birth date and 
> parents.  How does the name de Loura, (deLoria) fit in? 
>
>  
>
> Thanks for all your help,
>
>  
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>  
>
> *From: *Bill Seidler 
> *Sent: *Friday, September 20, 2019 8:31 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do 
> Porto, Santa Maria
>
>  
>
> It doesn't give the bride's age.  What you see as vinte um actually says 
> ano corrente, com...
>
>  
>
> You have the groom's age correct.  His mother I see as Isabel de Jesus.
>
>  
>
> By the way, I found a Angelina C. Santos with the same date of birth (1 
> Apr 1904) and same parents surnames (except de Loura is spelled deLoira) on 
> the California death register: date 17 May 1991 in Orange, CA.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
> On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 4:52:47 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
>
> I can make most of it out but; need help with the groom’s mother’s name.  
> Starts on previous page but; what I need help with is the sidenote on the 
> left page.
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P79.html
>
>  
>
> Angelina da Conceicao Cabral marries in Vila do Porto, at the age of 21, 
> Antonio dos Santos who is 24, single and the son of Jose Joaquim dos Santos 
> and Joanna? Izabel d’??.   30 July 1932??
>
>  
>
> Any help is much appreciated,  these are so hard to decipher,
>
>  
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-09-21 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Bill, thank you for this.  I see the ano corrente now.  I am confused by your 
note of finding Angelina C. Sousa of the right birth date and parents.  How 
does the name de Loura, (deLoria) fit in? 

Thanks for all your help,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Bill Seidler
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa 
Maria

It doesn't give the bride's age.  What you see as vinte um actually says ano 
corrente, com...

You have the groom's age correct.  His mother I see as Isabel de Jesus.

By the way, I found a Angelina C. Santos with the same date of birth (1 Apr 
1904) and same parents surnames (except de Loura is spelled deLoira) on the 
California death register: date 17 May 1991 in Orange, CA.

Bill

On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 4:52:47 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
I can make most of it out but; need help with the groom’s mother’s name.  
Starts on previous page but; what I need help with is the sidenote on the left 
page.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P79.html
 
Angelina da Conceicao Cabral marries in Vila do Porto, at the age of 21, 
Antonio dos Santos who is 24, single and the son of Jose Joaquim dos Santos and 
Joanna? Izabel d’??.   30 July 1932??
 
Any help is much appreciated,  these are so hard to decipher,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-09-20 Thread Bill Seidler 
It doesn't give the bride's age.  What you see as vinte um actually says 
ano corrente, com...

You have the groom's age correct.  His mother I see as Isabel de Jesus.

By the way, I found a Angelina C. Santos with the same date of birth (1 Apr 
1904) and same parents surnames (except de Loura is spelled deLoira) on the 
California death register: date 17 May 1991 in Orange, CA.

Bill

On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 4:52:47 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
>
> I can make most of it out but; need help with the groom’s mother’s name.  
> Starts on previous page but; what I need help with is the sidenote on the 
> left page.
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P79.html
>
>  
>
> Angelina da Conceicao Cabral marries in Vila do Porto, at the age of 21, 
> Antonio dos Santos who is 24, single and the son of Jose Joaquim dos Santos 
> and Joanna? Izabel d’??.   30 July 1932??
>
>  
>
> Any help is much appreciated,  these are so hard to decipher,
>
>  
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto,Santa Maria

2019-09-17 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Bill and Angela;  Just getting back to this.  Thank you both for the 
corrections.

As always, appreciate your time and knowledge,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Ângela Loura
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:38 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA)
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do 
Porto,Santa Maria

Hi Sam,

I agree with Bill

A terça, 17 de set de 2019, 03:12, Bill Seidler  escreveu:
Hi Sam,

I think he died in São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada (São Miguel Island) on 1 Aug of 
the current year.  The note appears to be dated 11 Aug 1961.

Bill

On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 5:46:12 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
Sidenote Sam again needs a bit of help.  Does the sidenote say he died 6 August 
1911 or 1961 or am I completely wrong?
Right hand page, Manoel, #14.  Does it say anything else important.  I can see 
the registry number.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P64.html
 
Thank you,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-09-17 Thread Ângela Loura 
Hi Sam,

I agree with Bill

A terça, 17 de set de 2019, 03:12, Bill Seidler 
escreveu:

> Hi Sam,
>
> I think he died in São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada (São Miguel Island) on 1
> Aug of the current year.  The note appears to be dated 11 Aug 1961.
>
> Bill
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 5:46:12 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
>>
>> Sidenote Sam again needs a bit of help.  Does the sidenote say he died 6
>> August 1911 or 1961 or am I completely wrong?
>>
>> Right hand page, Manoel, #14.  Does it say anything else important.  I
>> can see the registry number.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P64.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>> p.s. today is Mexico’s Independence day!
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-09-16 Thread Bill Seidler 
Hi Sam,

I think he died in São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada (São Miguel Island) on 1 
Aug of the current year.  The note appears to be dated 11 Aug 1961.

Bill

On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 5:46:12 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
>
> Sidenote Sam again needs a bit of help.  Does the sidenote say he died 6 
> August 1911 or 1961 or am I completely wrong?
>
> Right hand page, Manoel, #14.  Does it say anything else important.  I can 
> see the registry number.
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P64.html
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
>  
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
> p.s. today is Mexico’s Independence day!
>
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>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto,Santa Maria

2019-03-10 Thread bsei2816 
 No here it is...really,

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P20.html*
 
<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P20.html>


On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 7:55:47 PM UTC-8, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Here is that groom's baptism which confirms his father's name as Manuel 
> Ignacio (Inacio) de Moura.
>
> Bill
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 5:57:54 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Bill.  It really helps to get a second or third opinion.  I got 
>> most of it right! 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From: *bsei...@gmail.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 9, 2019 6:45 PM
>> *To: *Azores Genealogy
>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do 
>> Porto,Santa Maria
>>
>>  
>>
>> The first side note gives her name as Maria Rosa de Moura and say she 
>> married Antonio de Moura ; I think the date is 9 Feb 1920.  It says he is 
>> son of Manuel (Inacio is my best guess) de Moura and Jacinta Julia dos 
>> Santos.  The second not gives her name as Maria de Morais Moura and says 
>> she died, as you already stated, on 23 Nov 1949.  Her father's name (from 
>> the body of the record--not the side note) is Antonio Morais (Moraes) de 
>> Moura.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill Seidler
>>
>> On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 3:50:15 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P94.html
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bottom right, Maria.  Lots of questions on this one.  Apologies.
>>
>>  
>>
>>1. To me it looks like one side note says her name is Maria Roza and 
>>the other sidenote says Maria something that starts with an “M”.   
>>2. I think it says she married Antonio de Moura sometime in 1920 but; 
>>I can’t tell the exact date.  
>>3. Also Antonio’s parents are Manoel ? Moura and Jacintha Julia dos 
>>Santos, right? 
>>4. Maria died the 23rd of May 1949, correct?
>>5. Lastly, Maria’s dad was Antonio Moraes? Moura.  Is that right
>>
>>  
>>
>> Gratefully, Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto,Santa Maria

2019-03-09 Thread bsei2816 
Here is that groom's baptism which confirms his father's name as Manuel 
Ignacio (Inacio) de Moura.

Bill

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 5:57:54 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill.  It really helps to get a second or third opinion.  I got 
> most of it right! 
>
>  
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>  
>
> *From: *bsei...@gmail.com 
> *Sent: *Saturday, March 9, 2019 6:45 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do 
> Porto,Santa Maria
>
>  
>
> The first side note gives her name as Maria Rosa de Moura and say she 
> married Antonio de Moura ; I think the date is 9 Feb 1920.  It says he is 
> son of Manuel (Inacio is my best guess) de Moura and Jacinta Julia dos 
> Santos.  The second not gives her name as Maria de Morais Moura and says 
> she died, as you already stated, on 23 Nov 1949.  Her father's name (from 
> the body of the record--not the side note) is Antonio Morais (Moraes) de 
> Moura.
>
>  
>
> Bill Seidler
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 3:50:15 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P94.html
>
>  
>
> Bottom right, Maria.  Lots of questions on this one.  Apologies.
>
>  
>
>1. To me it looks like one side note says her name is Maria Roza and 
>the other sidenote says Maria something that starts with an “M”.   
>2. I think it says she married Antonio de Moura sometime in 1920 but; 
>I can’t tell the exact date.  
>3. Also Antonio’s parents are Manoel ? Moura and Jacintha Julia dos 
>Santos, right? 
>4. Maria died the 23rd of May 1949, correct?
>5. Lastly, Maria’s dad was Antonio Moraes? Moura.  Is that right
>
>  
>
> Gratefully, Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>  
>
>  
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto,Santa Maria

2019-03-09 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Thanks Bill.  It really helps to get a second or third opinion.  I got most of 
it right! 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto,Santa 
Maria

The first side note gives her name as Maria Rosa de Moura and say she married 
Antonio de Moura ; I think the date is 9 Feb 1920.  It says he is son of Manuel 
(Inacio is my best guess) de Moura and Jacinta Julia dos Santos.  The second 
not gives her name as Maria de Morais Moura and says she died, as you already 
stated, on 23 Nov 1949.  Her father's name (from the body of the record--not 
the side note) is Antonio Morais (Moraes) de Moura.

Bill Seidler

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 3:50:15 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P94.html
 
Bottom right, Maria.  Lots of questions on this one.  Apologies.
 
1. To me it looks like one side note says her name is Maria Roza and the other 
sidenote says Maria something that starts with an “M”.   
2. I think it says she married Antonio de Moura sometime in 1920 but; I can’t 
tell the exact date.  
3. Also Antonio’s parents are Manoel ? Moura and Jacintha Julia dos Santos, 
right? 
4. Maria died the 23rd of May 1949, correct?
5. Lastly, Maria’s dad was Antonio Moraes? Moura.  Is that right
 
Gratefully, Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-03-09 Thread bsei2816 
The first side note gives her name as Maria Rosa de Moura and say she 
married Antonio de Moura ; I think the date is 9 Feb 1920.  It says he is 
son of Manuel (Inacio is my best guess) de Moura and Jacinta Julia dos 
Santos.  The second not gives her name as Maria de Morais Moura and says 
she died, as you already stated, on 23 Nov 1949.  Her father's name (from 
the body of the record--not the side note) is Antonio Morais (Moraes) de 
Moura.

Bill Seidler

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 3:50:15 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P94.html
>
>  
>
> Bottom right, Maria.  Lots of questions on this one.  Apologies.
>
>  
>
>1. To me it looks like one side note says her name is Maria Roza and 
>the other sidenote says Maria something that starts with an “M”.   
>2. I think it says she married Antonio de Moura sometime in 1920 but; 
>I can’t tell the exact date.  
>3. Also Antonio’s parents are Manoel ? Moura and Jacintha Julia dos 
>Santos, right? 
>4. Maria died the 23rd of May 1949, correct?
>5. Lastly, Maria’s dad was Antonio Moraes? Moura.  Is that right
>
>  
>
> Gratefully, Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
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>
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> 
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