Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[JR]

This is very confusing. But fortunately both Manuel and Francisco come from 
same line. Which is the ancestor, Francisco or Manuel? :

*Ancestors of Francisco do Rego Vital*

 

 

*Generation No. 1*

 

*1.*  *Francisco do Rego Vital,* born Abt. 1837 in NS do Rosario da 
Lagoa.  She was the daughter of *2. Jacinto Jose do Rego Vital* and *3. 
Maria Clara*.  She married *(1) Rosa Emilia* 06 Aug 1863 in NS do Rosario 
da Lagoa.  She was born Abt. 1844 in NS do Rosario da Lagoa.  She was the 
daughter of Antonio Teixeira and Rosa Francisca.

 

*Generation No. 2*

 

*2.*  *Jacinto Jose do Rego Vital,* born Abt. 1795 in NS do Rosario, 
Lagoa.  He was the son of *4. Jose do Rego Vital or Rego Bitoes* and *5. 
Teresa de Jesus*.  He married *3. Maria Clara* 17 May 1820 in NS do Rosario, 
Lagoa.

*3.*  *Maria Clara,* born in NS do Rosario, Lagoa.  She was the 
daughter of *6. Joao da Costa* and *7. Rita de Pimentel*.



Children of Jacinto Rego Vital and Maria are:

  i.Antonio do Rego Vital, born in NS do 
Rosario, Lagoa; married Vitoria Clementina de Jesus 16 May 1842 in NS do 
Rosario, Lagoa; born in Mae de Deus, Povoacao.

 ii.Manuel do Rego Vital, born in NS do 
Rosario, Lagoa; married Jacinta Candida 23 May 1850 in NS do Rosario, 
Lagoa; born in NS do Rosario, Lagoa.

1   iii.Francisco do Rego Vital, born Abt. 1837 in 
NS do Rosario da Lagoa; married Rosa Emilia 06 Aug 1863 in NS do Rosario da 
Lagoa.

 

 

*Generation No. 3*

 

*4.*  *Jose do Rego Vital or Rego Bitoes,* born Abt. 1764 in NS do 
Rosario, Lagoa; died Bef. 17 May 1820.  He was the son of *8. Manuel do 
Rego* and *9. Josefa de Medeiros*.  He married *5. Teresa de Jesus* 05 Jun 
1788 in NS do Rosario, Lagoa.

*5.*  *Teresa de Jesus,* born Abt. 1765 in NS do Rosario, Lagoa.  
She was the daughter of *10. Joao de Freitas Rosa* and *11. Josefa da 
Encarnacao*.



Children of Jose Rego Vital or Rego Bitoes and Teresa are:

2 i.Jacinto Jose do Rego Vital, born Abt. 1795 
in NS do Rosario, Lagoa; married Maria Clara 17 May 1820 in NS do Rosario, 
Lagoa.



JR



On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 4:06:13 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Aaron P,
>
> Mel (over on Island Routes) has the Abergeldie leaving on Mar. 2, 1883 as 
> well. She has it arriving on May 5th or 10th. I've asked her to check for 
> typos. Lusaweb has the 10th.  Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:04 AM, Tenderwah  > wrote:
>
>> David and John;
>> I am sorry but I get my Manuel's mixed up sometimes, but my great 
>> father's first name was Francisco.
>> Middle name Rego, Vital. James Francis Nicolau researched an tells me 
>> Francisco was born October 23rd 1864, Sao Miguel,town Lagoa, Parrish 
>> Rosario. That's all I've got. Larry Vital.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[Cheri Mello]

Aaron P,

Mel (over on Island Routes) has the Abergeldie leaving on Mar. 2, 1883 as
well. She has it arriving on May 5th or 10th. I've asked her to check for
typos. Lusaweb has the 10th.  Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:04 AM, Tenderwah  wrote:

> David and John;
> I am sorry but I get my Manuel's mixed up sometimes, but my great father's
> first name was Francisco.
> Middle name Rego, Vital. James Francis Nicolau researched an tells me
> Francisco was born October 23rd 1864, Sao Miguel,town Lagoa, Parrish
> Rosario. That's all I've got. Larry Vital.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[Cheri Mello]

Aaron P,

Bob De Mello's book has 3 ships going to Hawaii in 1883:

Abergeldie, Jan. 1, 1883-Apr. 30, 1883
Hankow, April 30, 1883 - April 30, 1883
Bell Rock, Aug. 3, 1883 - Sept. 3, 1883.

I will change the Abergeldie's date in my copy of Bob De Mello's book to
read: March 2, 1883-April 30, 1883. Basically, 2 months. Don't know what to
do with the Hankow's dates though.  Cheri

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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:00 AM, Aaron Pereira 
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> Hello,
> Cheri is right, there is a typo.  The SS Abergeldie left port from Sao
> Miguel on March 2nd.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[Tenderwah]

David and John;
I am sorry but I get my Manuel's mixed up sometimes, but my great father's 
first name was Francisco.
Middle name Rego, Vital. James Francis Nicolau researched an tells me Francisco 
was born October 23rd 1864, Sao Miguel,town Lagoa, Parrish Rosario. That's all 
I've got. Larry Vital.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[Aaron Pereira]

Hello,
Cheri is right, there is a typo.  The SS Abergeldie left port from Sao Miguel 
on March 2nd.  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[Cheri Mello]

>From "Passport Registrations, Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
Isles, 1879-1883" by Bob De Mello, page 424:

Vital, Manuel do Rego, age 32
Father: Manuel do Rego
Mother: Jacinta Candida
>From Rosario, Lagoa
#1143 Abergeldie
No Come

The Abergeldie left Jan. 1, 1883 and arrived April 30, 1883.

I found his entry in the passaporte book, leaving the Azores.
1883, Feb. 14, Passaporte # 322, Passenger #1:143 (which Bob De Mello
transcribed as 1143). He's 32, single, can't write. The final column, which
asks for observations, says "Não foi," which Bob de Mello transcribes as
"No come." Ummm, then the whole ship didn't come. I would guess that there
weren't any observations to note, so "não foi" was written. Maybe a native
speaker can shed more light on this.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P137.html

Also, there's no way for Manuel to register in February if the Abergeldie
left on Jan. 1st. So something is wrong with this information.

In "Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii" compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.
page 381, it says he came on the Hankow in 1883. The Hankow did sail in
1883. I can't tell you the dates. The Bob De Mello said the Hankow sailed
April 30, 1883 and arrived April 30, 1883. I typo must have been made. The
only other thing the Knowlton book said was s40. I looked in the front of
the book and I don't know what this means.

So your Manuel was born c. 1850.  Here's his baptism in 1851:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851_item1/P390.html

Although you are in the 2nd time period, the priest does list the baby's
grandparents. Here are some key words to look for and some examples to get
you to pick out key parts:
https://goo.gl/4Tzc2i

His "neto paternal" looks like "Nepto Paterno." You should be able to pick
out names (they are capitalized). First the parents, then the paternal
grandparents, then the maternal grandparents.

Good luck, Cheri

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On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:56 PM, Tenderwah  wrote:

> Indeed,my great grandfathers full name was Manuel Rego Vital, from the
> Rosario Parrish. And the middle name of Rego was passed on to my
> grandfather as well.
> He settled in Oakland Calif. and had 3 sons, Frank,David, and Albert
> Wilbur Vital. My grandfather passed in 1938.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[Tenderwah]

Indeed,my great grandfathers full name was Manuel Rego Vital, from the Rosario 
Parrish. And the middle name of Rego was passed on to my grandfather as well.
He settled in Oakland Calif. and had 3 sons, Frank,David, and Albert Wilbur 
Vital. My grandfather passed in 1938. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

[David Perry]

I can provide some information on the Vital name in Lagoa.  Many Vital 
folks were at one time do Rego Baldaia way back in the 16th and 17th 
centuries.  Most of them became simply do Rego in the 1700s but there soon 
became so many in Lagoa (mostly Rosario parish) that many added a second 
name to the do Rego name, I'm guessing to distinguish one do Rego clan from 
another.  After all, with every first son having the name Manoel, there 
would be dozens of Manoel do Regos in town at any given time.  Some of the 
second names added were Coelho (my ancestors), Vital, Borges and others 
less common.  It's unclear to me where these second names came from since 
Coelho means rabbit in Portuguese.  Subsequent generations took one name or 
the other upon emigration.  For instance, in my family I have cousins using 
the name Rego and others using the name Coelho.  Hope this is useful.
David  

On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 3:03:26 PM UTC-7, Tenderwah wrote:

> If there is anyone out there who recognizes the last name. My great 
> grandfathers first name was Manual and he would have traveled with his 
> sons, and worked at a sugar cane plantation. My grandfather Manual Jr. 
> ,when he left Hawaii went on to Fall River/ New Bedford where he met my 
> grandmother Mary Medieras, and eventually moved to Oakland California 
> around 1915. What I am trying to do is find links to the Azores in whatever 
> ways there are.

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