RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Hi Celeste. Do you mind to confirm me if we have the same data/information on the family of João Morais da Costa and Jacinta Libânia? (PS - I have not posted online the notes) Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva “Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. Folha do Grupo de Família de João Morais da Costa e Jacinta Libânia.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Cristo
Yes, Eliseu, I looked for Maria Cristo in the village where her father was born. No luck. Thank you for all your help years ago when I was searching for ancestors. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Wed, 1/9/19, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Cristo To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2019, 4:20 AM Hi Celeste! Have you looked for Maria Cristo in Água de Pau, Lagoa? There is a couple in which the groom was born there. His name is João Morais da Costa and he married to a Jacinta Libânia at Lomba de Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande in 10.11.1867... Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay gold!” Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo) (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) Eliseu -Mensagem original- De: 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy Enviada: 9 de janeiro de 2019 02:28 Para: Azores List Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Cristo I can't seem to find the immigration document I copied for her from Ancestry.com. I no longer subscribe to Ancestry. I have her listed as arriving in Boston, July 31, 1909; she is listed as Maria Moraes and 25 years old, and the ship was Crotic. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Cristo
Hi Celeste! Have you looked for Maria Cristo in Água de Pau, Lagoa? There is a couple in which the groom was born there. His name is João Morais da Costa and he married to a Jacinta Libânia at Lomba de Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande in 10.11.1867... Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay gold!” Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo) (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) Eliseu -Mensagem original- De: 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy Enviada: 9 de janeiro de 2019 02:28 Para: Azores List Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Cristo I can't seem to find the immigration document I copied for her from Ancestry.com. I no longer subscribe to Ancestry. I have her listed as arriving in Boston, July 31, 1909; she is listed as Maria Moraes and 25 years old, and the ship was Crotic. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Sorry, Cheri. I have been trying to find Maria Cristo's immigration record. Seems I have put it "in a safe place" and can't find it right now. I will continue to look through my files for it. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Tue, 1/8/19, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 9:42 AM What did Maria Cristo's naturalization or Alien Registration say? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:40 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Thank you, Teresa. So far, I have found all of the family being born and living in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel until they migrated to the U.S. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:51 AM Hi Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria? Morais is a common name there as is Pereira. Theresa On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal grandmother's birth. Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line. I have all the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal grandmother. I call her the elusive "Maria Cristo." I went to the church in RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin note that says she was baptized and where it occurred. There is no such note. Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY Generation No. 1 1. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index. He was the son of 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS. He married (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA. She was born 03 May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA, USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward. She was the daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA. Generation No. 2 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico, Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA da ASCENSAO. He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz. 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). She was the daughter of 6. JOAO MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA. Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS: 4/15/2015: I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel. Joao Ventura has also done this search. In addition, I have searched through all the records of the villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as Maria Christo's parents. My thought was that Maria Christo may have been raised by the family she though was her biological family and was the child of someone else in the family. I have not found her in any of these searches. As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that will give me proof of her birth to the family to which she believed she belonged. 1/12/2017: Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to look for any information that she gave when she married in 1909. I have found that the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not sure when she arrived in the US. Children of FELIPE and MARIA are: i. Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA. 1 ii. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index; married ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Hi Celeste, Please Ask my cousin Bob to please get "Er Done!" DNA that is of course. I have mine done up to Big Y. He should be interested to see how we compare. Dot also had her's done. And I had her brother's done to Big Y also. Dot and I now live in Peoria, Arizona, moved here 6 months ago. I have been working on Bob and my cousins who descend from those in your file. I was surprised to find the Cruz family who also lived in Arizona and have made some additions on them in my file now. Regards and Love to all. Cousin Emil Researching: Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, Terceira, Brazil, United States and Canada. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
E, I thought that might be it; however, all of the records had the same writing on them. Since my husband is the oldest grandson of this marriage, we do not have any of her "papers." The rest of the family does not seem to be at all interested in documenting her birth place. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Tue, 1/8/19, E" Sharp wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: "azores" Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 9:42 AM Celeste, Happy New Year! "Copy sent" probably means you or someone else requested a copy of the marriage at one time or another. "E" On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:37 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: They were married in Bristol, R.I. on Nov. 24, 1907 at St. Mary's Church. I saw the church record of the marriage when I visited St. Mary's this summer. There was written in the entry (and the other entries of that page) that said, "Copy sent." I asked what that meant and the person to whom I spoke did not know. I thought maybe it was a copy of the marriage that had been sent to the Diocese or back to the Azores. I went to the diocese office and was told there were no records there of this type. I do have a marriage certificate signed by Asst. Pastor, Clyde J. Walsh on March 3, 1953, (when I began the search of the marriage.) Maria Cristo and her husband, Filippe P. Da Silva (aka, Philip Perreira Da Silva or Felipe Pereira da Silva; Felippe Silva and/or Philip Perry) lived with Maria Cristo's brother, Seraphine Morais (Morris), at 15 Estabrook St. Bristol, R.I. in the 1910 census they were still at 15 Estabrook St., Bristol, RI. and Maria Cristo's mother, Jacintha Libiana, lived there too. In the 1920 census, they lived at the same address with Jose Perry. In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St., E. Providence, R.I. Thank you for any help you can give me in finding "The elusive Maria Cristo's birth record. In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St. E. Providence, RI. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com ------------------------ On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:41 PM Can I get the details of their marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Celeste, Happy New Year! "Copy sent" probably means you or someone else requested a copy of the marriage at one time or another. "E" On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:37 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > They were married in Bristol, R.I. on Nov. 24, 1907 at St. Mary's Church. > I saw the church record of the marriage when I visited St. Mary's this > summer. There was written in the entry (and the other entries of that > page) that said, "Copy sent." I asked what that meant and the person to > whom I spoke did not know. I thought maybe it was a copy of the marriage > that had been sent to the Diocese or back to the Azores. > I went to the diocese office and was told there were no records there of > this type. > > I do have a marriage certificate signed by Asst. Pastor, Clyde J. Walsh on > March 3, 1953, (when I began the search of the marriage.) > > Maria Cristo and her husband, Filippe P. Da Silva (aka, Philip Perreira Da > Silva or Felipe Pereira da Silva; Felippe Silva and/or Philip Perry) lived > with Maria Cristo's brother, Seraphine Morais (Morris), at 15 Estabrook St. > Bristol, R.I. in the 1910 census they were still at 15 Estabrook St., > Bristol, RI. and Maria Cristo's mother, Jacintha Libiana, lived there too. > > In the 1920 census, they lived at the same address with Jose Perry. > > In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St., E. Providence, R.I. > > Thank you for any help you can give me in finding "The elusive Maria > Cristo's birth record. > > > In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St. E. Providence, RI. > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:41 PM > > Can I get the details of their > marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank you > > -- > You received this message > because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores > Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from > this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email > to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
DNA has not been done. I am still working on getting my husband to agree to do the DNA. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:56 AM What does the DNA say? On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal grandmother's birth. Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line. I have all the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal grandmother. I call her the elusive "Maria Cristo." I went to the church in RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin note that says she was baptized and where it occurred. There is no such note. Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY Generation No. 1 1. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index. He was the son of 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS. He married (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA. She was born 03 May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA, USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward. She was the daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA. Generation No. 2 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico, Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA da ASCENSAO. He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz. 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). She was the daughter of 6. JOAO MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA. Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS: 4/15/2015: I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel. Joao Ventura has also done this search. In addition, I have searched through all the records of the villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as Maria Christo's parents. My thought was that Maria Christo may have been raised by the family she though was her biological family and was the child of someone else in the family. I have not found her in any of these searches. As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that will give me proof of her birth to the family to which she believed she belonged. 1/12/2017: Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to look for any information that she gave when she married in 1909. I have found that the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not sure when she arrived in the US. Children of FELIPE and MARIA are: i. Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA. 1 ii. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index; married ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA. iii. Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; married Margaret Roark Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA. iv. John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08 Apr 1916 in East Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI, USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI. v. Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born Aft. 1921 in East Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000 in RI, USA; married Pauline Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915 in /Lena. Any help in “documenting” her birth is what I need. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
What did Maria Cristo's naturalization or Alien Registration say? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:40 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Thank you, Teresa. So far, I have found all of the family being born and > living in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel until they migrated to the U.S. > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:51 AM > > Hi > Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria? Morais > is a common name there as is Pereira. Theresa > On Mon, Jan > 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores > Genealogy > wrote: > > > I have been looking for a document that validates my > husband's paternal grandmother's birth. > > > > Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, > paternal line. I have all the information except the birth > (baptism) of his paternal grandmother. I call her the > elusive "Maria Cristo." I went to the church in > RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin > note that says she was baptized and where it occurred. > There is no such note. > > > > Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East > Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, > CA, USA/CA death index. He was the son of 2. FELIPE > PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS. He married > (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East > Providence, RI, USA. She was born 03 May 1912 in East > Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward, > CA, USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward. She was the daughter > of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in > Soldao, Lajes, Pico, Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San > Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). He > was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA > GLORIA da ASCENSAO. He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 > Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz. > > 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da > Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died > 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy > Sepulchre, Hayward). She was the daughter of 6. JOAO > MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA. > > Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS: > > 4/15/2015: I have searched through all the baptismal > records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao > Miguel. Joao Ventura has also done this search. In > addition, I have searched through all the records of the > villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a > "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as Maria > Christo's parents. My thought was that Maria Christo > may have been raised by the family she though was her > biological family and was the child of someone else in the > family. I have not found her in any of these searches. > As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that > will give me proof of her birth to the family to which she > believed she belonged. > > 1/12/2017: Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI > and asked them to look for any information that she gave > when she married in 1909. I have found that the > information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not > sure when she arrived in the US. > > Children of FELIPE and MARIA are: > > i.Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East > Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, > Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East > Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA; > died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA. > > 1ii.SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug > 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los > Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index; married ADELINA (LENA) > CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA. > > iii.Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in > East Providence, RI, USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in > Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; married Margaret Roark > Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1913 in > East Providence, RI, USA. > > iv.John (Johnny) Pereira-da
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Thank you, Teresa. So far, I have found all of the family being born and living in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel until they migrated to the U.S. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:51 AM Hi Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria? Morais is a common name there as is Pereira. Theresa On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal grandmother's birth. Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line. I have all the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal grandmother. I call her the elusive "Maria Cristo." I went to the church in RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin note that says she was baptized and where it occurred. There is no such note. Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY Generation No. 1 1. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index. He was the son of 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS. He married (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA. She was born 03 May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA, USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward. She was the daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA. Generation No. 2 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico, Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA da ASCENSAO. He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz. 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). She was the daughter of 6. JOAO MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA. Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS: 4/15/2015: I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel. Joao Ventura has also done this search. In addition, I have searched through all the records of the villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as Maria Christo's parents. My thought was that Maria Christo may have been raised by the family she though was her biological family and was the child of someone else in the family. I have not found her in any of these searches. As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that will give me proof of her birth to the family to which she believed she belonged. 1/12/2017: Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to look for any information that she gave when she married in 1909. I have found that the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not sure when she arrived in the US. Children of FELIPE and MARIA are: i. Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA. 1 ii. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index; married ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA. iii. Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; married Margaret Roark Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA. iv. John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08 Apr 1916 in East Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI, USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI. v. Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born Aft. 1921 in East Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000 in RI, USA; married Pauline Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915 in /Lena. Any help in “documenting” her birth is what I need. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
They were married in Bristol, R.I. on Nov. 24, 1907 at St. Mary's Church. I saw the church record of the marriage when I visited St. Mary's this summer. There was written in the entry (and the other entries of that page) that said, "Copy sent." I asked what that meant and the person to whom I spoke did not know. I thought maybe it was a copy of the marriage that had been sent to the Diocese or back to the Azores. I went to the diocese office and was told there were no records there of this type. I do have a marriage certificate signed by Asst. Pastor, Clyde J. Walsh on March 3, 1953, (when I began the search of the marriage.) Maria Cristo and her husband, Filippe P. Da Silva (aka, Philip Perreira Da Silva or Felipe Pereira da Silva; Felippe Silva and/or Philip Perry) lived with Maria Cristo's brother, Seraphine Morais (Morris), at 15 Estabrook St. Bristol, R.I. in the 1910 census they were still at 15 Estabrook St., Bristol, RI. and Maria Cristo's mother, Jacintha Libiana, lived there too. In the 1920 census, they lived at the same address with Jose Perry. In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St., E. Providence, R.I. Thank you for any help you can give me in finding "The elusive Maria Cristo's birth record. In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St. E. Providence, RI. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:41 PM Can I get the details of their marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
What does the DNA say? On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal > grandmother's birth. > > Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line. I have > all the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal > grandmother. I call her the elusive "Maria Cristo." I went to the church > in RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin note that > says she was baptized and where it occurred. There is no such note. > > Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY > Generation No. 1 > 1. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, > USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index. He was > the son of 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS. He > married (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, > USA. She was born 03 May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 > Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA, USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward. She was the > daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA. > Generation No. 2 > 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico, > Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, > Hayward). He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA > da ASCENSAO. He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol, > RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz. > 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara, > Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, > CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). She was the daughter of 6. JOAO > MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA. > Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS: > 4/15/2015: I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da > Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel. Joao Ventura has also done this > search. In addition, I have searched through all the records of the > villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose > grandparents were the same as Maria Christo's parents. My thought was that > Maria Christo may have been raised by the family she though was her > biological family and was the child of someone else in the family. I have > not found her in any of these searches. As of this date, I continue to > follow any leads I find that will give me proof of her birth to the family > to which she believed she belonged. > 1/12/2017: Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to > look for any information that she gave when she married in 1909. I have > found that the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not > sure when she arrived in the US. > Children of FELIPE and MARIA are: > i.Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self; > died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz > Sr Bef. 1937 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, > USA; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA. > 1ii.SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East > Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death > index; married ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, > RI, USA. > iii.Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in East Providence, RI, > USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; > married Margaret Roark Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. > 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA. > iv.John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08 Apr 1916 in East > Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda > Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI, USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI. > v.Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born Aft. 1921 in East > Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000 in RI, USA; married Pauline > Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915 in /Lena. > > Any help in “documenting” her birth is what I need. > > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Hi Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria? Morais is a common name there as is Pereira. Theresa On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal > grandmother's birth. > > Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line. I have > all the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal > grandmother. I call her the elusive "Maria Cristo." I went to the church > in RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin note that > says she was baptized and where it occurred. There is no such note. > > Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY > Generation No. 1 > 1. SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, > USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death index. He was > the son of 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS. He > married (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, > USA. She was born 03 May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 > Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA, USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward. She was the > daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA. > Generation No. 2 > 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico, > Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, > Hayward). He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA > da ASCENSAO. He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol, > RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz. > 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara, > Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, > CA, USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). She was the daughter of 6. JOAO > MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA. > Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS: > 4/15/2015: I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da > Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel. Joao Ventura has also done this > search. In addition, I have searched through all the records of the > villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose > grandparents were the same as Maria Christo's parents. My thought was that > Maria Christo may have been raised by the family she though was her > biological family and was the child of someone else in the family. I have > not found her in any of these searches. As of this date, I continue to > follow any leads I find that will give me proof of her birth to the family > to which she believed she belonged. > 1/12/2017: Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to > look for any information that she gave when she married in 1909. I have > found that the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not > sure when she arrived in the US. > Children of FELIPE and MARIA are: > i.Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self; > died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz > Sr Bef. 1937 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, > USA; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA. > 1ii.SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East > Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA, USA/CA death > index; married ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, > RI, USA. > iii.Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in East Providence, RI, > USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; > married Margaret Roark Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. > 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA. > iv.John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08 Apr 1916 in East > Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda > Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI, USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI. > v.Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born Aft. 1921 in East > Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000 in RI, USA; married Pauline > Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915 in /Lena. > > Any help in “documenting” her birth is what I need. > > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
This couple is in my tree. Here’s the link to their marriage, right side, # 11 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-C-1860-1869/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-C-1860-1869_item1/P58.html Margaret From: Mike B Sent: January 7, 2019 9:41 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" Can I get the details of their marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Can I get the details of their marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
Yes, I did find the marriage for Maria Cristo's parents. I make a notation in my FTM file by adding ** after an event to help me remember that I have a copy of the document for the event. I have documents for all the baptisms, marriages and almost all the deaths going back to the beginning of the church records for this family. When one of her sister's died in Mass. she left "$100.00 to my sister, Mary Perry, in Oakland, CA." From the baptism records I have and the fact that Maria Cristo lived in Oakland, CA at the time of her sister's death, I believe the family "thought" she was a biological member of this family. I just don't have the birth document to "prove" it. It has been awhile since I worked on Maria Cristo's birth. I was told by her daughter (the oldest of five children) that her mother (Maria Cristo) was 5 years old when her father, Joao Moraes da Costa died. So, I looked in each village that "touched" where her family lived for Maria Cristo's birth. (I thought maybe her mother had been visiting in nearby village when she was born). No luck there. Also, Maria Cristo had a younger brother who also immigrated to the U.S. I have had contact with one of this brother's great grandson and he has not found a baptism for Maria Cristo in his research. I am hoping a relative of this family will find something about Maria Cristo, so I post on this list once a year and hope to find the information I have been searching for over 20 years! I appreciate any and all the help this list has provided since it began. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B wrote: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 5:20 PM We’re you able to find a marriage record for Joao Morais Da Costa and Jacinth Libania in Lomba da Santa Barbara? These are the parents of Maria Cristo Morais if I’m following it correctly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Celeste, I just shared a ship's list with you coming from Ancestry. Is this them??? "E" Celeste, I just shared a ship's list with you coming from Ancestry. Is this them?? "E" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Yes, Nancy, the information you sent does match the information about Maria's family. I found baptismal records in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel that matches her siblings. Seraphine was her brother, the family with whom I found her living in one of the Census. I did find other siblings' baptismal records. The death record of her "sister" Ana listed Maria Cristo in an unusual way. In Ana's will she left, "100 dollars to my sister, Mary Perry in Oakland, CA." I believe Ana thought Maria Cristo was her sister. Maria Cristo also lived with her "brother" Seraphine in several of the R.I. Census. Without the actual baptismal records, I have assumptions and actual proof of her being a member of this family, just no record of her birth. Without finding an actual baptismal (birth in that time frame) record, I still can't prove she was biologically a member of that family. Thank you for the help you are providing to me and others on the Azores List. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com ---- On Fri, 7/6/18, Nancy Couto wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, July 6, 2018, 10:14 AM Celeste, I looked up the passenger list for the Peninsular, sailing from St. Michael's 19 Feb 1904, arriving New York 1st (looks like) Mar 1904. Ancestry's indexer clearly got the nationality wrong, since the actual list shows Maria and her family as Portuguese. The family group included Seraphim Moraes, 23; Rosa C. Moraes, 24 (looks like); Rosa Barbara Moraes, 15; Luzia Moraes, 17; and Maria Moraes, 16. The family is headed for Bristol, RI, for Seraphim's cousin Joao da Costa (looks like), 368 Hope St. I hope this matches your other information. On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:38 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Boy, Cheri, I am not aware of anyone finding her baptism. Since I do not know how to use the archives, I will wait until you return home to lead me to the email you mention. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com ---------- ------ On Fri, 7/6/18, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, July 6, 2018, 1:06 AM Someone found her baptism and posted it to this list. I'm sure someone can type "elusive maria cristo" in the archives and find the former thread. :-) On Jul 5, 2018 4:41 PM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" wrote: Found her where? I will wait until you get back home and lead me through the archives to the email you mention. Thanks Cheri. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com ------------------ -- On Thu, 7/5/18, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 3:34 PM Someone found her a year or two ago. I'm not on my computer, but I'm sure you can search the archives for this list and find it. Cheri On Jul 5, 2018 11:28 AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" wrote: Thank you Elaine. Hope your flight back is better than ours. We had a delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way back. Constant seatbelt light on. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com ----- - -- On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM Celeste, I think I found this several years ago for you and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I am at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will ck more when I get home. "E" Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my search for my husb
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Use the information and search the Ellis Island website to look at the original ship manifest. You can use this link: https://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/family-history-center To search the records you need to create an account which is free. Need to go out now but perhaps I can look later Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 8:12 AM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" Celeste, In Oct/Nov of 2017 I emailed you privately the documentation for your Maria Moraes. At the time I took a temporary membership with Ancestry to search for your Maria and I'm pretty sure I found her. Ancestry shows the 16 year old Maria travelling from Saint Michael's as Puerto Rican Nationality. I'm attaching the records. On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:06 AM Cheri Mello wrote: Someone found her baptism and posted it to this list. I'm sure someone can type "elusive maria cristo" in the archives and find the former thread. :-) On Jul 5, 2018 4:41 PM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" wrote: Found her where? I will wait until you get back home and lead me through the archives to the email you mention. Thanks Cheri. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -------- On Thu, 7/5/18, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 3:34 PM Someone found her a year or two ago. I'm not on my computer, but I'm sure you can search the archives for this list and find it. Cheri On Jul 5, 2018 11:28 AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" wrote: Thank you Elaine. Hope your flight back is better than ours. We had a delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way back. Constant seatbelt light on. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com ------------------ -- On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM Celeste, I think I found this several years ago for you and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I am at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will ck more when I get home. "E" Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my search for my husband's paternal grandmother. > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, RI., the church where she was married and I saw the book where she and her husband's marriage was listed. I had received a copy of the marriage record and verified that the information was the same in the book. > I asked about her having to prove she had been baptized in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told they did not have any information about her baptism. > I was on my way back to the hotel from the church when I remembered seeing "file sent" written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found out where the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to ask for any information they might have of her baptism. I did not get past the clerk at the door. She talked to someone in the "archives" and was told they did not have such information. > When I was eating at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew any Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar and the church were he was living. I went to the church and he was not there; however, the lady in the office was most helpful. > She took my information and a copy of the marriage record I had with me. The next day, I received a call from the church office lady and she said father Escobar had contacted the diocese office and was told the archives did not have any records for which I was searching. > So, I am back to square one. Someone on the list told me that proof of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was born in another church. Since Maria Cristo's siblings were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, that would have been the place of her baptism. > As I have said before, I looked at all the baptism records from the time her older brother was baptized until her father died. I found no record for her birth. > Below is the information I have send to the list a few years ago for anyone who is new to the list and may have information about my "Elusive
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Boy, Cheri, I am not aware of anyone finding her baptism. Since I do not know how to use the archives, I will wait until you return home to lead me to the email you mention. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 7/6/18, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, July 6, 2018, 1:06 AM Someone found her baptism and posted it to this list. I'm sure someone can type "elusive maria cristo" in the archives and find the former thread. :-) On Jul 5, 2018 4:41 PM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" wrote: Found her where? I will wait until you get back home and lead me through the archives to the email you mention. Thanks Cheri. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- -- On Thu, 7/5/18, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 3:34 PM Someone found her a year or two ago. I'm not on my computer, but I'm sure you can search the archives for this list and find it. Cheri On Jul 5, 2018 11:28 AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" wrote: Thank you Elaine. Hope your flight back is better than ours. We had a delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way back. Constant seatbelt light on. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com ---------- ---------- On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM Celeste, I think I found this several years ago for you and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I am at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will ck more when I get home. "E" Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my search for my husband's paternal grandmother. > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, RI., the church where she was married and I saw the book where she and her husband's marriage was listed. I had received a copy of the marriage record and verified that the information was the same in the book. > I asked about her having to prove she had been baptized in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told they did not have any information about her baptism. > I was on my way back to the hotel from the church when I remembered seeing "file sent" written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found out where the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to ask for any information they might have of her baptism. I did not get past the clerk at the door. She talked to someone in the "archives" and was told they did not have such information. > When I was eating at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew any Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar and the church were he was living. I went to the church and he was not there; however, the lady in the office was most helpful. > She took my information and a copy of the marriage record I had with me. The next day, I received a call from the church office lady and she said father Escobar had contacted the diocese office and was told the archives did not have any records for which I was searching. > So, I am back to square one. Someone on the list told me that proof of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was born in another church. Since Maria Cristo's siblings were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, that would have been the place of her baptism. > As I have said before, I looked at all the baptism records from the time her older brother was baptized until her father died. I found no record for her birth. > Below is the information I have send to the list a few years ago for anyone who is new to the list and m
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Someone found her baptism and posted it to this list. I'm sure someone can type "elusive maria cristo" in the archives and find the former thread. :-) On Jul 5, 2018 4:41 PM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Found her where? I will wait until you get back home and lead me through > the archives to the email you mention. Thanks Cheri. > Celeste > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -------- > On Thu, 7/5/18, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 3:34 PM > > Someone found her a year or two > ago. I'm not on my computer, but I'm sure you can > search the archives for this list and find it. > Cheri > On Jul 5, 2018 11:28 > AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" > > wrote: > Thank > you Elaine. Hope your flight back is better than ours. > We had a delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way > back. Constant seatbelt light on. > > Celeste > > > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > > -- -- > > On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria > Cristo" > > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM > > > > Celeste, > > > > I think I found this several years ago for you > > and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I > am > > at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will > ck > > more when I get home. > > > > "E" > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste > > perry' via Azores Genealogy > > wrote: > > > > > > I have > > just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my > > search for my husband's paternal grandmother. > > > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, > > RI., the church where she was married and I saw the > book > > where she and her husband's marriage was listed. > I > > had received a copy of the marriage record and verified > that > > the information was the same in the book. > > > I asked about her having to prove she > > had been baptized in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told > they > > did not have any information about her baptism. > > > I was on my way back to the hotel from > > the church when I remembered seeing "file sent" > > written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found > out > > where the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to > ask > > for any information they might have of her baptism. I > did > > not get past the clerk at the door. She talked to > someone > > in the "archives" and was told they did not > have > > such information. > > > When I was eating > > at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew > any > > Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar > > and the church were he was living. I went to the church > > and he was not there; however, the lady in the office was > > most helpful. > > > She took my > > information and a copy of the marriage record I had with > > me. The next day, I received a call from the church > office > > lady and she said father Escobar had contacted the > diocese > > office and was told the archives did not have any records > > for which I was searching. > > > So, I am > > back to square one. Someone on the list told me that > proof > > of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was > > born in another church. Since Maria Cristo's > siblings > > were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, > Azores, > > that would have been the place of her baptism. > > > As I have said before, I looked at all > > the baptism records from the time her older brother was > > baptized until her father died. I found no record for > her > > birth. > > > Below is the information I > > have send to the list a few years ago for anyone who is > new > > to the list and may have information about my > "Elusive > > Maria Cristo." > > > 1. Her > > name: > > > In 2006, I received an em
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Found her where? I will wait until you get back home and lead me through the archives to the email you mention. Thanks Cheri. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Thu, 7/5/18, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 3:34 PM Someone found her a year or two ago. I'm not on my computer, but I'm sure you can search the archives for this list and find it. Cheri On Jul 5, 2018 11:28 AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" wrote: Thank you Elaine. Hope your flight back is better than ours. We had a delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way back. Constant seatbelt light on. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- -- On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM Celeste, I think I found this several years ago for you and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I am at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will ck more when I get home. "E" Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my search for my husband's paternal grandmother. > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, RI., the church where she was married and I saw the book where she and her husband's marriage was listed. I had received a copy of the marriage record and verified that the information was the same in the book. > I asked about her having to prove she had been baptized in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told they did not have any information about her baptism. > I was on my way back to the hotel from the church when I remembered seeing "file sent" written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found out where the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to ask for any information they might have of her baptism. I did not get past the clerk at the door. She talked to someone in the "archives" and was told they did not have such information. > When I was eating at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew any Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar and the church were he was living. I went to the church and he was not there; however, the lady in the office was most helpful. > She took my information and a copy of the marriage record I had with me. The next day, I received a call from the church office lady and she said father Escobar had contacted the diocese office and was told the archives did not have any records for which I was searching. > So, I am back to square one. Someone on the list told me that proof of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was born in another church. Since Maria Cristo's siblings were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, that would have been the place of her baptism. > As I have said before, I looked at all the baptism records from the time her older brother was baptized until her father died. I found no record for her birth. > Below is the information I have send to the list a few years ago for anyone who is new to the list and may have information about my "Elusive Maria Cristo." > 1. Her name: > In 2006, I received an email from a great-grandson of MC’s brother Jose. He wrote “on Ancestry.com I found Maria Cristo immigrated July 31, 1909.”I found an arrival of “Maria Moraes arriving July 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth yr. 1884, F, Portuguese, port of departure: St. michaels, Az, Portugal; ship name, Cretic; arriving at Boston, MA; last residence, Azores, birthplace, St. Barbara, Azores.” I received this information from someone and I never saw the name of the person she was going to. I think she would have come to her brother, Seraphine who immigrated 10/24/1904 and I have found his name as: Serafim Morais/Morris/Moraes in different census. > On her marriage record: 11/27/09 she is: Maria de Christ Moraes > 2. DOB, where??? : May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, (oral history told to me by her daughter) > She married in 1909 and said she was 22 years old (I have the marriage record from St. Mary’s church in Bristol, RI.) > 3. Father: Joao M
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Celeste.wish I knew you were here we could have gotten together. I’m in Newport for a couple of weeks. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my search for > my husband's paternal grandmother. > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, RI., the church where she was married and > I saw the book where she and her husband's marriage was listed. I had > received a copy of the marriage record and verified that the information was > the same in the book. > I asked about her having to prove she had been baptized in Sao Miguel, > Azores and I was told they did not have any information about her baptism. > I was on my way back to the hotel from the church when I remembered seeing > "file sent" written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found out where > the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to ask for any information > they might have of her baptism. I did not get past the clerk at the door. > She talked to someone in the "archives" and was told they did not have such > information. > When I was eating at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew > any Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar and the church > were he was living. I went to the church and he was not there; however, the > lady in the office was most helpful. > She took my information and a copy of the marriage record I had with me. > The next day, I received a call from the church office lady and she said > father Escobar had contacted the diocese office and was told the archives did > not have any records for which I was searching. > So, I am back to square one. Someone on the list told me that proof of > baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was born in another > church. Since Maria Cristo's siblings were all born in Lomba da Santa > Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, that would have been the place of her baptism. > As I have said before, I looked at all the baptism records from the time > her older brother was baptized until her father died. I found no record for > her birth. > Below is the information I have send to the list a few years ago for anyone > who is new to the list and may have information about my "Elusive Maria > Cristo." > 1. Her name: > In 2006, I received an email from a great-grandson of MC’s brother Jose. He > wrote “on Ancestry.com I found Maria Cristo immigrated July 31, 1909.”I found > an arrival of “Maria Moraes arriving July 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth yr. > 1884, F, Portuguese, port of departure: St. michaels, Az, Portugal; ship > name, Cretic; arriving at Boston, MA; last residence, Azores, birthplace, St. > Barbara, Azores.” I received this information from someone and I never saw > the name of the person she was going to. I think she would have come to her > brother, Seraphine who immigrated 10/24/1904 and I have found his name as: > Serafim Morais/Morris/Moraes in different census. > On her marriage record: 11/27/09 she is: Maria de Christ Moraes > 2. DOB, where??? : May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, > Azores, (oral history told to me by her daughter) > She married in 1909 and said she was 22 years old (I have the marriage record > from St. Mary’s church in Bristol, RI.) > 3.Father: Joao Moraes, he died 4/13/1899, I found his death record in > 2006. > 4.Mother: Jacinta Libianna > 5.When did she come to US: I think she came to the US to her brother, > Seraphine Moraes. This is what her daughter told me. It had to have been > before Nov. 1909 when she married. > 6.In the 1910 census Fellippe E. & Mary C. Silva, are living with > seraphim & Rosa Morais at 15 East Brooks. St. in Bristol, RI she lived on > Estbrook St. with her husband, Fillippe Silva. She was listed as Maria C. > Silva who immigrated in 1909. > 1927-1928, 1929-1930/ 1935-1936; 1937 census, Phillip & Mry Perry, carpenter, > live at 66 Blossom St. > 1938; 1939, 43, 66 Blossom St. per City directory > 1947 moved to Oakland, CA > 7.In 2005, at the Oakland FHCC, I found a Maria Moraes arriving > 7/31/1909, age 25, est. yob 1884, F, Portuguese; departed: S.Miguel; ship’s > name is Crotic; arrived in Boston, MA > 8.She was 24 years old when her daughter Mary was born in 1911. > > Thank you for any help you can give me. > Celeste > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores
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Someone found her a year or two ago. I'm not on my computer, but I'm sure you can search the archives for this list and find it. Cheri On Jul 5, 2018 11:28 AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Thank you Elaine. Hope your flight back is better than ours. We had a > delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way back. Constant seatbelt > light on. > Celeste > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -------- > On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM > > Celeste, > > I think I found this several years ago for you > and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I am > at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will ck > more when I get home. > > "E" > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste > perry' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > > > I have > just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my > search for my husband's paternal grandmother. > > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, > RI., the church where she was married and I saw the book > where she and her husband's marriage was listed. I > had received a copy of the marriage record and verified that > the information was the same in the book. > > I asked about her having to prove she > had been baptized in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told they > did not have any information about her baptism. > > I was on my way back to the hotel from > the church when I remembered seeing "file sent" > written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found out > where the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to ask > for any information they might have of her baptism. I did > not get past the clerk at the door. She talked to someone > in the "archives" and was told they did not have > such information. > > When I was eating > at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew any > Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar > and the church were he was living. I went to the church > and he was not there; however, the lady in the office was > most helpful. > > She took my > information and a copy of the marriage record I had with > me. The next day, I received a call from the church office > lady and she said father Escobar had contacted the diocese > office and was told the archives did not have any records > for which I was searching. > > So, I am > back to square one. Someone on the list told me that proof > of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was > born in another church. Since Maria Cristo's siblings > were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, > that would have been the place of her baptism. > > As I have said before, I looked at all > the baptism records from the time her older brother was > baptized until her father died. I found no record for her > birth. > > Below is the information I > have send to the list a few years ago for anyone who is new > to the list and may have information about my "Elusive > Maria Cristo." > > 1. Her > name: > > In 2006, I received an email > from a great-grandson of MC’s brother Jose. He wrote > “on Ancestry.com I found Maria Cristo immigrated July 31, > 1909.”I found an arrival of “Maria Moraes arriving July > 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth yr. 1884, F, Portuguese, port > of departure: St. michaels, Az, Portugal; ship name, Cretic; > arriving at Boston, MA; last residence, Azores, birthplace, > St. Barbara, Azores.” I received this information from > someone and I never saw the name of the person she was going > to. I think she would have come to her brother, Seraphine > who immigrated 10/24/1904 and I have found his name as: > Serafim Morais/Morris/Moraes in different census. > > On her marriage record: 11/27/09 she is: > Maria de Christ Moraes > > 2. DOB, > where??? : May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao > Miguel, Azores, (oral history told to me by her daughter) > > She married in 1909 and said she was 22 > years old (I have the marriage record from St. Mary’s > church in Bristol, RI.) > > 3. > Father: Joao Moraes, he died 4/13/1899, I found his death > record in 2006. > > 4.Mother: Jacinta > Libianna > > 5.When did she come to > US: I think she came to the US to her brother, Seraphine > Moraes.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Thank you Elaine. Hope your flight back is better than ours. We had a delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way back. Constant seatbelt light on. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo" To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM Celeste, I think I found this several years ago for you and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I am at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will ck more when I get home. "E" Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my search for my husband's paternal grandmother. > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, RI., the church where she was married and I saw the book where she and her husband's marriage was listed. I had received a copy of the marriage record and verified that the information was the same in the book. > I asked about her having to prove she had been baptized in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told they did not have any information about her baptism. > I was on my way back to the hotel from the church when I remembered seeing "file sent" written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found out where the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to ask for any information they might have of her baptism. I did not get past the clerk at the door. She talked to someone in the "archives" and was told they did not have such information. > When I was eating at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew any Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar and the church were he was living. I went to the church and he was not there; however, the lady in the office was most helpful. > She took my information and a copy of the marriage record I had with me. The next day, I received a call from the church office lady and she said father Escobar had contacted the diocese office and was told the archives did not have any records for which I was searching. > So, I am back to square one. Someone on the list told me that proof of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was born in another church. Since Maria Cristo's siblings were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, that would have been the place of her baptism. > As I have said before, I looked at all the baptism records from the time her older brother was baptized until her father died. I found no record for her birth. > Below is the information I have send to the list a few years ago for anyone who is new to the list and may have information about my "Elusive Maria Cristo." > 1. Her name: > In 2006, I received an email from a great-grandson of MC’s brother Jose. He wrote “on Ancestry.com I found Maria Cristo immigrated July 31, 1909.”I found an arrival of “Maria Moraes arriving July 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth yr. 1884, F, Portuguese, port of departure: St. michaels, Az, Portugal; ship name, Cretic; arriving at Boston, MA; last residence, Azores, birthplace, St. Barbara, Azores.” I received this information from someone and I never saw the name of the person she was going to. I think she would have come to her brother, Seraphine who immigrated 10/24/1904 and I have found his name as: Serafim Morais/Morris/Moraes in different census. > On her marriage record: 11/27/09 she is: Maria de Christ Moraes > 2. DOB, where??? : May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, (oral history told to me by her daughter) > She married in 1909 and said she was 22 years old (I have the marriage record from St. Mary’s church in Bristol, RI.) > 3. Father: Joao Moraes, he died 4/13/1899, I found his death record in 2006. > 4. Mother: Jacinta Libianna > 5. When did she come to US: I think she came to the US to her brother, Seraphine Moraes. This is what her daughter told me. It had to have been before Nov. 1909 when she married. > 6. In the 1910 census Fellippe E. & Mary C. Silva, are living with seraphim & Rosa Morais at 15 East Brooks. St. in Bristol, RI she lived on Estbrook St. with her husband, Fillippe Silva. She was listed as Maria C. Silva who immigrated in 1909. > 1927-1928, 1929-1930/ 1935-1936; 1937 census, Phillip & Mry Perry, carpenter, live at 66 Blossom St. > 1938; 1939, 43, 66 Blossom St. per City directory > 1947 moved to Oakland, CA > 7. In 2005, at the Oakland FHCC, I found a Maria Moraes arriving 7/31/1909, age 25, est. yob 1884, F, Portuguese; departed: S.Miguel; ship’s name is Crotic; arrived in Boston, MA >
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
Celeste, I think I found this several years ago for you and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine. I am at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA. Will ck more when I get home. "E" Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my search for > my husband's paternal grandmother. > I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, RI., the church where she was married and > I saw the book where she and her husband's marriage was listed. I had > received a copy of the marriage record and verified that the information was > the same in the book. > I asked about her having to prove she had been baptized in Sao Miguel, > Azores and I was told they did not have any information about her baptism. > I was on my way back to the hotel from the church when I remembered seeing > "file sent" written at the bottom of her marriage entry. I found out where > the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to ask for any information > they might have of her baptism. I did not get past the clerk at the door. > She talked to someone in the "archives" and was told they did not have such > information. > When I was eating at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew > any Portuguese priest. He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar and the church > were he was living. I went to the church and he was not there; however, the > lady in the office was most helpful. > She took my information and a copy of the marriage record I had with me. > The next day, I received a call from the church office lady and she said > father Escobar had contacted the diocese office and was told the archives did > not have any records for which I was searching. > So, I am back to square one. Someone on the list told me that proof of > baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was born in another > church. Since Maria Cristo's siblings were all born in Lomba da Santa > Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, that would have been the place of her baptism. > As I have said before, I looked at all the baptism records from the time > her older brother was baptized until her father died. I found no record for > her birth. > Below is the information I have send to the list a few years ago for anyone > who is new to the list and may have information about my "Elusive Maria > Cristo." > 1. Her name: > In 2006, I received an email from a great-grandson of MC’s brother Jose. He > wrote “on Ancestry.com I found Maria Cristo immigrated July 31, 1909.”I found > an arrival of “Maria Moraes arriving July 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth yr. > 1884, F, Portuguese, port of departure: St. michaels, Az, Portugal; ship > name, Cretic; arriving at Boston, MA; last residence, Azores, birthplace, St. > Barbara, Azores.” I received this information from someone and I never saw > the name of the person she was going to. I think she would have come to her > brother, Seraphine who immigrated 10/24/1904 and I have found his name as: > Serafim Morais/Morris/Moraes in different census. > On her marriage record: 11/27/09 she is: Maria de Christ Moraes > 2. DOB, where??? : May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, > Azores, (oral history told to me by her daughter) > She married in 1909 and said she was 22 years old (I have the marriage record > from St. Mary’s church in Bristol, RI.) > 3.Father: Joao Moraes, he died 4/13/1899, I found his death record in > 2006. > 4.Mother: Jacinta Libianna > 5.When did she come to US: I think she came to the US to her brother, > Seraphine Moraes. This is what her daughter told me. It had to have been > before Nov. 1909 when she married. > 6.In the 1910 census Fellippe E. & Mary C. Silva, are living with > seraphim & Rosa Morais at 15 East Brooks. St. in Bristol, RI she lived on > Estbrook St. with her husband, Fillippe Silva. She was listed as Maria C. > Silva who immigrated in 1909. > 1927-1928, 1929-1930/ 1935-1936; 1937 census, Phillip & Mry Perry, carpenter, > live at 66 Blossom St. > 1938; 1939, 43, 66 Blossom St. per City directory > 1947 moved to Oakland, CA > 7.In 2005, at the Oakland FHCC, I found a Maria Moraes arriving > 7/31/1909, age 25, est. yob 1884, F, Portuguese; departed: S.Miguel; ship’s > name is Crotic; arrived in Boston, MA > 8.She was 24 years old when her daughter Mary was born in 1911. > > Thank you for any help you can give me. > Celeste > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealog
