Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Hi Amy, I hope this works http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena&lang=pt&m=NG&n=antonio+simas+leal&t=PN Christine On Monday, January 14, 2013 6:22:44 PM UTC+10, Robert Ross wrote: > Hi Chris and Amy, > re: Jose Simas Leal (B. 1907) search on NEPS... > I compute my Gr Gr Grandfather Antonio Faria Costa (d. 9 Jan1884) with > Jose, successfully get a short path chart. Unfortunately, with illogical > entries between their generations. I mean some descendants seem to be born > before their ancestors. Maybe that is why the "Ancestors" and > "Relationships by marriage" searches show up as ERRORs. Good luck with YOUR > search, Bob > On Jan 12, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Chris Macedo > > wrote: > > oops! Amy, follow the address as given by Eric Edgar, I don't think mine > was complete. > christine > > > On Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:18:24 AM UTC+10, Chris Macedo wrote: > >> >> Amy, >> The Office of Births, Deaths and Marriges in NZ in the town or nearest >> city to where your gfather died will have the official records and you can >> ask them for a copy. I think they were about $25 per record when I applied >> for a copy of my birth cert..I was born in Wellinton so applied there. Ring >> your nearest office and ask what the procedure is. Your gfathers place >> of bith should be recorded on his death certificate because his place of >> birth should have been notifed of his death, that was and I think, is still >> the procedure. >> My grrandfather arrived in Dunedin somewhere around 1860-65 and his death >> cert. shows that he was born in Candelaria, Pico, Azores in 1840. I have a >> copy of that death cert. and a certified translation of his birth >> certificate, translated in Dunedin, and obtained from the NZ archives by >> my cousin. Maybe you should visit the titles office sometimes you will >> learn much more that way. My ggrandfather also used variations on his name, >> sometimes he was Jose de Andrade de Macedo and sometimes just known as Jose >> Macedo. >> Also have a look in the Madalena database of the Uminho. there is a Jose >> Leal Simas b 1907, he is related to my family and his father came from >> Lajes so you could look there. This family was also related to my family in >> Lajes so just maybe our ancestors knew each other. >> It is now 4 15 a.m. here In Brisbane so I wish you good luck and yes >> most certainly have the DNA done. >> >> regards, >> Christine Macedo >> >> >> On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:30:55 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >> >>> Thank you for everyone's input. I think I may have my dad tested with >>> the Family finder DNA. It is very confusing and not alot is know about this >>> side of the family and what is know is just here say. Where is the best >>> place to search for birth records? I have quite a few names which he has >>> used. He seems to have arrived in NZ as Jose de Simas or Jose Francisco de >>> Simas and then he has used Jose Leal De Simas and also Jose Silva De Simas >>> ( this is not in any official documents that I have come across, just here >>> say again). He passed away in NZ as Jose Leal De Simas. Also it is quite >>> possible he was born in Porto in Northern Portugal and moved to somewhere >>> in the Azores. I have also heard that his parent own a vineyard. Is there >>> anywhere in particular that I could search for records for Porto? >>> >>> Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help. >>> >>> Amy >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:25 PM UTC+13, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Hi All, I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be able to help me. My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. I am seeking any information about his life but particularly information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this information out. Anyone out there that can help me : Thanks Amy >>> > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+un...@googlegroup
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Hi Chris and Amy, re: Jose Simas Leal (B. 1907) search on NEPS... I compute my Gr Gr Grandfather Antonio Faria Costa (d. 9 Jan1884) with Jose, successfully get a short path chart. Unfortunately, with illogical entries between their generations. I mean some descendants seem to be born before their ancestors. Maybe that is why the "Ancestors" and "Relationships by marriage" searches show up as ERRORs. Good luck with YOUR search, Bob On Jan 12, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Chris Macedo wrote: > oops! Amy, follow the address as given by Eric Edgar, I don't think mine was > complete. > christine > > > On Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:18:24 AM UTC+10, Chris Macedo wrote: > > Amy, > The Office of Births, Deaths and Marriges in NZ in the town or nearest city > to where your gfather died will have the official records and you can ask > them for a copy. I think they were about $25 per record when I applied for a > copy of my birth cert..I was born in Wellinton so applied there. Ring your > nearest office and ask what the procedure is. Your gfathers place of bith > should be recorded on his death certificate because his place of birth should > have been notifed of his death, that was and I think, is still the procedure. > My grrandfather arrived in Dunedin somewhere around 1860-65 and his death > cert. shows that he was born in Candelaria, Pico, Azores in 1840. I have a > copy of that death cert. and a certified translation of his birth > certificate, translated in Dunedin, and obtained from the NZ archives by my > cousin. Maybe you should visit the titles office sometimes you will learn > much more that way. My ggrandfather also used variations on his name, > sometimes he was Jose de Andrade de Macedo and sometimes just known as Jose > Macedo. > Also have a look in the Madalena database of the Uminho. there is a Jose Leal > Simas b 1907, he is related to my family and his father came from Lajes so > you could look there. This family was also related to my family in Lajes so > just maybe our ancestors knew each other. > It is now 4 15 a.m. here In Brisbane so I wish you good luck and yes most > certainly have the DNA done. > > regards, > Christine Macedo > > > On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:30:55 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Thank you for everyone's input. I think I may have my dad tested with the > Family finder DNA. It is very confusing and not alot is know about this side > of the family and what is know is just here say. Where is the best place to > search for birth records? I have quite a few names which he has used. He > seems to have arrived in NZ as Jose de Simas or Jose Francisco de Simas and > then he has used Jose Leal De Simas and also Jose Silva De Simas ( this is > not in any official documents that I have come across, just here say again). > He passed away in NZ as Jose Leal De Simas. Also it is quite possible he was > born in Porto in Northern Portugal and moved to somewhere in the Azores. I > have also heard that his parent own a vineyard. Is there anywhere in > particular that I could search for records for Porto? > > Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help. > > Amy > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:25 PM UTC+13, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hi All, > > I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be > able to help me. > > My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is > unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or > Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I > think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could > be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and > left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I > think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed > from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this > mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver > Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose > Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de > Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. > > I am seeking any information about his life but particularly > information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents > or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this > information out. > > Anyone out there that can help me : > > Thanks > Amy > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe f
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Ok thank you. What about Silva de Simas? On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:40:35 PM UTC+13, JR wrote: > > I can tell you the Leal-Simas combination does not exist on Sao Miguel. > However, on PIco Island there are Simas and Leal. So my suggestion is to > look there. > > JR > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:48:06 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel > wrote: >> >> Hi Amy, >> >> This sounds like a tough one. The key to searching in the Acores and >> Portugal for that matter is to know what Freguesia (town) and Parish your >> ancestor came from in the case there is more than one parish in a town. >> What >> information do you have about the whaling ship Jeannette did you find him >> on >> a crew list. The Acores and the whaling industry are entwined in that >> Atlantic whalers would stop in the Acores for supplies and hire crew to >> work >> on the ship. Many of the crew men would then leave the ship when it >> reached >> port in New England. The term "Jumped Ship" means that the person left >> the >> ship without completing his contract or obligation. When he left the >> ship >> at the end of the voyage with his pay in hand is different than jumping >> ship. So it is possible that your ancestor did this and after spending >> some >> time and his money in New Bedford he went back to work on the Jeannette >> and >> disembarked in Australia. This is all speculation on my part and what is >> needed is a paper trail that would reveal a Freguesia in the Acores or on >> the mainland of Portugal. >> >> Another possibility is to use DNA testing and look for a match with a >> proven >> line to the Acores or in Portugal. >> >> Rick >> >> Richard Francis Pimentel >> Spring, TX >> Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire >> >> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and >> Ponta >> Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores >> -----Original Message----- >> From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of >> amy...@xtra.co.nz >> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 2:43 AM >> To: Azores Genealogy >> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De >> Simas >> / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas >> >> Hi All, >> >> I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be able >> to >> help me. >> >> My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is >> unknown >> at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or Azores >> region >> (this is second hand information from a relative). I think he was born >> approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could be as late as 1836 but >> this doesn't match age on documents I have) and left Portugal on a >> whaling >> ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I think I have narrowed down >> the >> whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed from New Bedford in 1842 and he >> was >> listed as a boy (what does this mean?). He lived in Australia for a while >> then sailed on the Oliver Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed >> his name from Jose Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or >> Jose >> Silva de Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. >> >> I am seeking any information about his life but particularly information >> about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents or an exact >> location of his birth but would love to find this information out. >> >> Anyone out there that can help me : >> >> Thanks >> Amy >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right >> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." >> >> -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Hi, Yes the Francisco De Simas is the one I found also. The information that I have from a relative that has now passed is that he left Portugal as a teenager so this does fit. He seemed to think that he ran away from his family rather then just leaving. On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:18:17 PM UTC+13, NancyC wrote: > > Amy, the City of New Bedford's Official Website contains crew lists for > whaling vessels, which you probably have already discovered. It is > possible to search by ship's name. > http://www.newbedford-ma.gov/Library/Whaling/Whaling.html > > I found Francisco de Simas listed as a Boy in the voyage of the Jeannette > departing in 1842. I think the Boy is usually very young. Notice he did > not receive a "lay" (a share of the income from the voyage). Since he > isn't listed as leaving the vessel, he probably stayed on the ship until it > returned to New Bedford in 1845. Notice that his first name is given as > Francisco rather than Jose. Are you sure this is the right person? > > Good luck with this. > > Nancy > > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancis...@comcast.net > wrote: > >> Hi Amy, >> >> This sounds like a tough one. The key to searching in the Acores and >> Portugal for that matter is to know what Freguesia (town) and Parish your >> ancestor came from in the case there is more than one parish in a town. >> What >> information do you have about the whaling ship Jeannette did you find him >> on >> a crew list. The Acores and the whaling industry are entwined in that >> Atlantic whalers would stop in the Acores for supplies and hire crew to >> work >> on the ship. Many of the crew men would then leave the ship when it >> reached >> port in New England. The term "Jumped Ship" means that the person left the >> ship without completing his contract or obligation. When he left the ship >> at the end of the voyage with his pay in hand is different than jumping >> ship. So it is possible that your ancestor did this and after spending >> some >> time and his money in New Bedford he went back to work on the Jeannette >> and >> disembarked in Australia. This is all speculation on my part and what is >> needed is a paper trail that would reveal a Freguesia in the Acores or on >> the mainland of Portugal. >> >> > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
I can tell you the Leal-Simas combination does not exist on Sao Miguel. However, on PIco Island there are Simas and Leal. So my suggestion is to look there. JR On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:48:06 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: > > Hi Amy, > > This sounds like a tough one. The key to searching in the Acores and > Portugal for that matter is to know what Freguesia (town) and Parish your > ancestor came from in the case there is more than one parish in a town. > What > information do you have about the whaling ship Jeannette did you find him > on > a crew list. The Acores and the whaling industry are entwined in that > Atlantic whalers would stop in the Acores for supplies and hire crew to > work > on the ship. Many of the crew men would then leave the ship when it > reached > port in New England. The term "Jumped Ship" means that the person left the > ship without completing his contract or obligation. When he left the ship > at the end of the voyage with his pay in hand is different than jumping > ship. So it is possible that your ancestor did this and after spending > some > time and his money in New Bedford he went back to work on the Jeannette > and > disembarked in Australia. This is all speculation on my part and what is > needed is a paper trail that would reveal a Freguesia in the Acores or on > the mainland of Portugal. > > Another possibility is to use DNA testing and look for a match with a > proven > line to the Acores or in Portugal. > > Rick > > Richard Francis Pimentel > Spring, TX > Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire > > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and > Ponta > Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > -Original Message- > From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of > amy...@xtra.co.nz > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 2:43 AM > To: Azores Genealogy > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De > Simas > / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas > > Hi All, > > I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be able to > help me. > > My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is unknown > at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or Azores > region > (this is second hand information from a relative). I think he was born > approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could be as late as 1836 but > this doesn't match age on documents I have) and left Portugal on a whaling > ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I think I have narrowed down the > whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed from New Bedford in 1842 and he was > listed as a boy (what does this mean?). He lived in Australia for a while > then sailed on the Oliver Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed > his name from Jose Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose > Silva de Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. > > I am seeking any information about his life but particularly information > about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents or an exact > location of his birth but would love to find this information out. > > Anyone out there that can help me : > > Thanks > Amy > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+un...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation > directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Amy, the City of New Bedford's Official Website contains crew lists for whaling vessels, which you probably have already discovered. It is possible to search by ship's name. http://www.newbedford-ma.gov/Library/Whaling/Whaling.html I found Francisco de Simas listed as a Boy in the voyage of the Jeannette departing in 1842. I think the Boy is usually very young. Notice he did not receive a "lay" (a share of the income from the voyage). Since he isn't listed as leaving the vessel, he probably stayed on the ship until it returned to New Bedford in 1845. Notice that his first name is given as Francisco rather than Jose. Are you sure this is the right person? Good luck with this. Nancy On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Amy, > > This sounds like a tough one. The key to searching in the Acores and > Portugal for that matter is to know what Freguesia (town) and Parish your > ancestor came from in the case there is more than one parish in a town. > What > information do you have about the whaling ship Jeannette did you find him > on > a crew list. The Acores and the whaling industry are entwined in that > Atlantic whalers would stop in the Acores for supplies and hire crew to > work > on the ship. Many of the crew men would then leave the ship when it reached > port in New England. The term "Jumped Ship" means that the person left the > ship without completing his contract or obligation. When he left the ship > at the end of the voyage with his pay in hand is different than jumping > ship. So it is possible that your ancestor did this and after spending some > time and his money in New Bedford he went back to work on the Jeannette and > disembarked in Australia. This is all speculation on my part and what is > needed is a paper trail that would reveal a Freguesia in the Acores or on > the mainland of Portugal. > > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Hi Amy, This sounds like a tough one. The key to searching in the Acores and Portugal for that matter is to know what Freguesia (town) and Parish your ancestor came from in the case there is more than one parish in a town. What information do you have about the whaling ship Jeannette did you find him on a crew list. The Acores and the whaling industry are entwined in that Atlantic whalers would stop in the Acores for supplies and hire crew to work on the ship. Many of the crew men would then leave the ship when it reached port in New England. The term "Jumped Ship" means that the person left the ship without completing his contract or obligation. When he left the ship at the end of the voyage with his pay in hand is different than jumping ship. So it is possible that your ancestor did this and after spending some time and his money in New Bedford he went back to work on the Jeannette and disembarked in Australia. This is all speculation on my part and what is needed is a paper trail that would reveal a Freguesia in the Acores or on the mainland of Portugal. Another possibility is to use DNA testing and look for a match with a proven line to the Acores or in Portugal. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of amy@xtra.co.nz Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 2:43 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas Hi All, I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be able to help me. My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. I am seeking any information about his life but particularly information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this information out. Anyone out there that can help me : Thanks Amy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Dear Listers: I hope you can help Amy out, for I suggested she join our group. Just my opinion, but I've always found the rootsweb message boards (from whence she came) to be minimally helpful at best. Denis On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:43 AM, amy@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hi All, > > I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be > able to help me. > > My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is > unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or > Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I > think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could > be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and > left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I > think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed > from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this > mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver > Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose > Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de > Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. > > I am seeking any information about his life but particularly > information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents > or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this > information out. > > Anyone out there that can help me : > > Thanks > Amy > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Hi All, I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be able to help me. My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. I am seeking any information about his life but particularly information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this information out. Anyone out there that can help me : Thanks Amy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
