[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Veterino? Bettencourt? Vieira? Oliveira?

2009-03-04 Thread LIONEL J HOLMES

Very true. I know of a  Bettencourt family from Sao Jorge whose children used 
Bettencourt, Vargas, Sousa, amd Silva -- all siblings with different surnames.

Lionel
--- On Wed, 3/4/09, cakemom...@aol.com  wrote:

> From: cakemom...@aol.com 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Veterino? Bettencourt? Vieira? Oliveira?
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 10:47 AM
> Nancy Jean, 
> I feel for you, but one thing that I have learned is that
> our ancestors  
> changed names like we change underwear.  Also, it is not
> uncommon for  children 
> from the same parents to go by different last names.  My 
> grandfather went by 
> Mendes and his brother by Azevedo and they have the same 
> parents.  Go figure.  
> My ggrandmother on my mother's side, gives  different
> combinations of names on 
> the baptismal records of some of her seven  children so
> does her husband.  
> The first names seem stable, it's the middle  and last
> names that change into 
> different combinations.  Maybe they want to  honor a
> certain part of their 
> family on that particular day.  Who  knows.
>  
> Mary Ann
>  
>  
> In a message dated 3/4/2009 9:15:55 A.M. Pacific Standard
> Time,  
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com writes:
> 
> Greetings Group,
> 
> I'm very confused.all these names! I  sent to Saint
> John the Baptist 
> Church in New Bedford for the marriage records  of two sets
> of my 
> GGrandparents..1888, AntonioTexiera Baptista (Sao 
> Jorge)and Maria Catherina Cabral (Santa 
> Maria).only surprise in those  records were the
> witnesses, apparently she 
> had a brother in this country so  that is a good clue to
> pursue.
> 
> My problem is my GGrandfather, my  Moms mothers father,
> Joseph Veterino, 
> (b.1863 Sao Jorge), he always  said that he was Joseph
> Veterino Bettencourt, and 
> my Mom has old pictures of  he and a brother who used the
> last name 
> Bettencourt. He married Frances Rose  Enos (b. 1868 or 69
> Sao Jorge)..who had a 
> brother, Frank Lemos, so I was  able to find her in the
> ships arriving and her real 
> name was Rosa Francisca  Lemos.
> 
> Next I found their civil marriage record in NEGHSJan 
> 7, 1893he's 29, 
> he gives his name as Jose Enos Victorino and his  fathers
> name as Thomazo de 
> Vieira and his mother is Anna Joaquinajust says  from
> Sao Jorge for both 
> he and Frances Rose.she gives her name as  Francisca
> Roza Lemosparents 
> Manuel Silveira Lemos and mother Anna  Bernarda.
> 
> So I asked St. Johns for the record of the marriage, I 
> mentioned that I 
> wanted to know parents names. They sent me the
> "Certificate  of Marriage" and a 
> letter with him listed as Jose Enos Victorino...Sao 
> Jorgeson of Thomas d' 
> Oliveira and Anna Joaquina. I have no idea now  who he
> really was! Her info 
> was the same as NEGHS had.
> 
> I'm at a  lossI have been looking at the Sao Jorge
> baptisms in the CCA 
> site for  1863not quite finished..
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> I know  that Frances Rose had a sister Anna Lemos who
> married a man named 
> Frank  Azevedo
> 
> 
> Joseph Veterino and Frances Rose, they lived on  Rockdale
> Ave. in New Bedford 
> and had:
> 8  children
> 
> George Veterinodied unmarried
> Clara .my  Grandmothermarried Emanuel Joseph Perry
> Frank  who  married..Clara Morris (Morais?)
> John married Anna Fernandes
> Joseph  married Stella ?
> Rose married Antone Gracia
> Frances married Fred  Salles
> Anna married George Smith
> 
> Can anyone connect with my  mystery family?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Nancy Jean  Baptiste
> 
>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Veterino? Bettencourt? Vieira? Oliveira?

2009-03-04 Thread Cakemom102
Nancy Jean, 
I feel for you, but one thing that I have learned is that our ancestors  
changed names like we change underwear.  Also, it is not uncommon for  children 
from the same parents to go by different last names.  My  grandfather went by 
Mendes and his brother by Azevedo and they have the same  parents.  Go figure.  
My ggrandmother on my mother's side, gives  different combinations of names on 
the baptismal records of some of her seven  children so does her husband.  
The first names seem stable, it's the middle  and last names that change into 
different combinations.  Maybe they want to  honor a certain part of their 
family on that particular day.  Who  knows.
 
Mary Ann
 
 
In a message dated 3/4/2009 9:15:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
fishsongf...@hotmail.com writes:

Greetings Group,

I'm very confused.all these names! I  sent to Saint John the Baptist 
Church in New Bedford for the marriage records  of two sets of my 
GGrandparents..1888, AntonioTexiera Baptista (Sao  Jorge)and Maria 
Catherina Cabral (Santa 
Maria).only surprise in those  records were the witnesses, apparently she 
had a brother in this country so  that is a good clue to pursue.

My problem is my GGrandfather, my  Moms mothers father, Joseph Veterino, 
(b.1863 Sao Jorge), he always  said that he was Joseph Veterino Bettencourt, 
and 
my Mom has old pictures of  he and a brother who used the last name 
Bettencourt. He married Frances Rose  Enos (b. 1868 or 69 Sao Jorge)..who 
had a 
brother, Frank Lemos, so I was  able to find her in the ships arriving and her 
real 
name was Rosa Francisca  Lemos.

Next I found their civil marriage record in NEGHSJan  7, 1893he's 29, 
he gives his name as Jose Enos Victorino and his  fathers name as Thomazo de 
Vieira and his mother is Anna Joaquinajust says  from Sao Jorge for both 
he and Frances Rose.she gives her name as  Francisca Roza Lemosparents 
Manuel Silveira Lemos and mother Anna  Bernarda.

So I asked St. Johns for the record of the marriage, I  mentioned that I 
wanted to know parents names. They sent me the "Certificate  of Marriage" and a 
letter with him listed as Jose Enos Victorino...Sao  Jorgeson of Thomas d' 
Oliveira and Anna Joaquina. I have no idea now  who he really was! Her info 
was the same as NEGHS had.

I'm at a  lossI have been looking at the Sao Jorge baptisms in the CCA 
site for  1863not quite finished..

Suggestions?

I know  that Frances Rose had a sister Anna Lemos who married a man named 
Frank  Azevedo


Joseph Veterino and Frances Rose, they lived on  Rockdale Ave. in New Bedford 
and had:
8  children

George Veterinodied unmarried
Clara .my  Grandmothermarried Emanuel Joseph Perry
Frank  who  married..Clara Morris (Morais?)
John married Anna Fernandes
Joseph  married Stella ?
Rose married Antone Gracia
Frances married Fred  Salles
Anna married George Smith

Can anyone connect with my  mystery family?


Thank you,
Nancy Jean  Baptiste

 

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