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Then I don't know what to say. My Aunt gave me this info. She is now 94 years old and in a convalescent hospital. I did look at the San Francisco newspapers when I was in Sacramento many years ago. In one of the papers it listed a ship AUSTRALIA arriving from Hawaii on 27 Dec. 1887. Thanks for your info. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Bay Bridge opened the year before. In 1887 there were no bridges on San Francisco Bay. Eric On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: Now I am wondering if it was the Bay Bridge. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Shirley, I guess that story lost something in translation. The Golden Gate Bridge was built in 1937. Eric On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: No, I don't have any census from Hawaii. Her marriage certificate says that she was a native of Hawaii, T. H. My cousin told me that when she took her parents to Maui, my aunt told her that that was where grandma was born. I do know that they arrived in California from Hawaii, on 27 Dec. 1887, as her brother Manuel was born that day underheath the Golden Gate Bridge That is all that I know. If you would like the names of her and her parents, I can send you that info. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were
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Hope I don't step on anyone's toes, and it is probably not my place to say, but could we please change the subject line. I don't want to miss something that might help me, but I also start deleting when the subject isn't changed. Gwen -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Actually, when it's this far off topic, DON'T change the subject line, but start a NEW email. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Also if you go there and the records aren't there, check with the actual church. I had them look for a marriage for a relative who married in San Francisco in 1868 and they said they found none. I wrote to the Church and they had the original document there, copied it and mailed it to me. I been trying for two years to get down to Menlo Park, but every time I have a trip to California they are closed. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: No, I don't have any census from Hawaii. Her marriage certificate says that she was a native of Hawaii, T. H. My cousin told me that when she took her parents to Maui, my aunt told her that that was where grandma was born. I do know that they arrived in California from Hawaii, on 27 Dec. 1887, as her brother Manuel was born that day underheath the Golden Gate Bridge That is all that I know. If you would like the names of her and her parents, I can send you that info. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.**comazores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..**CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally
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Shirley, I guess that story lost something in translation. The Golden Gate Bridge was built in 1937. Eric On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: No, I don't have any census from Hawaii. Her marriage certificate says that she was a native of Hawaii, T. H. My cousin told me that when she took her parents to Maui, my aunt told her that that was where grandma was born. I do know that they arrived in California from Hawaii, on 27 Dec. 1887, as her brother Manuel was born that day underheath the Golden Gate Bridge That is all that I know. If you would like the names of her and her parents, I can send you that info. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.**comazores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..**CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's
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Now I am wondering if it was the Bay Bridge. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Shirley, I guess that story lost something in translation. The Golden Gate Bridge was built in 1937. Eric On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: No, I don't have any census from Hawaii. Her marriage certificate says that she was a native of Hawaii, T. H. My cousin told me that when she took her parents to Maui, my aunt told her that that was where grandma was born. I do know that they arrived in California from Hawaii, on 27 Dec. 1887, as her brother Manuel was born that day underheath the Golden Gate Bridge That is all that I know. If you would like the names of her and her parents, I can send you that info. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone
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Bay Bridge opened the year before. In 1887 there were no bridges on San Francisco Bay. Eric On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: ** Now I am wondering if it was the Bay Bridge. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:12 AM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Shirley, I guess that story lost something in translation. The Golden Gate Bridge was built in 1937. Eric On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: No, I don't have any census from Hawaii. Her marriage certificate says that she was a native of Hawaii, T. H. My cousin told me that when she took her parents to Maui, my aunt told her that that was where grandma was born. I do know that they arrived in California from Hawaii, on 27 Dec. 1887, as her brother Manuel was born that day underheath the Golden Gate Bridge That is all that I know. If you would like the names of her and her parents, I can send you that info. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.**comazores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..**CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves
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Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria. Marie moved back east right after her marriage, had 3 children and died of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone?? Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept proding me to go and search. Merry Christmas to you all, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores
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No, I don't have any census from Hawaii. Her marriage certificate says that she was a native of Hawaii, T. H. My cousin told me that when she took her parents to Maui, my aunt told her that that was where grandma was born. I do know that they arrived in California from Hawaii, on 27 Dec. 1887, as her brother Manuel was born that day underheath the Golden Gate Bridge That is all that I know. If you would like the names of her and her parents, I can send you that info. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria
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Dear Prima Susan, Thanks so much for getting the info straight for Tish! I should have thought of you and asked for clarification before I gave the info to Trish. Mr. Burns at the Archives was very helpful, he asks what records you want and goes and gets them. I didn't have very good luck with my digital but if I could have figured out how to turn off the flash, I might have done better!! LOL I'm so techno challenged that I had to have Mr. Burns figure out how to turn on my husbands cell phone for me! Really clueless Tish, take Susan's advise and make the trip. I only looked for the marriages but the baptisms were on the same film. I may eventually go back and get the info on the kids although I have most of it from their other siblings. Good Luck! Rosemarie Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria. Marie moved back east right after her marriage, had 3 children and died of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone?? Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept proding me to go and search. Merry Christmas to you all, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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Rosemarie and Susan, Thank you for the updated information. Rosemarie, after the holidays maybe I can meet you at the Archives. My husband and I have photographed all of the Santa Maria, Santa Barbara parish, baptism, marriage and obits from the Family Center. We are pretty proficient and have the equipment to do a pretty good job. We would be happy to photograph your stuff while looking for our info. Thanks so much, Tish On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:11 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Prima Susan, Thanks so much for getting the info straight for Tish! I should have thought of you and asked for clarification before I gave the info to Trish. Mr. Burns at the Archives was very helpful, he asks what records you want and goes and gets them. I didn't have very good luck with my digital but if I could have figured out how to turn off the flash, I might have done better!! LOL I'm so techno challenged that I had to have Mr. Burns figure out how to turn on my husbands cell phone for me! Really clueless Tish, take Susan's advise and make the trip. I only looked for the marriages but the baptisms were on the same film. I may eventually go back and get the info on the kids although I have most of it from their other siblings. Good Luck! Rosemarie Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria. Marie moved back east right after her marriage, had 3 children and died of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone?? Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept proding me to go and search. Merry Christmas to you all,
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Dear Tish, Thanks so much for the offer but I work and it was hard for me to get up there this time! I wrote down the info and my pics can probably be adjusted, just that they aren't very good! I appreciate the offer and good luck with your search. Rosemarie Rosemarie and Susan, Thank you for the updated information. Rosemarie, after the holidays maybe I can meet you at the Archives. My husband and I have photographed all of the Santa Maria, Santa Barbara parish, baptism, marriage and obits from the Family Center. We are pretty proficient and have the equipment to do a pretty good job. We would be happy to photograph your stuff while looking for our info. Thanks so much, Tish On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:11 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Prima Susan, Thanks so much for getting the info straight for Tish! I should have thought of you and asked for clarification before I gave the info to Trish. Mr. Burns at the Archives was very helpful, he asks what records you want and goes and gets them. I didn't have very good luck with my digital but if I could have figured out how to turn off the flash, I might have done better!! LOL I'm so techno challenged that I had to have Mr. Burns figure out how to turn on my husbands cell phone for me! Really clueless Tish, take Susan's advise and make the trip. I only looked for the marriages but the baptisms were on the same film. I may eventually go back and get the info on the kids although I have most of it from their other siblings. Good Luck! Rosemarie Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria. Marie moved back east right after her marriage, had 3 children and died of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone??
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I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria. Marie moved back east right after her marriage, had 3 children and died of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone?? Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept proding me to go and search. Merry Christmas to you all, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
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Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria. Marie moved back east right after her marriage, had 3 children and died of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone?? Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept proding me to go and search. Merry Christmas to you all, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig
