Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
What are his parents names? I'll give a try. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Lyn S/B, If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos on 1 Jan 1830. I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But you can look, nevertheless. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents names and that's what your looking for. Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is SILVEIRA, and of course Silva. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote: What are his parents names? I'll give a try. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Lyn S/B, If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos on 1 Jan 1830. I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But you can look, nevertheless. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Lyn, I've worked on many Azores to Australia and New Zealand families. I agree with Cheri on this. Joseph doesn't know who his parents were, so there is no family to pursue in Flores. Santa Cruz and Lajes are the two concelhos of Flores, meaning he could be born anywhere on the island. Going on a needle in a haystack search for a baptism record with no more information than you already have can't help. Jose Silveira is one of the most common male names in the Azores, so it would be difficult to determine when you had the right person. I'd think it would be better to work through the Trove site to find more news articles that establish his life in Australia. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?l-availability=yq=dias%20francis Eric Edgar On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote: Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents names and that's what your looking for. Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is SILVEIRA, and of course Silva. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.comwrote: What are his parents names? I'll give a try. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Lyn S/B, If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos on 1 Jan 1830. I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But you can look, nevertheless. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Lyn, I found these records in Flores. I don't know if you can read them but there is one very very close of what you wrote. The only question is if read somewhere he was actually Filho de pais não sabidos then none of these will serve you, but if that's not the case and you simply don't know his parents name, and he is Silveira, then there was a very close one. Around the dates you wrote these are the closest Josephs I found. STA CRUZ http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P47.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P57.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1797-1833/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1797-1833_item1/P107.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P18.html JOSE 03 JAN 1830 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P19.html *JOSE DA SILVEIRA 1830* http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P20.html JOSE DA SILVEIRA 1829 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839_item1/P57.html Take care! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:53 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Lyn, I've worked on many Azores to Australia and New Zealand families. I agree with Cheri on this. Joseph doesn't know who his parents were, so there is no family to pursue in Flores. Santa Cruz and Lajes are the two concelhos of Flores, meaning he could be born anywhere on the island. Going on a needle in a haystack search for a baptism record with no more information than you already have can't help. Jose Silveira is one of the most common male names in the Azores, so it would be difficult to determine when you had the right person. I'd think it would be better to work through the Trove site to find more news articles that establish his life in Australia. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?l-availability=yq=dias%20francis Eric Edgar On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote: Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents names and that's what your looking for. Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is SILVEIRA, and of course Silva. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.comwrote: What are his parents names? I'll give a try. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: Lyn S/B, If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos on 1 Jan 1830. I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But you can look, nevertheless. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are
[AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Azores Genealogy *** Hello. I hope someone can help me. I have been trying to get above this part of my Silva, Ancestry. for 8 years, now. But each time I get to my Great Great Grandfather, Joseph Silva, I hit a brick wall. I have been told his Parents names, but, each time I check this out. the answers don't seem to fit. So I am asking for some help to find his Fathers and His Mothers Name. Sadly on his marriage certificate it is written Parents Unknown. All his descendants are in place on my Ancestry. All his Children, their Children , and down the line even to my great Grandson. Below is the info I have on my Ancestry.com.au Cheers Lyn Silva/Budden ** Joseph SilvaYour 2nd great grandfatherBirth 1 Jan 1830 in Santa Cruz ou Lajes. Flores, The Azores. Death *Living*javascript:$TreesFunc.LivingModal.show(); Death 7 July 1896 in Maryborough, Victoria, Australia Joseph Silvaria M, #29097 ** 1846 — Age: 16MassachusettsMaine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont until 1855 Then came to Australia where he married and had many children.x15, I believe. 1855. 19 Feb— Age: 25Captain Samuel Gore. Sorrento, Victoria. Australia.February 19.-White Swallow, U.S. ship, 1192 tons. Samuel Gore, from Boston 21st November .Fix this text No passengers. Captain Gore, agent Clover and Edwards, agents Then came to Australia where he married and had many children.15, I believe. 1869 26 Feb— Age: 39Jones's Creek .The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. Friday 26 February 1869 Page 5, list of New Insolvents - Joseph Silva, Jones's Creek, miner. Causes of insolvency-Illness, want of employment, and losses in mining. Liabilities, £85 14s. ; assets, £3 7s. 0d. ; deficiency, £82 0s, 1870 — Age: 40Carisbrook, Victoria, AustraliaAustralia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Joseph Silver Name: Joseph Silver [Joseph Silva] Spouse Name: Catherine (Rogan) Brogan. Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1870 Registration number: 3950 ***1896 7 Jul— Age: 66Maryborough, Victoria, Australia . Joseph Died from an abcess on the lung. http://www.chestnut-blue.com/Chestnut-o/i62.htm#s3223 Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Jos Silveria Name: Jos Silveria Death Place: Maryborough, Victoria Age: 66 Registration Year: 1896 Regi ** javascript:$trees.MediaObjects['ctl43_ctl04_mediaObjects_ctl03_mediaObject'].clickPhoto(); -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Lyn S/B, If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos on 1 Jan 1830. I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But you can look, nevertheless. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
