[AZORES-Genealogy] new to the group/100% Azorean grandparents,

2012-06-14 Thread fsouz...@comcast.net
My four grandparents were all from Sao Miquel, and while I have been able 
to find some information about the ones on my mom's side, I have had less 
success on the other side which ironically has more living relatives in it. 
 Anyway, here goes,

My mother was names Alzira Margarida Machado and her parents were from 
Lagoa.  She still has relatives there and I met her first cousin five years 
ago who still lives in the house my grandfather Jao Faria Machado grew up 
in on Rua das Furnas.  My grandmother grew up in the same neighborhood and 
her name was Maria DaCarmo Andrade/Andre.  She had a sister named Maria 
Augusta who married Jose Faria (grandfather's first cousin)  They all came 
to the US in the 1920's and from what I can deduce through the port of 
Boston.

My father's family is more complex-there were 9 adult children and only 
some lived nearby-there is still one left who is soon to be 91.  The 
marriage record shows them as marrying in Fall River, so we don't know if 
they met here or already knew each other, but we suspect it was here.  His 
name was Manuel deSouza  aka Manuel Sousa Miquelina and the marriage 
certificate lists his birth place as San Vincente in Sao Miquel,  She is 
listed as Maria Izabel Rocha aka Isabel Rocha and a birthplace of Santo 
Antonio in Sao Miquel.  

Does anyone have a connection or information that might be helpful with any 
of them or how to find info.  I did learn on my trip, that Lagoa has its 
own dept of records, but the other two would probably be available in Ponta 
Delgada, but when I tried to get info there, it was impossible to get 
anywhere in the only 3 days we were in town.  Suggestions??

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] new to the group/100% Azorean grandparents,

2012-06-14 Thread Frederick Souza
Thank you for this information.  I will research the dates a bit--I am pretty 
sure that the grandparents on my fathers side were 1875 and 1879, and on my 
mother's 1890 and 1892.  All of them are buried nearby, so I will visit the 
gravesights to try to narrow this down.

I appreciate you writing back,

Fred Souza
On Jun 14, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:

 FSouza,
 
 You have names and places, but didn't post any dates.  You mention people 
 coming to America in the 1920s.  I'm going to assume that these people were 
 born before 1910 or so.
 
 Records older than 100 years are held at the regional archive.  For Sao 
 Miguel, that's in Ponta Delgada.  Sao Miguel has microfilm from the beginning 
 of what exists up to 1800 or 1883 in some freguesias.  So you only need to 
 cover the gap between 1880 and 1920.  
 
 The address for Ponta Delgada (and for the other 2 archives for those who 
 want to know) is here: http://goo.gl/rd0Gs
 
 There is also a link for a sample form letter at the top.
 
 Some Sao Miguel records are starting to come online.  There are some for 
 Lagoa that go up to 1905: 
 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/?serie=0ilha=2concelho=15
 
 Sao Vicente Ferreira and Santo Antonio (if you are talking about freguesias 
 and not churches) are both in the council (county) of Ponta Delgada.  Those 
 records are not online.  So if your ancestors were born after the early 
 1880s, you will have to write (link provided above).
 
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
 Achada
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] new to the group/100% Azorean grandparents,

2012-06-14 Thread bellemarco

FSouza,

Is this your family on the 1910 Fall River, Ward 7, Bristol Co. MA census

Surname is misspelled to MICHAELEAN

Manuel S. Michaelean 34 (so born ca 1876) b. Portugal, came to US 1885;  
Mary I. 28 (born abt. 1882) b. Portugal came to US 1881, married 11 years,  
8 children born, 6 children living, Manuel J. 10, Mary 8, Joseph 5, Frank  
4, John 1 yr. 11 mos, Antone 5 mos. All children born in the US.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] new to the group/100% Azorean grandparents,

2012-06-14 Thread Frederick Souza
lots of those names are accurate, but I think the birthdates may be too young.  
I will take this to the cemetery to see if I find birthdates for Mary and John
Thank you
On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:08 PM, bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

 FSouza, 
 
 Is this your family on the 1910 Fall River, Ward 7, Bristol Co. MA census 
 
 Surname is misspelled to MICHAELEAN 
 
 Manuel S. Michaelean 34 (so born ca 1876) b. Portugal, came to US 1885; Mary 
 I. 28 (born abt. 1882) b. Portugal came to US 1881, married 11 years, 8 
 children born, 6 children living, Manuel J. 10, Mary 8, Joseph 5, Frank 4, 
 John 1 yr. 11 mos, Antone 5 mos. All children born in the US. 
 
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Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] new to the group/100% Azorean grandparents,

2012-06-14 Thread bellemarco

I think this may be the parents ??-

Ship's Manifest - Peninsular sailing from Sao Miguel to New York arriving  
5/26/1900.


Manuel de Sousa Miquelina 58, (if in US before - yes 1897), Jacintha de  
Sousa 39, Marianna 24, Marianna 20 (yes 2 named Marianna) . They are going  
to their son Manuel de Sousa Miquelina living in Fall River. I also found  
them in the 1910 US Census Manuel 69, Jessie J. 49, Mary AC 19. I am not  
sure if the 1900 records are on the CCA site or not.


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