[AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores
This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. Very interesting. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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E, What an intriguing story! Thanks for the link. (If only the world's people could understand, underneath it all, we are all one/from one..) Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:50 AM To: azores Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. Very interesting. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Very interesting. I never heard a thing about it.It brings to mind how DNA testing, especially male y-DNA testing, can help resolve this type of question when the article ends with: “I can still feel the presence of the Jews here,” I said, to no one in particular.“Yes,” said one of the women from the tourism board. “It is here. In us. I think we are all descended from them.”It would be so interesting to be able to discover the origins of the population from the early 1500s in the Azores.Sometimes we learn the names of people who were born maybe as early as the 1520s, but often with very plain names like Manuel Rodrigues or Antonio da Silva.Was this remote ancestor one of these New Christians? Y-DNA testing might be the only possible hope to answer that question.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Genealogist916-550-1618 Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores From: "\"E\" Sharp" bellema...@gmail.com Date: Wed, January 02, 2013 3:50 am To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. Very interesting. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ "E" -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Doug, I agree with your comment. Dad On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Very interesting. I never heard a thing about it. It brings to mind how DNA testing, especially male y-DNA testing, can help resolve this type of question when the article ends with: “I can still feel the presence of the Jews here,” I said, to no one in particular. “Yes,” said one of the women from the tourism board. “It is here. In us. I think we are all descended from them.” It would be so interesting to be able to discover the origins of the population from the early 1500s in the Azores. Sometimes we learn the names of people who were born maybe as early as the 1520s, but often with very plain names like Manuel Rodrigues or Antonio da Silva. Was this remote ancestor one of these New Christians? Y-DNA testing might be the only possible hope to answer that question. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Genealogist 916-550-1618 Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores From: \E\ Sharp bellema...@gmail.com Date: Wed, January 02, 2013 3:50 am To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. Very interesting. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ E -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores
Two of my ancestors are mentioned. But I already have a photo of the cemetery that another member posted a while back which had their names listed. - Shirl - This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Hi All, E, great article.thank you for sending it. Sounds very beautiful in the synagogue and I hope they're able to get the funds to refurbish and support it in the future. Doug, regarding DNA testing, I'm not sure that it can be clear yet to a full extent for everyone. One reason I had mine tested was this very question. My Pereira mother had always been told she looked jewishwhatever that means and she mentioned it throughout her life. Another reason was my Dad's family worked in Taunton doing silversmithing in the factory and in David Gitlitz's book, Secracy and Deceit, The Religion of the Crypo-Jews, he mentions a group of possible crypto-jews/new christians there. Since it was my Dad's DNA I needed for Taunton I had my brother tested and got Dad's E1b1b2a which is found in the Berber tribes in Morocco and Algiers. From history I knew that there had been many opportunities through the centuries for my male line to have moved from North Africa to Portugal, Spain and the Azores. In his matches are some Sephardic Jews and a few of Ashkenazi. Proves nothing but is insightful and intriguing. With my Mom's I had my MtDNA and it was an H3..99.9% H3. H is the most common DNA in Europe. Butsome of her matches are to Sephardic Jews around the world. I then had my Uncle tested to get my paternal grandmothers DNAU5athe Sami People from the north and the steppes, one of the oldest of the DNA's. I have no conclusive evidence of descending from novo christians.but knowing my genealogy in Portugal and Spain before coming to the Azores with the earliest settlers on a couple of my lines, some of my surnames and my familial customs, my intuition tells me they're back there. Nancy Jean Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:01:06 -0800 From: shirl.sere...@frontier.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores To: azores@googlegroups.com Two of my ancestors are mentioned. But I already have a photo of the cemetery that another member posted a while back which had their names listed. - Shirl - This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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My Jewish side came from Algiers and then Morocco before moving to Terceira. They were Sephardic Jews. Some are buried in the Jewish Cemetery in Terceira. - Shirl - From: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com E, great article.thank you for sending it. Sounds very beautiful in the synagogue and I hope they're able to get the funds to refurbish and support it in the future. One reason I had mine tested was this very question. My Pereira mother had always been told she looked jewishwhatever that means and she mentioned it throughout her life. Another reason was my Dad's family worked in Taunton doing silversmithing in the factory and in David Gitlitz's book, Secracy and Deceit, The Religion of the Crypo-Jews, he mentions a group of possible crypto-jews/new christians there. Since it was my Dad's DNA I needed for Taunton I had my brother tested and got Dad's E1b1b2a which is found in the Berber tribes in Morocco and Algiers. From history I knew that there had been many opportunities through the centuries for my male line to have moved from North Africa to Portugal, Spain and the Azores. In his matches are some Sephardic Jews and a few of Ashkenazi. Proves nothing but is insightful and intriguing. With my Mom's I had my MtDNA and it was an H3..99.9% H3. H is the most common DNA in Europe. Butsome of her matches are to Sephardic Jews around the world. I then had my Uncle tested to get my paternal grandmothers DNAU5athe Sami People from the north and the steppes, one of the oldest of the DNA's. I have no conclusive evidence of descending from novo christians.but knowing my genealogy in Portugal and Spain before coming to the Azores with the earliest settlers on a couple of my lines, some of my surnames and my familial customs, my intuition tells me they're back there. Nancy Jean Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:01:06 -0800 From: shirl.sere...@frontier.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores To: azores@googlegroups.com Two of my ancestors are mentioned. But I already have a photo of the cemetery that another member posted a while back which had their names listed. - Shirl - This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Nancy, my father was a Pereira from Sao Miguel, Azores and he and his brothers always used to joke that they were Jewish though I've found no evidence of that going back to the 1700's. Interesting stuff. David On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 2:51:57 PM UTC-8, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Hi All, E, great article.thank you for sending it. Sounds very beautiful in the synagogue and I hope they're able to get the funds to refurbish and support it in the future. Doug, regarding DNA testing, I'm not sure that it can be clear yet to a full extent for everyone. One reason I had mine tested was this very question. My Pereira mother had always been told she looked jewishwhatever that means and she mentioned it throughout her life. Another reason was my Dad's family worked in Taunton doing silversmithing in the factory and in David Gitlitz's book, Secracy and Deceit, The Religion of the Crypo-Jews, he mentions a group of possible crypto-jews/new christians there. Since it was my Dad's DNA I needed for Taunton I had my brother tested and got Dad's E1b1b2a which is found in the Berber tribes in Morocco and Algiers. From history I knew that there had been many opportunities through the centuries for my male line to have moved from North Africa to Portugal, Spain and the Azores. In his matches are some Sephardic Jews and a few of Ashkenazi. Proves nothing but is insightful and intriguing. With my Mom's I had my MtDNA and it was an H3..99.9% H3. H is the most common DNA in Europe. Butsome of her matches are to Sephardic Jews around the world. I then had my Uncle tested to get my paternal grandmothers DNAU5athe Sami People from the north and the steppes, one of the oldest of the DNA's. I have no conclusive evidence of descending from novo christians.but knowing my genealogy in Portugal and Spain before coming to the Azores with the earliest settlers on a couple of my lines, some of my surnames and my familial customs, my intuition tells me they're back there. Nancy Jean Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:01:06 -0800 From: shirl@frontier.com javascript: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Two of my ancestors are mentioned. But I already have a photo of the cemetery that another member posted a while back which had their names listed. - Shirl - This is a very interesting article about Jews in the Azores. http://sdjewishjournal.com/site/4648/jewish-azores/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
