Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
it says they're were married and naturals of Sao Sebastiao, living in
Ribeira Seca.

Margaret Vicente


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not sure maybe someone else can make it out all I see it says after
 Francisco and Rita is Ribeira secca and Sao Sebastiao


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 Thank you Pam does it say where the parents were from or a age or
 anything I want to search for a baptism record for them.
 Thank you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-05 Thread Cheri Mello
The age would be stated in the 3rd period of marriages.  Or is that 2nd
period?  It's not in any of the baptisms.

Here's an old post explaining the 3 periods and the 3 events (baptism,
marriage, death) and what to find in each record.

The post starts with Ruy and then in my post, I answer, citing Joao
Ventura, the archivist in the Azores.
http://goo.gl/AZ3Cqu

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-04 Thread Pam Santos
Paternal is Manuel Machado Esteves and Maria Magadalena and maternal Joao
Machado Luis? and Rita Candida. Godparents where Maternal grandparents


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 Im trying to translate now thank you Margaret for finding it I was only 5
 away from finding it lol but atleast I know I was looking in the right
 spot. I see the filho legitimo Francisco Machado Esteves and Maria Rita but
 I cant make out anything else here is the link if anyone can help
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P212.html
  I
 will try to find Franks fathers record thank you everyone for your help.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-04 Thread Courtney L
Thank you Pam does it say where the parents were from or a age or anything 
I want to search for a baptism record for them.
Thank you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-04 Thread Pam Santos
Not sure maybe someone else can make it out all I see it says after
Francisco and Rita is Ribeira secca and Sao Sebastiao


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 Thank you Pam does it say where the parents were from or a age or anything
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-03 Thread Courtney L


 Im trying to translate now thank you Margaret for finding it I was only 5 
 away from finding it lol but atleast I know I was looking in the right 
 spot. I see the filho legitimo Francisco Machado Esteves and Maria Rita but 
 I cant make out anything else here is the link if anyone can help 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P212.html
  I 
 will try to find Franks fathers record thank you everyone for your help.

Thank you 
Courtney Luis 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-02 Thread pico
Courtney,You found some distant cousins named Esteves.I don't think most people would care about such distant cousins enough to trace them, but if you want practice, it will lead to your own Esteves line once you get into the 1600s.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves
From: Courtney L courtneylui...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, September 01, 2013 9:33 pm
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I found one record that said Esteves here is the link http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1890-1899_item1/P237.htmlIm not positive if it is the right one or not.Thank youCourtney Luis




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Ilha = Island
Concelho = Council (like American counties)
Freguesia = freguesia.  It doesn't translate properly. It's the village.

The organization can be found in my How To that I've posted.  Here it is
again:
goo.gl/HXmQPB

30+ pages.  You really need to read this.  Over and over again, as there is
a lot of information in it.  If you have your freguesia (village) though,
you only need the 2nd or the 3rd part.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Courtney,

Again, you need to READ this about how to trace your ancestors:
goo.gl/HXmQPB

You DID NOT find your ancestor's naturalization record.  You found an index
card.  If you read the section on naturalization, you will see you need to
order the naturalization packet from the USCIS.

You will need to figure out which Francisco is yours coming into America.
Since you were on the CCA site, reading the records of a particular
freguesia, you should be concentrating on that freguesia. And that
Francisco coming to America is yours.




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 Wait that wouldn't make sense for it to be his cousin if they had the same
 name for their father hmm I don't really know then that is very weird here
 is the two passenger list if anyone can think of why their might be 2
 Francisco Machado Esteves coming to the states both in June 1920. Do you
 guys think their parents would name them the same thing?

 Thank you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Courtney,

You didn't state if you found your Francisco's birth record.  In case you
didn't here is the link
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P212.html

Margaret Vicente


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Courtney,

 Again, you need to READ this about how to trace your ancestors:
 goo.gl/HXmQPB

 You DID NOT find your ancestor's naturalization record.  You found an
 index card.  If you read the section on naturalization, you will see you
 need to order the naturalization packet from the USCIS.

 You will need to figure out which Francisco is yours coming into America.
 Since you were on the CCA site, reading the records of a particular
 freguesia, you should be concentrating on that freguesia. And that
 Francisco coming to America is yours.




 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Courtney L courtneylui...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Wait that wouldn't make sense for it to be his cousin if they had the
 same name for their father hmm I don't really know then that is very weird
 here is the two passenger list if anyone can think of why their might be 2
 Francisco Machado Esteves coming to the states both in June 1920. Do you
 guys think their parents would name them the same thing?

 Thank you
 Courtney Luis

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-02 Thread Courtney L
Sorry Margaret I was going through the records but had to go help harvest 
so I was busy with that and had to stop and was just going to start going 
through them again but thank you so much for finding it. 
Thank you 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Courtney L,

Which record?  Number 5, left bottom for Joao?  He's the son of Manuel
Esteves Ferreira and Maria Emilia, paternal grandson of Joao Esteves
Ferreira and Delfina Julia and maternal grandson of Agostinho Goncalves
Duarte and Josefa de Jesus.

I can't tell you if it's the right one or not.  You'll have to decide based
on your family names.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-01 Thread Courtney L


 Nope that's not right thanks for translating it though. That's the only 
 Esteves I found for his birth year.

Thank you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Courtney L,

You also search one year before and one year after.  And then expand based
on other information you may have on him.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Esteves/Steves

2013-09-01 Thread Pam Santos
Or check two years before the date you have. I have found more than once
that relatives will state they were born 1867 but when I find baptism its 2
yrs earlier in 1865


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 Courtney L,

 You also search one year before and one year after.  And then expand based
 on other information you may have on him.



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