Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
My Medeiros also were from Pico. Eventually, dropping Medeiros and ending up with Machado. Originally settling in Massachusetts and after WWII immigrating to California. In a message dated 4/23/2013 4:11:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@dholmes.com writes: Great point, Gayle. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: Gayle Machado _goodwnos@aol.com_ (mailto:goodw...@aol.com) Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 4:01 pm To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Doug, Betty and others, Excuse me for dropping into the middle of a conversion, but there is both a blessing and a danger in generalizing. Just to offer a cautionary counterexample to one of the points listed this previous message: my grandmother was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in Massachusetts (not California) around 1898. It was only after the end of WWII that they started to migrate out to the West Coast. By then, many of them had changed the spelling to Madeiros. Gayle On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:48 PM, _pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com) wrote: Hi Betty, Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell. If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though. About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel. However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico. So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros. You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha. You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura. On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages. I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros). I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. That should get you off to a decent start. Boa sorte (good luck)! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: Betty _bbffrrpp@comcast.net_ (mailto:bbffr...@comcast.net) Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Hi Doug, For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children. The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, were with her, and I can't locate the older children. One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is that most of them just say born
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
Hi Betty, I'm very interested in your work on the Portuguese in Lowell. My grandfather's family lived there for a number or years. He has family buried in Catholic Cemetery. I plan to make a trip there in the future get more information. Please email me outside the group at ro...@lightspeed.net Doreen Caetano -Original Message- From: p...@dholmes.com Sent: Apr 23, 2013 3:48 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island Hi Betty, Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell. If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though. About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel. However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico. So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros. You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha. You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura. On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages. I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros). I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. That should get you off to a decent start. Boa sorte (good luck)! Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown IslandFrom: "Betty" bbffr...@comcast.netDate: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pmTo: azores@googlegroups.comHi Doug,For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, were with her, and I can't locate the older children.One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is that most of them just say born Portugal.I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry. Doug just mentioned that many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?, came from.Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)P.S.About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my husband's ancestors. He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico. She and Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born there. But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel.By the way, the surviving children were: Manuel, Elzira "Elsie," Ernesto "Frank," Rosa, and Carolina. (in that order) I read that Ernesto and Anna MOURA went back to the Azores during 1950's; is it possible they died there? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Jo
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
Betty, The 1900 census for Mary Medeiros and children from Cambridge http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Viewr=andbid=7602iid=004113842_00251fn=Frankln=Medeirosst=dssrc=pid=6130947 her childrens marriage records all show their father as Felix Medeiros, mother Mary Miranda Christina Medeiros https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11620-80072-56?cc=1469062wc=6961559 Manuel Felix Medeiros https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11694-59441-42?cc=1469062wc=6961460 Erminia ? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12387-97112-52?cc=1469062wc=6961556 The 1910 census shows her sister Alice Miranda who arrived 1902 http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Viewr=andbid=7884iid=3_4330077-00572fn=Frankln=Medeirosst=dssrc=pid=109621835 No island shown. can't find their arrival. Eric Edgar On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:16 AM, rondo ranch ro...@lightspeed.net wrote: Hi Betty, I'm very interested in your work on the Portuguese in Lowell. My grandfather's family lived there for a number or years. He has family buried in Catholic Cemetery. I plan to make a trip there in the future get more information. Please email me outside the group at ro...@lightspeed.net Doreen Caetano -Original Message- From: p...@dholmes.com Sent: Apr 23, 2013 3:48 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island Hi Betty, Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell. If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though. About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel. However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico. So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros. You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha. You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura. On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages. I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros). I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. That should get you off to a decent start. Boa sorte (good luck)! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: Betty bbffr...@comcast.net Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Doug, For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children. The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, were with her, and I can't locate the older children. One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is that most of them just say born Portugal. I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry. Doug just mentioned
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
But Hermano, where's the fun if we don't ruffle some feathers?!It's the spice of life.:-)Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: "Hermano C. Pires" lagoe...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:28 pm To: "azores@googlegroups.com" azores@googlegroups.com Hi I just have to pipe in here and add my two cents worthInSaudades da Terra it states that with some of the first settlers in the Azores, the Medeiros clan settled in the area of Alagoa (Lagoa), S. Miguel.Thereis a multitude of Medeiros in S. Miguel since that time.I hope this doesn' ruffle anybody's feathers :))Hermano -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
Hi Betty,Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though.About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel.However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros.You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura.On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages.I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros).I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.That should get you off to a decent start.Boa sorte (good luck)!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: "Betty" bbffr...@comcast.net Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Doug, For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree.(actually his father's cousin)He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children. The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 3 children were born here.It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, were with her, and I can't locate the older children. One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, Victor, b1862.Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859.The problem is that most of them just say born Portugal. I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry.Doug just mentioned that many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?, came from. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my husband's ancestors.He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico.She and Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born there.But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel. By the way, the surviving children were: Manuel, Elzira "Elsie," Ernesto "Frank," Rosa, and Carolina. (in that order) I read that Ernesto and Anna MOURA went back to the Azores during 1950's; is it possible they died there? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
Doug, Betty and others, Excuse me for dropping into the middle of a conversion, but there is both a blessing and a danger in generalizing. Just to offer a cautionary counterexample to one of the points listed this previous message: my grandmother was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in Massachusetts (not California) around 1898. It was only after the end of WWII that they started to migrate out to the West Coast. By then, many of them had changed the spelling to Madeiros. Gayle On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:48 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Betty, Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell. If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though. About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel. However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico. So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros. You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha. You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura. On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages. I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros). I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. That should get you off to a decent start. Boa sorte (good luck)! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: Betty bbffr...@comcast.net Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Doug, For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children. The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 3 children were born here.It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, were with her, and I can't locate the older children. One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is that most of them just say born Portugal. I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry. Doug just mentioned that many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?, came from. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my husband's ancestors. He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico. She and Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born there. But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel. By the way, the surviving children were: Manuel, Elzira Elsie, Ernesto Frank, Rosa, and Carolina. (in that order) I read that Ernesto and Anna MOURA went back to the Azores during 1950's; is it possible they died there? -- For options, such
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
Great point, Gayle.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: Gayle Machado goodw...@aol.com Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 4:01 pm To: "azores@googlegroups.com" azores@googlegroups.com Doug, Betty and others,Excuse me for dropping into the middle of a conversion, but there is both a blessing and a danger in generalizing. Just to offer a cautionary counterexample to one of the points listed this previous message: my grandmother was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in Massachusetts (not California) around 1898. It was only after the end of WWII that they started to migrate out to the West Coast. By then, many of them had changed the spelling to Madeiros.GayleOn Apr 23, 2013, at 3:48 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:Hi Betty,Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though.About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel.However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros.You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura.On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages.I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros).I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.That should get you off to a decent start.Boa sorte (good luck)!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: "Betty" bbffr...@comcast.net Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Doug, For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children. The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, were with her, and I can't locate the older children. One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is that most of them just say born Portugal. I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry. Doug just mentioned that many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?, came from. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my husband's ancestors. He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico. She and Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born there. But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel. By the way, the surviving children were: Manuel, Elzira &quo
